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Postby Sabre » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:38 pm

Computer stuff explained in rough english:

No, it hasn't to do with the cache, normally. The CPU is the one that processes, the RAM memory is the guy that holds the info that the CPU uses at some point, and the Hard Disk is the guy who holds the info permanently, as the RAM erases itself when the computer is off. The way between the CPU and RAM is expensive in time, and the cache is some sort of little ram that is close to the CPU. The most used things are left there to avoid to do al the way to the RAM, it's efficient.

Programs like defrag, solve fragmentation problems of the latter, the hard disk. Fragmentation problem is worst when out of 100 bits of Info, 90  occupied, and 10 are free. You have to place now 5 bits, but that 10 free bits are scattered, and there are not 5 in a row. So to place and later read that 5 bits, you have to jump to get the info, and that's slower.

In the RAM memory, you have the same problem. As time passes, you load things into the RAM which gets full. To make things worse this OS like Windows are not efficient, and after using the info, it doesn't bother to clean it. So the more time passes, the more degenerated a system is, inevitably.

This is just one of the houndred of reasons that can make a computer slower. Then you have a suspicious little program that loads in your favourite pórn site (which are crowded with those little programs), your protection software asks the program, who are you?, the little program answers whatever gibberish, the protection software asks again who are you again and again and you have a block. This is one of the million things that make that window not responding, and is so frustrating :D

So that's why knowing all this is useless woof :D, you cannot do much about it just use cleaning programs to make the effects smaller (you'll never be able to keep the computer like the first day)

So you can live perfectly with a beer, the basic cleaning programs, and the turn off and on tactic. Also note that those websites with ring tones, tits, naked women etc, are loaded of these little bugger programs.
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Postby Bad Bob » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:55 pm

Sabre wrote:Also note that those websites with ring tones, tits, naked women etc, are loaded of these little bugger programs.

Loads of tits on here, Sabs, so I suppose Newkit is fecking our computers up big style? ??? :D
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Postby red37 » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:32 pm

Sabre. You appear to be as good as they come to answer this question.

In Task Manager, when you see a big list of resources taking up memory useage...

Which are able to be safely turned off during a session. For example i do a lot of music composition via cubase sx/reason 4/recycle etc... and those programs demand that applications are disabled during work. Obviously things like winamp/anti-virus and the like are easily disconnected. But there are literally 10's of other applications running that i dare not/perhaps don't need to? touch. That im sure would give me some extra juice.

Here is a typical example as of now. (there are another 11 further down the list that i couldn't fit on screen)

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Postby woof woof ! » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:09 pm

So that's why knowing all this is useless woof :D
.........you can live perfectly with a beer, the basic cleaning programs, and the turn off and on tactic. Also note that those websites with ring tones, tits, naked women etc, are loaded of these little bugger programs.


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Postby anfieldadorer » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:22 pm

woof woof ! wrote:I've also found that although google works well for me , since I started using firefox it's often slow to load.   :(

in my experience, some add ons attached with firefox sometimes somehow got crashed, mate. this abnormal add ons would slow the initializing process. since FF is free, why not try uninstall it and then install a fresh one, probably the latest version.
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Postby Toffeehater » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:31 pm

LOL , i need a new movie website to watch online movies cos movieforumz.com closed down , anyone got any website where i can watch , prefarbly download movies for free?
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Postby Sabre » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:55 pm

red37 wrote:Sabre. You appear to be as good as they come to answer this question.

In Task Manager, when you see a big list of resources taking up memory useage...

Which are able to be safely turned off during a session. For example i do a lot of music composition via cubase sx/reason 4/recycle etc... and those programs demand that applications are disabled during work. Obviously things like winamp/anti-virus and the like are easily disconnected. But there are literally 10's of other applications running that i dare not/perhaps don't need to? touch. That im sure would give me some extra juice.

Here is a typical example as of now. (there are another 11 further down the list that i couldn't fit on screen)

Task Manager

LOL @ Bad Bob and Woof.


Red, Your task manager is clean enough for a normal user.

First off, it's better to not load unnecessary things on the first place, rather than killing a process once loaded, because as I've explained earlier even after using it, the memory is not defragged properly. Plus, the start of the system will be smoother.

Second, note that the worst thing you'll get by killing processes is to lose your session and having to reboot, or losing a running app, no end of the world because killing processes, many of them is to get those tiny icons in the lower right corner, which are "quick loaders" and unnecessary. If really critical, a process won't be allowed to be killed, so fear not.


Among the ones owned by "user", rundll32 is necessary to run many programas, iexplore is the one of your webbrowser (it consumes a lot of memory as you can see, if you have an app running, do not have Internet explorer or firefox open), and the one that will fúck your session is explorer, if you kill it. Do not kill scvhosts.exe neither.

Most of the "notifiers", "monitors", and processes ending in tray or having "updater" on it, are perfectly erasable. Even the better, go to the, START green menu, select run, and type in "msconfig". It's a little app that will allow you to choose which of those programs you want to load at the beginning in the "start" tab.

That aawservice you have is a nasty process of Ad Aware 2007, sometimes it's more of a problem than the spyware itself, as it examines every file you use. I do not like using this permanent protection software unless visiting strange websites.

Fiddle without fear, you won't break anything forever.

For further tweaking, consider to download and install one of those XP versions that are optimised for full performance -- the standard XP loads services and programs to manage strange networks and devices you won't use never so it's unefficient.

In the msconfig app you can select aswell which services you want to load at the beginning, but it requires a bit of study to tell you which ones you can delete at once, that's why perhaps it's better to try out one of those already tweaked XP versions, I have a friend running smoothly XP with a 128Mb memory machine! which is quite of an achievement.
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:28 pm

I agree with you Sabre about Ad -aware, I used to use it for years and it was great, but its more trouble than its worth now.

If you are a bit wary of using msconfig Red, Spybot search and destroy as a good tool for Task manager. It tells you which proccesses are required and which you can safely close or prevent from starting in the first place. Maybe worth trying mate. Its also a good spyware/malware detector.

Woof I have pm'd you mate.
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:01 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Sabre wrote:Also note that those websites with ring tones, tits, naked women etc, are loaded of these little bugger programs.

Loads of tits on here, Sabs, so I suppose Newkit is fecking our computers up big style? ??? :D

speaking from experience aye?  :p
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Postby anfieldadorer » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:34 pm

Toffeehater wrote:LOL , i need a new movie website to watch online movies cos movieforumz.com closed down , anyone got any website where i can watch , prefarbly download movies for free?

dawson best knows


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Postby red37 » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:03 pm

Thanks lads.

I'll have a look at that spybot saint as well.
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Postby woof woof ! » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:11 pm

anfieldadorer wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:I've also found that although google works well for me , since I started using firefox it's often slow to load.   :(

in my experience, some add ons attached with firefox sometimes somehow got crashed, mate. this abnormal add ons would slow the initializing process. since FF is free, why not try uninstall it and then install a fresh one, probably the latest version.

Thanks Anni, think I'll do that, I've kept adding the updated versions as they came out but maybe a clean install will be better as currently the initializing process is pretty slow.
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Postby woof woof ! » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:13 pm

Toffeehater wrote:LOL , i need a new movie website to watch online movies cos movieforumz.com closed down , anyone got any website where i can watch , prefarbly download movies for free?

Google " Isohunt " TH, I get all most of my movies via them.
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Postby Toffeehater » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:41 am

anfieldadorer wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:LOL , i need a new movie website to watch online movies cos movieforumz.com closed down , anyone got any website where i can watch , prefarbly download movies for free?

dawson best knows


:sniffle  :down:

Do you want me to get murdered ? He all against this kind of things
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Postby Toffeehater » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:43 am

woof woof ! wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:LOL , i need a new movie website to watch online movies cos movieforumz.com closed down , anyone got any website where i can watch , prefarbly download movies for free?

Google " Isohunt " TH, I get all most of my movies via them.

cheers wolf but aren't torrents pretty slow , what do you use utorrent? bit torrent?
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