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by **Thingy** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:08 pm

Dont know weather theres a thread on this but I thought id be good to have one . Love horse racing as im sure alot of you do. Whos going? What are you backing? Im going for Comply Or Die or Cloudy Lane.

by **red37** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:25 pm

Good idea mate. Get a list of all the runners and riders up for the lads can you? While i go and dig up me betfair account

by **destro** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:36 pm

Runners and Odds

Heres a list of the Runners for The Grand National tomorrow.

Mon Mome is my tip each way :;):

by **Thingy** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:47 pm

1. Hedgehunter - Ruby Walsh
2. Hi Cloy - Tom Doyle
3. Knowhere - Joe Tizzard
4. Mr Pointment - Sam Thomas
5. Turko - Richard Johnson
6. Madison Du Berlais -Tom Scadamore
7. Simon - Dominic Elsworth
8. Opera Mundi - Liam Heard
9. Iron Man - Christian Williams
10. Fundamentalist -Paddy Brennan
11. Butler’s Cabin - Tony Mccoy
12. Slim Pickings - Barry Geraghty
13. Chelsea Harbour - Davy Russell
14. Vodka Bleu - Paul Maloney
15. L’Ami - Mick Fitzgerald
16. Snowy Morning - David Casey
17. Bewleys Berry - Denis O'Regan
18. Contraband - Keith Mercer
19. Mckelvey - Tom O'Brien
20. Joaaci - Johnny Farrelly
21. Point Barrow - Tony Dobbin
22. D’Argent - Robert Thornton
23. No Full - Shay Barry
24. Baily Breeze -Paddy Flood
25. Bob Hall - Noel Fehily
26. Cloudy Lane -Jason Maguire
27. King Johns Castle - Paul Carberry
28. Mon Mome -Aidan Coleman
29. Cornish Sett -Nick Schofield
30. Naunton Brook -David England
31. Tumbling Dice - Tom Ryan
32. Backbeat - Wilson Renwick
33. Comply or Die -Timmy Murphy
34. Idle Talk - Brain Harding
35. Kelami -Barry Keniry
36. Milan Deux Mille - Tom Malone
37. Nadover - Robbie Power
38. Black Apalachi -Andrew Mcnamara
39. Philson Run -Daryl Jacob
40. Dun Doire -Richard Mcgrath
R1 Ardaghey
R2 Joes Edge
R3 In The High Grass
R4 Ossmoses

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:12 pm

Im going for Snowy Morning

With Hedgehunter each way

by **Thingy** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:13 pm

Sorry Destro mate I didnt see you had posted them.

by **destro** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:17 pm

Thingy wrote:Sorry Destro mate I didnt see you had posted them.

No worries

The Grand National is a lottery anyway so really ANY nag can win it, the better Cheltenham horses haven't been doing to well so far because all their time and training was used for Cheltenham, so get your money on an outsider each way....you never know :;):

by **daxy1** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:23 pm

im going hedgehunter with simon eachway!

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:33 pm

I've gone for Knowhere with backbeat each way. (that's without seeing any odds up to now)

Only horse race I follow.

by **Thingy** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:55 pm

Knowhere, the clues in the name

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:09 pm

well it's usually where my horses come in the national thingy, so it's quite fitting for me :laugh:

by **stmichael** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:00 am

i'm going with slim pickings

by **Kharhaz** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:08 am

I dont do national I see my bum years ago with my missus because she never put a sure fire bet on for me.

I was working at laceby, in a pub, and one guy there, a regular customer, a fireman, left his wallet back at home so rather than have him go all the way home I sorted his tab out and let him pay me back. Sure enough the next day he came back to the pub and paid me. Thankfull for what I did he said "Listen, you helped me out so i'll sort you out, dead cert stick a load of money on Earth Summit."

Now I was working all day so I gave me missus a ring, told her that whatever money she had stick it on Earth Summit to win. She said "i'll see". Sure enough it won that year, and when I got home she never bet a penny ! I still feel sick today, and so never bet since ! Whenever she mentions it I get the hump and remind her of the dead cert ! :angry:

by **Owzat** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:17 am

L'Ami, Butler's Cabin and Turko were the three I tipped. I have a soft spot for Slim Pickings though, must have overlooked his name in the running originally

by **NiftyNeil** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:20 am

For what it's worth, here's Nifty's unofficial guide to picking a Grand National winner:

It's basically a process of elimination based on previous winners and statistics.

In the last 20 Grand Nationals, only 3 winners have been at odds of over 30-1 so eliminate these horses.

This leaves a field of 17 consisiting of:

Cloudy Lane; Comply or Die; Simon; Slim Pickings; Bewleys Bay; Chelsea Harbour; Butlers Cabin; King Johns Cabin; Snowy Morning; Hedgehunter; Mr Pointment; Dun Doire; D'Argent; McKelvey; Mon Mome; Philsons Run; Point Barrow.

In the last 20 years, only 2 horses have won carrying over 11 stone, so eliminate these.

This should leave a field of 9:

Cloudy Lane; Comply or Die; King Johns Castle, Bewley's Berry; Dun Doire; D'Argent; Mon Mome; Philsons Run; Point Barrow.

While only three favourites have won the National in the last 20 years, it could be a wise move to eliminate Cloudy Bay from the reckoning leaving a field of 8 horses to choose from.

This is the system I have used for a number of years and it usually serves me well, although Hedgehunter and Silver Birch have caught me out recently.

From that final pool of runners, I'm tending towards Comply of Die, Bewleys Bay, King Johns Castle and maybe D'Argent.

Since I have already have Comply or Die in a sweep, my pick of the day will be King Johns Castle - especially with the race being in Liverpool and King John being synonymus with the City's birth. Saying that, only two grey horses have ever won the Grand National.

Good luck everybody.

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