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by **ConnO'var** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:39 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
red37 wrote:"Painfully.....long....posts".

As opposed to what, not bothering at all perhaps On a Forum of all places? sarcasm attached

It couldn't happen, could it.....so many questions, so much moral high ground to conquer first you see. Yet, so little motivation - the byproduct of such indifference (sighs). Pretty soon, there will be no bugger left making any effort whatsoever. Keep ringing the Division Bell. The 'wayward and the maverick' elements which go towards enhancing the experience will dance to a different tune before the day is done.

Then the conformity of the accepted, the perfunctory 'two-liners' and all the Billy Big Bollox' that can barely communicate beyond primitive semaphore, adept at waving their metaphoric phallic appendages in metre with the occasional utterance along the lines of 'Uggg.. Ummf.. and Blerchhh' of this world can rejoice. Redemption is nigh!....slay the wordsmiths - lock up the 'Tellers of tales' and those who can ....spell! Good work! (I refer to my previous 'struckthrough') should there be any doubt. No, really.

Though, hang on a cotton pickin' minute............(ahh f*ck it) its too painful to myther with.

wow... that sounded like a shakespeare play... btw what does "myther" mean? I looked up on dictionary.com but it's not there.

yeah its a good read. do u happen to have an interest in literature?

Understatement mate...... dig up some of his older posts before he started to post less.... The man definitely knows his way around a thesaurus!

You should post more often again red37...... Well needed methinks.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:47 pm

this has gone from Kuyt, to mick not posting enough, to redblood and kazza having a slanging match, to red37 being tipped as the next shakesphere, to Con being up Red's :censored:

because he's a moderator :laugh:

(sorry con, couldn't resist it lad)

I'll go back to Mick's post about Kuyt being worth 2-3 million, I think that's a fair assumption Mick, but not for Wigan or Bolton. I just can't see Kuyt staying in England. I think he'll move back to Holland or Germany. I just don't think he's got it in him to cut it in England not even for a mickey mouse side. Also I'd rather see the lad doing well because he's ran his socks off and his attitude is as good as any at the club, so I think moving back home would be best for him and his career. European football, international football (again) and trophies, he won't get that at Bolton/Wigan. So to thank him for the works he's done at Liverpool we should look to sell him to a decent side in Holland.

by **ConnO'var** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:50 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Con being up Red's because he's a moderator (sorry con, couldn't resist it lad)

Cheeky git! :laugh:

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:53 pm

by **maguskwt** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:11 pm

red37 wrote:Its an intransitive verb commonly used in Northern England meaning (or at least associated with): To make an unnecessary fuss, to moan...or not wishing to venture.

In plain speak - it could easily be translated as.....I can't be ar5ed!

... nice one...

by **maguskwt** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:12 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
red37 wrote:"Painfully.....long....posts".

As opposed to what, not bothering at all perhaps On a Forum of all places? sarcasm attached

It couldn't happen, could it.....so many questions, so much moral high ground to conquer first you see. Yet, so little motivation - the byproduct of such indifference (sighs). Pretty soon, there will be no bugger left making any effort whatsoever. Keep ringing the Division Bell. The 'wayward and the maverick' elements which go towards enhancing the experience will dance to a different tune before the day is done.

Then the conformity of the accepted, the perfunctory 'two-liners' and all the Billy Big Bollox' that can barely communicate beyond primitive semaphore, adept at waving their metaphoric phallic appendages in metre with the occasional utterance along the lines of 'Uggg.. Ummf.. and Blerchhh' of this world can rejoice. Redemption is nigh!....slay the wordsmiths - lock up the 'Tellers of tales' and those who can ....spell! Good work! (I refer to my previous 'struckthrough') should there be any doubt. No, really.

Though, hang on a cotton pickin' minute............(ahh f*ck it) its too painful to myther with.

wow... that sounded like a shakespeare play... btw what does "myther" mean? I looked up on dictionary.com but it's not there.

yeah its a good read. do u happen to have an interest in literature?

not really...

by **woof woof !** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:13 pm

red37 wrote:Its an intransitive verb commonly used in Northern England meaning (or at least associated with): To make an unnecessary fuss, to moan...or not wishing to venture.

In plain speak - it could easily be translated as.....I can't be ar5ed!

a word I haven't heard for 50 odd years, I think the last time it was from me mum , as in "Stop mithirin' me or I'll friggin' swing for you !"

by **maguskwt** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:15 pm

ok now... back to kuyt... I don't think the guy deserve as much stick as ppl on here give him... but I do think he comes a bit short of liverpool's first team quality if we want to win the league... I would sell him if we get like 4 million and if we have a target for a new striker... having said that if he stays on next season... I really hope he proves his critics wrong and he does have it in him to do that...

by **bigmick** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:48 pm

red37 wrote:"Painfully.....long....posts".

As opposed to what, not bothering at all perhaps On a Forum of all places? sarcasm attached

It couldn't happen, could it.....so many questions, so much moral high ground to conquer first you see. Yet, so little motivation - the byproduct of such indifference (sighs). Pretty soon, there will be no bugger left making any effort whatsoever. Keep ringing the Division Bell. The 'wayward and the maverick' elements which go towards enhancing the experience will dance to a different tune before the day is done.

Then the conformity of the accepted, the perfunctory 'two-liners' and all the Billy Big Bollox' that can barely communicate beyond primitive semaphore, adept at waving their metaphoric phallic appendages in metre with the occasional utterance along the lines of 'Uggg.. Ummf.. and Blerchhh' of this world can rejoice. Redemption is nigh!....slay the wordsmiths - lock up the 'Tellers of tales' and those who can ....spell! Good work! (I refer to my previous 'struckthrough') should there be any doubt. No, really.

Though, hang on a cotton pickin' minute............(ahh f*ck it) its too painful to myther with.

Now you should definately post more

Given the fact that the person whose opinion that the said posts are "painfully long" freely admits to never reading them, it kind of makes me want to take his advice and go back to that style. At least that way it would mean I haven't got to field the incessant tickles down to fine leg, and I could get on with talking about football with people who also have an opinion on the subject.

This "Rafa wouldn't tell you how to make a cosmopolitan so don't tell him how to run a football team" mantra is all very well but kind of makes this place pointless really. The whole essence and point of the forum (as I've always said, if indeed there is one which there probably isn't in truth) is the swapping of opinions and thoughts about all things to do with Liverpool football club.

Anyway to re-iterate the point I made earlier and return to the subject in hand I was totally wrong about Dirk Kuyt as I thought he was going to be "a legend" after seeing him play a few times. I use the term deliberately as I'm sure that is the actual terminology I used at the time. Clearly he isn't going to be a legend, and suggesting that he is now worth only 2-3 million pounds is massively inconsistent with my original observations on him. That'd be because I was wrong then :eyebrow

It seems it's not just long posts which don't get read properly.

I don't think I was on my own to be honest but there you go. Rafa himself obviously thought Kuyt was woth 9-10 million at the time he bought him, unless he wouldn't have done it. Now I can't speak for the manager and it's just a guess of course, but I don't think he would pay the same money for him if he knew then, what he knows now.

There is one final possibility of course and that is that I can be wrong twice in different ways about the same subject. Namely that Kuyt suddently starts banging them in from all directions and I have to revise my opinion back up to the "legend" status. Is it possible? Well unlike Stu I think anythings possible, but I would certainly say it's very unlikely. He won't I shouldn't have thought achieve legendary status as a right winger that's for sure, and I think I'm just going to have to accept the fact that I was wrong in the first place. He was as I said a rank poor signing, but fortunately the manager doesn't make too many of them to be fair.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:16 pm

Your not wrong this time Mick, Kuyt is just not up to the job with a top club. His work rate is second to none , but his all round game is lacking in too many areas. I had high hopes after his first few games, but its been a steady decline in my belief in him since then. I would trade him in as a p/x as I think we will be lucky to sell him for more than a couple of million.(Maybe if wages arn't a problem, back to Holland? )

by **Effes** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:39 pm

I dont think he has a future with us anymore.

But if he was told to just stick in the box, he'd manage to put a decent tally
away in a season.

by **tubby** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:59 pm

Funny how when he came here everyone was practically wanki.ng over performance that season. Now all of a sudden hes not good enough.

by **Rockthekop** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:16 pm

Nope, Kuyt is definitely not good enough but he's not the only one. I'm getting fed up saying the same thing about several of our players every season. We are signing the wrong players time after time and you wonder why we haven't won the league in 18 years! Quality players wanted, apply within.

by **kazza** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:18 pm

I was wrong to say "painfully long" about Micks' posts, there was no need.

Kuyt while not a natural finisher has an excellent engine and attitude and I am sure many teams would want him and would pay close to what we paid. He is a coaches player and coaches are the ones choosing the team so what fans think may not be that important. His consistant workrate and positive attitude guarantee he will hit a purple patch at some point, afterall when you do things right you will get the rub of the green. I think he has had a bad year personally and professionally and I hope he turns it around. Maybe not "top four" teams but all others would play him as a starter.

Maybe if many others on the team had his workethic and attitude we would be champions. As long as a player gives 100 percent for the team he will always get my backing.

I have a feeling he will be here next year so whether or not we would get 2-3 million for him (which in my opinion is a ridiculous statement) is a mute point.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:22 pm

It's all very well him running round like a headless chicken (something I and many others praise him for) but that alone isn't good enough for any side. You don't win matches by running, you need to do something with the ball, like sticking it in the back of the net, and unfortunately Kuyt doesn't have it in him in the Premiership. So I'd rather see the lad be shipped off back to Holland, where he's proven he can score and it'd further his career. If he joined a team like Wigan, his career would just go from bad to worse.

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