Emerald Red wrote:john craig wrote:Emerald Red wrote:john craig wrote:Emerald Red wrote:john craig wrote:Emerald Red wrote:heimdall wrote:You are an absolute disgrace Emerald, are you advocating that all players should be allowed to tell the ref to F&ck off?? What kind of example is that sending youngsters to see their heroes have zero respect for authority.
I suppose you regularly tell your boss to f&ck off as well do you??
That gave me a laugh. It honestly did.
And, yeah, I've told many a ref to f*ck off. I've told my mates to f*ck off. And I'd certainly tell my boss to f*ck off too if I felt I was being hard done by.
Anyway, that's not the point. He got booked for that one. The point is, did you see him say "f*ck off" when he walked up to the ref? I didn't.
Anyway, to quote Shanks "The trouble with referee's is that they don't understand the game".
I agree.
Emerald, sorry mate but Mascherano was a stupid fu.cker today. It was obvious he was going to get a red card and it didn't matter whether he told the ref to fu.ck off or not, it's the fact that he was in the ref's face on 2 or 3 different occasions gesturing and mouthing off after he was on a booking - he lost the plot and there is no defending him.
Another point however is the fact that in the 2nd half after a dubious foul against Arbeloa was given on the edge of our box, you could clearly see Gerrard mouth the word 'fu.ck' to the ref in a tirade of abuse, yet nothing happened. My point is that the ref today was probably tolerating most verbal abuse, but as is often the case if a player makes a gesture or appears overly aggressive (like Mascherano) then they are going to get disciplined.
Most watching on tv won't have picked up on the Gerrard incident and therefore the ref will let it slide. However, he can't be seen to be allowing Mascherano to get right in his face at every decision and given the spotlight on the ref following the Cole v Spurs situation, the ref had no option but to produce the red.
Then ask yourself this. Do you think Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Ronaldo, or Terry would have been sent off for that second so called offense? I don't. I'd sooner take Benitez's word on it from the point of view of one of his own players (Babel) than anyone on this forum. From Masch's reaction, you could tell he was genuinely stunned. If he was just asking a question, to be sent off for that is wrong and an utter joke and that's a fact.
The fact Emerald, is that when you are on a booking, you don't sprint 30 yards to stick your face in the referee's to contest another player's booking when you are playing for the away side at Old Trafford. It's fu.cking suicide.
Then you're implying the referee had a bias towards United then? For me, this still doesn't justify a sending off. Not ever. Not for any player for any team.
Let's say you're the ref today. You have already booked Mascherano for what you believe to be a bad tackle and a bookable offence (we know from the replays that this was not the case). The next 2 decisions you give against the away side Mascherano is waving his arms around in protest and giving you verbals. You let it slide as he's clearly fired up for the game. Then after an incident involving another player, Mascherano sprints 30 yards and sticks his face in yours, protesting, again giving you verbals. You walk backwards but Mascherano continues to advance towards you in a threatening manner, even his team mate Alonso cannot hold him back. The crowd are against Mascherano and you have 60 thousand calling for you to book him. Mascherano still comes at you, what do you do???
I'd have called him over the first time and had a word with him. Problem solved. No need to book him and ruin the game.
the Ref had told Masch on 2 occasions to be quiet and go away....EVERYTIME he ran over, waving his hands and being a
. I agree with John Craig....Masch gave the ref little choice but to send him off.
