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by **Big Niall** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:08 pm

Owzat wrote:Well Ronaldo was "on fire" again on Wednesday, sadly not literally. There's always the allegation players like him "go missing" in big games, with some justification given the big name opponents tend to try and negate rival big name players.

He does more than score, he spends a lot of time winning free-kicks and acting like a ponce. So does he score only against weaker sides?

Ronaldo Premiership goals breakdown

Goals : 24
Games : 26

(Ronaldo has also scored 9 goals in 11 other games)

vs top four : 1 goal
vs bottom four : 7 goals

vs top half : 8 goals
vs bottom half : 16 goals

If Torres were taking our penalties and scored all that Gerrard has then he'd have three more Premiership goals. Considering the Premiership is hyped up as one of the best league, if not THE best, and yet Ronaldo is scoring freely against sides outside the top four

Ronaldo is fantastic against Bolton,Villa,Reading etc but I've never seen him really dominate a big game (i.e. another top 4 side or late stages of CL, any international tournament).

Great players like Maradonna,Zidane etc rise to the big occasion, he reminds me of Henry who never scored in a final and rarely scored in knock outs of international tournaments for France.

Rooney doesn't score much either - very overrated.

I feel confident about this one :buttrock

by **Reg** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:14 pm

redsince2001 wrote:i'm dreading them scoring first

Then we better make sure they dont.

by **The Kid Torres** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:24 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Owzat wrote:Ronaldo is fantastic against Bolton,Villa,Reading etc but I've never seen him really dominate a big game (i.e. another top 4 side or late stages of CL, any international tournament).

Great players like Maradonna,Zidane etc rise to the big occasion, he reminds me of Henry who never scored in a final and rarely scored in knock outs of international tournaments for France.

Rooney doesn't score much either - very overrated.

I feel confident about this one

I fully expect both Rooney and Ronaldo to net a brace each now. :oops:

You make a fair point, but a lot of these world-class calibre players like Ronaldo aren't anywhere near as effect in the real big games, simply because they are usually up against a world-class calibre opposition.

El Capitano Stevie G hasn't produced anything like his best display against Manchester United over the last few years if one was to be honest.

by **JoeTerp** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:39 pm

Doesn't matter if Ronaldo doesn't score against the big teams, winning the league is just as much about not drawing the :censored:

teams, and United are good enough as a team to do fairly well against the big boys anyway. If we had Ronaldo on our right wing, also meaning that United would not have him, then I think we would be top the league right now.

by **Big Niall** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:49 pm

I wasn't saying I wouldn't want him at LFC, you are right the league is number 1, and players like him are great for that.

I'm just saying I have no fear of him for Sunday.

by **66-1112520797** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:53 pm

my point proven........he's an overrated, arrogant, portugese .

The one thing you got wrong there was "overated" and that as the most important thing. I couldnt give a feck who he plays for TBH, but I am able to still give credit where its due, he is a very good player almost as good as Torres and Gerrard.

Overated players arent of your Ronaldo ilk, read these boards and you'll see a few of our own posters who overate some of our players to the level of mind boggling.

by **zarababe** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:38 pm

Feel confident - we won't lose this won it'll either be a draw or we'll sneak it - 1-0 to us or a draw.

by **tubby** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:52 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:
Owzat wrote:Well Ronaldo was "on fire" again on Wednesday, sadly not literally. There's always the allegation players like him "go missing" in big games, with some justification given the big name opponents tend to try and negate rival big name players.

He does more than score, he spends a lot of time winning free-kicks and acting like a ponce. So does he score only against weaker sides?

Ronaldo Premiership goals breakdown

Goals : 24
Games : 26

(Ronaldo has also scored 9 goals in 11 other games)

vs top four : 1 goal
vs bottom four : 7 goals

vs top half : 8 goals
vs bottom half : 16 goals

If Torres were taking our penalties and scored all that Gerrard has then he'd have three more Premiership goals. Considering the Premiership is hyped up as one of the best league, if not THE best, and yet Ronaldo is scoring freely against sides outside the top four

my point proven........he's an overrated, arrogant, portugese .

I'm still going for 2-1 and at least one player sent off.

Steve Bennett

I dont know about that mate. Just remember they are sitting at the top of the table where as we dont even have 4th place assured yet.

Sadley my prediction is going to be a 3-1 win for them. They are playing too good at the moment despite the slip up against Pompey. We will need luck to win this one, something in the form of a sending of for them or a penalty to us to take the lead. Thats the only way I can see us taking anything away from this one.

by **Toffeehater** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:53 pm

Babel_fan wrote:What time will this be on Aus (Sydney) time?

unfortunately 12 am ,early monday morning

by **Magz** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:04 pm

We've got this game, book it. I had a dream last night with Torres scoring the winner then running up to me and.... ok you guys don't need to know that part.

by **Big Niall** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:12 pm

I hope you're female

by **Magz** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:25 pm

Nope lol.Married as well.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:50 pm

The Kid Torres wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
Owzat wrote:Ronaldo is fantastic against Bolton,Villa,Reading etc but I've never seen him really dominate a big game (i.e. another top 4 side or late stages of CL, any international tournament).

Great players like Maradonna,Zidane etc rise to the big occasion, he reminds me of Henry who never scored in a final and rarely scored in knock outs of international tournaments for France.

Rooney doesn't score much either - very overrated.

I feel confident about this one

I fully expect both Rooney and Ronaldo to net a brace each now.

You make a fair point, but a lot of these world-class calibre players like Ronaldo aren't anywhere near as effect in the real big games, simply because they are usually up against a world-class calibre opposition.

El Capitano Stevie G hasn't produced anything like his best display against Manchester United over the last few years if one was to be honest.

Well Peter Crouch in the last three seasons has scored against all of the top three sides. 5 goals in total. Isn't he up against the same world stars?

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:59 pm

Im just waiting on a phone call now for me ticket ive started to feel the nerves already and its 2 days away. I really think were gonna win this one though i can feel it in me water i dont care how we win it though wether the ball comes of Torres knee or Stevies ear as long as that ball goes in the back of there net thats all im ars.ed about.

by **redmikey** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:00 pm

i wouldn't say manure are playing that well at the moment as only bambi is scoring (i have to agree that you can hate the greasy tw@t but you can't call him overrated)

earlier on in the season they were getting goals from all over but it is just him getting them through games.

my biggest concern will be set plays as fergie has identified that as a weakness in our last couple of meetings and they have scraped 1-0 wins when we have been the better side

i reckon this could be a decent win for us 3-0

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