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by **bigmick** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:43 pm

Emerald Red wrote:That's some achievement for Barnsley. Just goes to show they aren't all that bad, or have massive luck. I'm loving this, because the red went out, the blue followed (by the same so called sh*t team that dumped us out). I'm wondering if any of those c*nts are laughing at us now.

It does make you wonder though doesn't it? Had we have prevailed at Home against Barnsley, we could have been staring down the gun-barrel at a very winnable Cup now with us being the only "big four" team in the semi finals. I know Tompkins hads decided that the FA Cup is of minor importance now we're out of it, but it would have been nice.

In any case fair do's to Barnsley, and on a serious note re the FA Cup, I hope the inevitable winning of the thing by a totally unheralded outfit doesn't serve to diminish the stature of the competition even more than has happened over the last decade or so. Those members of the Fa panel who allowed Man Utd to not bother defending the cup and have a mid season holiday all those years ago should hang their heads in shame.

by **Sabre** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:45 pm

nobybob wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Amazing how there just doesn't seem to be as many moaning c*nts coming out of the woodwork lately with their knives sharpened. I mean, come on - you were all Liverpool supporters, right? So where are you now? Why not come out of the woodwork when we are playing well?

Sad c*nts!

I do enjoy your art work fella but this is yet another post which perhaps shouldn't have made it past your filtering system.

Not by any means for the first time this season we are playing well and looking like a good team. We are in the midst of a run of exceedingly winnable games and we are doing the business with aplomb. All Liverpool fans are happy with that, not just your good self and it will be very interesting should we buck the trend of the last few years and get some points away at Arsenal and Man Utd to see just how close we might finish.

For the umpteenth time this season though, some people are in severe danger of getting carried away. At our best we have consistently shown we are a match for nearly everybody, it's when we lose and go on one of our extended bliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiips that problems occur.

Sorry to "leave a trail of sh!t in my wake" to quote another of your efforts after we'd won a game, but I felt it had to be said.

The point he is making is not how well we are playing! its the deafening silence from peewee and the rafa haters that is so noticable. Why have you guys gone quiet , why no praise now its due?? Come on all you negative posters you know who you are , here is your chance to post somthing positive -- come on you can do it just give it a try , you never know you might actually like it

Come on mate, this is not necessary, let's finnish the "two camps" thing. I'm love Rafa's work here, and I don't like him to be insulted, but these comments won't help either, because then we lose a game and the negativity strikes back.

Plus those comments are aimed to the ones that insult Rafa, and bigmick thinks it's aimed to him. We are all fans and definitely criticism have to exist in these boards.

Bad Bob: I got a bit wrong your first comment on Lucas, I got it now, thanks!

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:46 pm

bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:That's some achievement for Barnsley. Just goes to show they aren't all that bad, or have massive luck. I'm loving this, because the red went out, the blue followed (by the same so called sh*t team that dumped us out). I'm wondering if any of those c*nts are laughing at us now.

It does make you wonder though doesn't it? Had we have prevailed at Home against Barnsley, we could have been staring down the gun-barrel at a very winnable Cup now with us being the only "big four" team in the semi finals. I know Tompkins hads decided that the FA Cup is of minor importance now we're out of it, but it would have been nice.

In any case fair do's to Barnsley, and on a serious note re the FA Cup, I hope the inevitable winning of the thing by a totally unheralded outfit doesn't serve to diminish the stature of the competition even more than has happened over the last decade or so. Those members of the Fa panel who allowed Man Utd to not bother defending the cup and have a mid season holiday all those years ago should hang their heads in shame.

Very true. You can't help but feel that a very good chance is now gone. Regardless, we would have played Chelsea, so who knows. Maybe that would have been the real final. But sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and accept that there are two teams trying very hard to win a game of football. Barnsley obviously wanted it more and earned it. I say fair play to them. It can only help enhance the reputation of the cup and keep that spark alive with upsets such as these.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:47 pm

I have all the time in the world for BigMick always have done love his posts and when he posts something negative its always positive.
He doesnt slag players or people off its positive negativity I know what he is getting at because I feel the same way aswell.

by **nobybob** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:50 pm

bigmick wrote:
nobybob wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Amazing how there just doesn't seem to be as many moaning c*nts coming out of the woodwork lately with their knives sharpened. I mean, come on - you were all Liverpool supporters, right? So where are you now? Why not come out of the woodwork when we are playing well?

Sad c*nts!

I do enjoy your art work fella but this is yet another post which perhaps shouldn't have made it past your filtering system.

Not by any means for the first time this season we are playing well and looking like a good team. We are in the midst of a run of exceedingly winnable games and we are doing the business with aplomb. All Liverpool fans are happy with that, not just your good self and it will be very interesting should we buck the trend of the last few years and get some points away at Arsenal and Man Utd to see just how close we might finish.

For the umpteenth time this season though, some people are in severe danger of getting carried away. At our best we have consistently shown we are a match for nearly everybody, it's when we lose and go on one of our extended bliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiips that problems occur.

Sorry to "leave a trail of sh!t in my wake" to quote another of your efforts after we'd won a game, but I felt it had to be said.

The point he is making is not how well we are playing! its the deafening silence from peewee and the rafa haters that is so noticable. Why have you guys gone quiet , why no praise now its due??

Well on a personal level I've gone quiet 'cos i've been in bed mate and haven't seen the match, any of it. I'm not really up on time differentials but there is every possibility that living in Thailand Peewee is in bed as well, feck knows.

The poster of the original comments ought to know better.

Thailand or not ,when we play bad he is on here like a shot moaning and winging ,screaming for blood. if he can get on here when we play bad then surely he should be all the keener to have his say when we are doing OK.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:51 pm

Sabre wrote:
nobybob wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Amazing how there just doesn't seem to be as many moaning c*nts coming out of the woodwork lately with their knives sharpened. I mean, come on - you were all Liverpool supporters, right? So where are you now? Why not come out of the woodwork when we are playing well?

Sad c*nts!

I do enjoy your art work fella but this is yet another post which perhaps shouldn't have made it past your filtering system.

Not by any means for the first time this season we are playing well and looking like a good team. We are in the midst of a run of exceedingly winnable games and we are doing the business with aplomb. All Liverpool fans are happy with that, not just your good self and it will be very interesting should we buck the trend of the last few years and get some points away at Arsenal and Man Utd to see just how close we might finish.

For the umpteenth time this season though, some people are in severe danger of getting carried away. At our best we have consistently shown we are a match for nearly everybody, it's when we lose and go on one of our extended bliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiips that problems occur.

Sorry to "leave a trail of sh!t in my wake" to quote another of your efforts after we'd won a game, but I felt it had to be said.

The point he is making is not how well we are playing! its the deafening silence from peewee and the rafa haters that is so noticable. Why have you guys gone quiet , why no praise now its due?? Come on all you negative posters you know who you are , here is your chance to post somthing positive -- come on you can do it just give it a try , you never know you might actually like it

Come on mate, this is not necessary, let's finnish the "two camps" thing. I'm love Rafa's work here, and I don't like him to be insulted, but these comments won't help either, because then we lose a game and the negativity strikes back.

Plus those comments are aimed to the ones that insult Rafa, and bigmick thinks it's aimed to him. We are all fans and definitely criticism have to exist in these boards.

Bad Bob: I got a bit wrong your first comment on Lucas, I got it now, thanks!

You're exactly right, Sabre. My comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular, rather towards those who just seem to pop up at times when we aren't doing so well. In either case, it is ironic that those who do show up with their negativities are getting more carried away with one or two bad results than those of us who are enjoying a run of good form. They come in, throw their daggers about, then leave. No balance whatsoever.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:53 pm

nobybob wrote:Thailand or not ,when we play bad he is on here like a shot moaning and winging ,screaming for blood. if he can get on here when we play bad then surely he should be all the keener to have his say when we are doing OK.

Even though Peewee is probably in bed and didnt see the game he will moan anyway feck him he moans about everything.
He is really not important.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:55 pm

God, I've started something here, haven't I?

by **nobybob** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:55 pm

Come on mate, this is not necessary, let's finnish the "two camps" thing. I'm love Rafa's work here, and I don't like him to be insulted, but these comments won't help either, because then we lose a game and the negativity strikes back.

Plus those comments are aimed to the ones that insult Rafa, and bigmick thinks it's aimed to him. We are all fans and definitely criticism have to exist in these boards.

Bad Bob: I got a bit wrong your first comment on Lucas, I got it now, thanks!

big mick knows this is not aimed at him as i have always made it very clear i respect his well balanced, knolegable, criticism and he always posts regardless of result. MY point is aimed at others who deserve it we all know who they are???

by **bigmick** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:55 pm

Emerald Red wrote:It's all true. No point in beating around the bush with drawn out politically correctness from me. That is not my style. Noby hit the nail on the head and answered Mick's post for me.

In that case we shall have to differ which is fair enough.

We will differ oh on the point that generalising to the extent where we label those all of us who have expressed doubts about the manager and his methodology as sad c...s is unnecessary. It's not for me a case of political correctness either, it's simply a ridiculous comment.

We will also have to differ on whether or not you are getting carried away. Three weeks ago it was nothing to do with the manager that we weren't playing well and had just got knocked out of the FA Cup by Barnsley at home, "It's the players mate". Now we've got up in a few winnable games (and admittedly Inter Milan as well) and the manager is a genius and anybody who disagrees is "spouting bile, leaving a trail of sh!t in their wake", or a "sad c...".

The saddest part of all if there is one, is that you seem to think that you have the monopoly on wanting the team to succeed. "Real" fans don't wonder about the managers position, they show "loyalty" and "belief". Forget the fact that this particular run of good form has coincided with the manager adopting almost precisely the methodology visa vis selection policy that some of us have been banging on about for years. It makes no odds and why should it get in the way of an opportunity to dish out some abuse?

We will agree to differ alright, suits me fine.

by **Effes** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:56 pm

nobybob wrote:Thailand or not ,when we play bad he is on here like a shot moaning and winging ,screaming for blood. if he can get on here when we play bad then surely he should be all the keener to have his say when we are doing OK.

It's about 3am there.

I dont know why people get so irate when someone has a go at Rafa, rotation, or the way we're playing.

So many people just wanna hear "we're gweat!" and nowt else - like it or not; we haven't delivered in the league this season.

I for one prefer to hear what's wrong rather than what's "gweat". Anything but a win today would have been a disaster - dont get me wrong, we did well and against West Ham we were very good. But you've gotta realise the opposition we were playing.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:57 pm

bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:It's all true. No point in beating around the bush with drawn out politically correctness from me. That is not my style. Noby hit the nail on the head and answered Mick's post for me.

In that case we shall have to differ which is fair enough.

We will differ oh on the point that generalising to the extent where we label those all of us who have expressed doubts about the manager and his methodology as sad c...s is unnecessary. It's not for me a case of political correctness either, it's simply a ridiculous comment.

We will also have to differ on whether or not you are getting carried away. Three weeks ago it was nothing to do with the manager that we weren't playing well and had just got knocked out of the FA Cup by Barnsley at home, "It's the players mate". Now we've got up in a few winnable games (and admittedly Inter Milan as well) and the manager is a genius and anybody who disagrees is "spouting bile, leaving a trail of sh!t in their wake", or a "sad c...".

The saddest part of all if there is one, is that you seem to think that you have the monopoly on wanting the team to succeed. "Real" fans don't wonder about the managers position, they show "loyalty" and "belief". Forget the fact that this particular run of good form has coincided with the manager adopting almost precisely the methodology visa vis selection policy that some of us have been banging on about for years. It makes no odds and why should it get in the way of an opportunity to dish out some abuse?

We will agree to differ alright, suits me fine.

Is this sarcasm, Mick?

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:58 pm

I haven't seen the game yet so can't comment on it beyond saying another good result. I think the Rafa lovers are getting a little bit carried away with the wins against bottom/poor sides. I will wait till we beat some of the top sides before I start gloating. FFS get a grip, if you had been asked before the season started would we beat Middlesbro', Bolton, West Ham and Newcastle, I am pretty sure you would have said yes.

I don't like the formation, even though its working better than I could have dreamed of at the moment. I feel against better sides we will still struggle to break them down (I just hope I am wrong) using this formation.

I just wonder why all the behind the scenes shinnanigans isn't affecting the players now , as it was supposedly responsible for all our previous bad results? Maybe its because we are playing poor sides at the moment (or against 10 men).

As I said the next few games will be more informative of how much progress we have made. Fingers crossed we may have made significant strides, and a few good results now against the better sides will be just the proof I need.

by **Effes** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:00 pm

bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:It's all true. No point in beating around the bush with drawn out politically correctness from me. That is not my style. Noby hit the nail on the head and answered Mick's post for me.

In that case we shall have to differ which is fair enough.

We will differ oh on the point that generalising to the extent where we label those all of us who have expressed doubts about the manager and his methodology as sad c...s is unnecessary. It's not for me a case of political correctness either, it's simply a ridiculous comment.

We will also have to differ on whether or not you are getting carried away. Three weeks ago it was nothing to do with the manager that we weren't playing well and had just got knocked out of the FA Cup by Barnsley at home, "It's the players mate". Now we've got up in a few winnable games (and admittedly Inter Milan as well) and the manager is a genius and anybody who disagrees is "spouting bile, leaving a trail of sh!t in their wake", or a "sad c...".

The saddest part of all if there is one, is that you seem to think that you have the monopoly on wanting the team to succeed. "Real" fans don't wonder about the managers position, they show "loyalty" and "belief". Forget the fact that this particular run of good form has coincided with the manager adopting almost precisely the methodology visa vis selection policy that some of us have been banging on about for years. It makes no odds and why should it get in the way of an opportunity to dish out some abuse?

We will agree to differ alright, suits me fine.

Mick, have you packed in being Koffi Annan?

No more Mr Niceguy! :laugh:

by **nobybob** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:05 pm

The saddest part of all if there is one, is that you seem to think that you have the monopoly on wanting the team to succeed. "Real" fans don't wonder about the managers position, they show "loyalty" and "belief". Forget the fact that this particular run of good form has coincided with the manager adopting almost precisely the methodology visa vis selection policy that some of us have been banging on about for years. It makes no odds and why should it get in the way of an opportunity to dish out some abuse?

We will agree to differ alright, suits me fine.

So why cant they come on here now and say "well done rafa you listened we are on the right track good" . i have no problem with peoples questioning of rafa if they perceive he has made a mistake all i ask is a little praise when we are headed in the right direction that's all!

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