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Postby The Manhattan Project » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:57 am

Rush Job wrote:But anyone can have elite status as long as youve made 100 or more posts i thought, whats the problem?

No, 100 posts only means you can be "considered" for Elite Status.


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Postby maguskwt » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:58 am

big al wrote:I joined this site back in 2003, there were some really funny guys about then who very often tested my patience and actually made me wise up and chill out.  Supersub was forever apologisng to me about how these youngsters treated me and how they tried to cut me to the bone. They never did.  Peewee might recall the wonderful drunken arguments we had with himself and his friends. 50% of the time they were right the 50% was made up of the rest of us.  I could always trust John Barnes Granny and GreenRed and Oldredeyes to bring some sembalence of order to the discussion. But the youngsters ruled and made me laugh. I loved them and the pearls of wisdom of cheescakery. I loved that guy even though I never met him. I suspect he may have been an interloper. but he kicked :censored:.  I loved posting here and was asked on a number of occasions to be a moderator. But you see I am a born rebel a Bill Shankly loving non conformist.  I may actual and with my hand on my heart love Shankly more than I love Liverpool FC. As a football coach  myself he was, is remains my hero.  I love Bill Shankly. Anyway thats all by and by.  What forced me to leave this site back then and still winds me up is the separation. When the creators and moderaters of this site created an elite posting forum I had to leave. I could not stay around anymore when censorship was taking over. Liverpool FC was the club of the working class it was a club whose roots lay in real people who struggled to survive. It was born of the people and for the people. I am still very disappoint to see an elite board heree, as if those who post less have less say. I have never posted there and  I never will. I am from the people born of the people and love the people. As was my hero Bill Shankly.  Liverpool FC has never had elite members, apart from Hicks and Gillett.  I am surprise that the elite board still exists I hoped it would be gone.  I do log on there sometimes to see what it being posted AND THE FACT IS, THE FANS WHO DONT HAVE ELITE STATUS MISS OUT BECAUSE THEIR RESPONSE OR VOICE IS NOT ACKNOWLEDGE.  My point is this appartite is wrong wherever it comes from what ever the excuse appartite is wrong. Unify this site and agree with the members a code of behaviour or contract which will lead to exclusion of those who breach the trust of all of us and not the decision of any single or combined moderator.  I dont care why people are banned as long as it because they breach a common agreed set of values.  Id have no complaints.  I would urge evey serious member on here to join me and call for a clear and agreed set of rules that we all know and understand.  that this site is open to all until they breach the rules andtjhat most importantly we all agree waht those rules should be.  I accept that sometimes I talk sh**E but tonight Im right. Thats sounds like an irish ode( now theres a wee copyright mark I need to add here)@is that it.  Anyway stop the appartite.

great post big al...

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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:25 am

The Manhattan Project wrote:
Rush Job wrote:But anyone can have elite status as long as youve made 100 or more posts i thought, whats the problem?

No, 100 posts only means you can be "considered" for Elite Status.



Even Sophie managed to become Elite, I can't see anyone being turned down  :D
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Postby laza » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:49 am

For me its main use is when the forum becomes infested with windups, alter egos and other assorted :censored: that you go and hide in there. Other then that its just a internet forum some people really need a life..........now back to the Star trek convention  :D
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:15 am

It would be a good place to stick the match day threads in, especially the european matches that way we dont have to put up with the WUM's.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:02 pm

nice to be mentioned in the first post  :D

but seriously i dont think i have ever posted in the elite section
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:34 pm

Much ado about nothing if you ask me Big Al.

There's currently only one thread in there that was started this year and as others have pointed out after a hundred posts anybody can use it.

Do take your point however that it does have a whiff of elitism about it, think the mods did at one point discuss scrapping it. (I feel a poll coming on :D )

As for forum rules, they're pinned at the top of every menu page.
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Postby Judge » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:20 pm

big al wrote:wollyback I remember you my friend, where have all the good men gone?

still here mate  :D
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Postby laza » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:34 pm

Judge wrote:
big al wrote:wollyback I remember you my friend, where have all the good men gone?

still here mate  :D

He said men Judge   :p
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:27 pm

this has real world status all over it with the first remark lol

ps - im elite :p
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:03 pm

laza wrote:
Judge wrote:
big al wrote:wollyback I remember you my friend, where have all the good men gone?

still here mate  :D

He said men Judge   :p

and he said 'good'      :p
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:11 pm

and he said friend  :wwww
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Postby JBG » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:36 pm

Heh Wool and Al I'm only 31 but at times look 60. :D

The Premium Members is now well and truly defunct and should be scrapped. It was an experiment three years ago to try and clamp down on spammers and wind up merchants. The idea was that all regular members would be allowed to post there and it would become the main posting forum and that way wind up merchants wouldn't be allowed to ruin decent threads.

You may remember at the time that Dom and Roberts/Beavis had about ten alter egos on the go at anyone time and they often used these to spam the forums. Indeed there were worse than Dom and Roberts, such as freaks like Kindaconfused.

The idea was to keep these guys at arms length and not allow them spoil the football threads.

However, the Premium forum was misinterpreted at the time as a zone for the only those members who the mods thought were "good enough" to post there. Lines were drawn where there was never an intention to divide the forum into the haves and have nots. As I said, the original idea was that all of the regular members would become members and spammers could be kept at arms length.

Sadly it never took off and became a bone of contention.

In any event there are new posting rules where I think you need to have a certain amount of posts before you can start a new thread and there are far more moderators now to help things stay on an even keel.
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Postby big al » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:09 pm

JBG, 31, your kidding, right.  You always seemed so mature and sensible, I revered you as a senior member of society.  Now I find you were just a 26 year old know it all:p.  But seriously 31, your sensiblity must be genetic just like my boyish good looks.  Take a vote to scarp the elite forum, if a majority say yes then the issue will be decided.  Thanks for your reply.
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:12 pm

I could just move all the threads to Liverpool Gen Chat and close the place down and the the top man could delete the empty forum from existence.

Or if there's a quicker way, due to my extreme laziness, I'm all ears.
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