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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:22 pm

bigmick wrote:All that said I like him, and if he was ever to stay fit I think he'd improve immeasureably for a sustained run in the team.

Wouldn't be to difficult for that to happen to Mick in all honesty.

It got to the point earlier in the season where I said "I'd rather have Traore then Aurellio." Maybe a bit extreme, but I don't see anything from Aurellio that makes him any better.

The whole point of football is to score goals, Djimi Traore scored once (in the right end) for Liverpool. It was in the UEFA Cup. Aurellio has none.

Bring back Djimi, all is forgotten  :D
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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:24 pm

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god_bless_john_houlding wrote:He's useless. No wonder he was a free if he was half decent then he wouldn't of run out of contract at a decent club like Valencia. He's one of those players who should be sold as soon as possible in the summer.

John, normally I broadly agree with you but here. Why? "Cos you're wrong  :wwww  :p

I'm really starting to get into this short posting style now   :D

You're wrong Mick for thinking I'm wrong.  :p

I can pull funny faces like you as well, look  :rasp

He isn't worth :censored: on (aurellio that is, not mick  :D ) Next season I'd love to see him at another club, he'll cost us far to dearly. Especially with the bollox free kicks he for some reason thinks he's good at.
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Postby woof woof ! » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:26 pm

dawson99 wrote:I thought Aurelio had a good game. Aside from his injury, ami the only oen who thinks hes a good prospect for us? he over lapped well, put in some good crosses

I think technically he's one of our more gifted players . Hasn't yet had the chance  to fully adjust his game to the premiership , injuries and rotation haven't helped the transition.
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:54 pm

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dawson99 wrote:I thought Aurelio had a good game. Aside from his injury, ami the only oen who thinks hes a good prospect for us? he over lapped well, put in some good crosses

I think technically he's one of our more gifted players . Hasn't yet had the chance  to fully adjust his game to the premiership , injuries and rotation haven't helped the transition.

I think a lot of the problems stem from the build up he was given when he arrived. "Better passer than Alonso", "free kick expert" being Brazilian also increased expectation as well. He seems a tidy player but not the star we all hoped he would be.

I don't think we have seen the best of him yet, but if we have the money in the summer I would be lookin around for better. I certainly wouldn't fancy him playing full back in front of an out and out winger who may leave him exposed. Where as played behind an on form Riise I think there could be possibilities of a decent partnership.
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Postby flombs » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:18 am

LFC2007 wrote:The lack of reaction on here when we beat Inter Milan, it's incredible really  :laugh:

Here we go,

We win a game and now the raffa bandwagon has come to tell us
how wrong we are for speaking out about Raffs.

So where to next for the magical mystery tour that is LFC?

win, Lose or Draw?

Sadly, i don't have my invitation yet.
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Postby RedBlood » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:52 am

auerrilo is a good player but far too injury prone

next season id start with arebola at left back execellent defender and lots of energy and pace to get forward, and id have little insua as back up..i think the lad is going to be top class but he needs first team football because hes gone as far as he can at reserve level

id cash in on riise and auerillo
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Postby redtrader74 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:18 am

Aurelio needs time, time to adjust to a foreign country, time to gather confidence. In short instances he has shown he has the class. Free kicks are the same wherever you take them, so if he was excellent before he can be again, once he feels part of the set up. I remember Arbeloa given a lot of stick last year, but after a season of bedding in and becoming comfortable in his surroundings he has become one of our most consistent and versatile defenders.
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Postby heimdall » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:48 am

woof woof ! wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I thought Aurelio had a good game. Aside from his injury, ami the only oen who thinks hes a good prospect for us? he over lapped well, put in some good crosses

I think technically he's one of our more gifted players . Hasn't yet had the chance  to fully adjust his game to the premiership , injuries and rotation haven't helped the transition.

If Aurelio is one of our most gifted players then we are in bigger sh1t than I thought. I'll agree he has potential but his freekick taking is appalling and that's supposed to be his speciality isn't it? We should plat Riise in the return match at the San Siro that's for sure, or maybe play Hyppia, Carra and Skrtel together with Finnan. We need to be more solid at the back than we've ever been.
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:38 pm

Bad Bob wrote:No, no, no, mate...that's not it at all.  There are two camps but it shakes out like this:

Camp One still has faith in Rafa

Camp Two doesn't

What that means is that those of us in Camp One still feel that, despite mounting evidence to the contrary (I freely admit), Rafa has the capacity to win us the league.  We don't just want cup success and the only reason we refer to the cups is because, to us, they demonstrate that Rafa can get the best out of players and put silverware in the cabinet.  To us in Camp One, those cups have cemented our faith in the man and we are prepared to be a bit more patient with him in the hopes that he'll bring us the league.

For those of you in Camp Two, it seems clear that you have lost that faith in the man.  A very few of you never had it in the first place and that's your prerogative.  Many of you, however, did have tremendous faith in the man at one point but have now decided that he's no longer up to the task of bringing us the league.  Again, that's your prerogative.  As I've admitted, you've got mounting evidence on your side as well as mounting backing from fellow supporters.  I'd even go so far as to say that you will almost certainly get your wish because I expect Rafa will be off, one way or the other, by season's end at the latest.

To answer Mick's initial question, IMO, as a debate, this "Rafa - stay or go?" discussion is over.  We in Camp One will never convince you in Camp Two that you're wrong at this stage (and vice versa, to be fair).  You refute any evidence we might wish to present and you clearly don't share the faith that underlies it all for us, so what's the point in arguing about it?  That's why a lot of us are much quieter these days: we can't be a.rsed debating the issue when so many minds are already made up.  I just hope that we can keep any discussion that arises civil.  This place has already seen enough flame wars in the past few months.

That's a good post mate. Pretty much sums things up. If i'm honest I don't really have much faith that Rafa will ever win the league BUT I am willing to wait things out till the summer and hope the owners do the same. I am also (still) very grateful for some of the fantastic European nights we have enjoyed thanks to Rafa over the past few years (few days) and Tuesday was no exception. The ground was absolutely buzzing again. A welcome shot in the arm.

I remember seeing an excellent cartoon in 2005 in the one of the broad-sheets (The Times i think), it had Stevie G, Carra and Rafa depicted as 'the Incredibles' although they were called 'the Improbables'. It seems to be a ridiculous idea but could this actually be our year again? It's hard to believe, 'improbable' but not impossible.

With that crowd behind them on Wednesday nights anything is possible.
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:57 pm

On the subject of Aurelio, he didn't have a great game on Tuesday night but it's worth pointing out that they made absolutely NO headway down our left flank with 10 or 11 men on the pitch and we didn't conced a goal. I struggle to have a go at defenders when we've just kept a clean sheet.

As far as i can see. He's very solid technically, can pass, can cross and to be fair to him, was playing very well up untill tearing his achilles against PSV last season. He is short of pace and maybe lacks the bottle to be a Premiership player but he's deffo a better player than he's showing at the moment. But then the same can be said of most of them at the moment.
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:00 pm

flombs wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:The lack of reaction on here when we beat Inter Milan, it's incredible really  :laugh:

Here we go,

We win a game and now the raffa bandwagon has come to tell us
how wrong we are for speaking out about Raffs.

So where to next for the magical mystery tour that is LFC?

win, Lose or Draw?

Sadly, i don't have my invitation yet.

Think he might have been making a little joke there mate. Just a bit of irony.
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Postby Ace Ventura » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:18 pm

I said it in the match thread but will say it again.

I though Aurellio was our worst player against Inter.
He was so wasteful in posession and in great areas. Because of the sending off Inter tucked in to get loads of bodies behind the ball allowing our full backs to push on and giving them loads of time and space.
Finnan exploited the right superbly but Fabio's passing and crossing was really poor.
I know he is capable of far better, i remember his cross for Crouchs header against Arsenal last season but Tue he was terrible imho.
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Postby JC_81 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:27 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:I said it in the match thread but will say it again.

I though Aurellio was our worst player against Inter.
He was so wasteful in posession and in great areas. Because of the sending off Inter tucked in to get loads of bodies behind the ball allowing our full backs to push on and giving them loads of time and space.
Finnan exploited the right superbly but Fabio's passing and crossing was really poor.
I know he is capable of far better, i remember his cross for Crouchs header against Arsenal last season but Tue he was terrible imho.

I agree Ace.

Don't rate Aurelio at all.  We can point to his injuries or that he has never had an extended run in the team, but the fact is he has never been entirely convincing.

For a Brazilian he doesn't exactly have the best first touch, his distribution isn't good and his delivery or attempts at goal from set plays is awful.  For a defender I don't think he is aggressive enough and positionally he can be suspect (although that is partly due to not being a regular and not knowing his team mates as well as he could - as defending is as a unit and not on an individual basis).

He can occasionally look good on the ball but ultimately I think he flatters to deceive and I would sell him off rather than Riise at the end of the season, then I'd promote Insua to the 1st team squad next season.
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Postby puroresu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:32 pm

Aurelio is not good enough at all.  Should be at a mid table side.
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Postby Boocity » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:13 pm

Give the guy a break, its not as if he has had an extended run in the side. I think he's better than riise at the moment. With regard to his freekicks, its not as if he gets the alot of opportunities during a game, SG has a go, riise has a go and both of these tend to be taken indirect. With Riise its a 50 yard run and hit it as hard as he can and most of the time he gets closed down, at least Aurellio can hit from a deadball
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