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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:36 pm

bigmick wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:As a manager in his own right, Rafa is certainly comparable to Wenger.

Well that's an opinion LFc and you are entitled to it. No doubt in terms of Eurpoean success, Rafa is superior to Wenger. Domestically however, which is what I was talking about when I talked of Wenger rebuilding his team over the last four years there really is absolutely no comparison.

Now I guess somebody will come on and say "but hang on, they do compare. In tha least two years we've finished above them on both occasions" and once again they would be entitled to that view as well :D.

I'm no statistician though, but I really would be interested to see our mananger compared in terms of transfer funds, time in the job, team/players inherited etc etc etc with the managers which he is actually competing with.

I must say though fair play to the supporters of the manager. In those heady days at the start of the season where poster after poster came on and said "well I think we'll launch a challenge. For me that means we'll be within 5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12 (take your pick) points of the Champions, then we can press on from there  :buttrock " who would have thought that we would never ever be involved in the title race, be out of it before it even got started and be in a four way scrap for fourth place? Who would have thought that our points total would be so far off our best under the cuurrent mananger, despite the signing of Torres? That people STILL believe shows incredible faith, and though I totally disagree I am secretly quite impressed by it sometimes.

When I say 'a manager in his own right', I mean, his managerial record in totality.

It stacks up well against Wenger's.

In terms of their performances as managers of their current respective clubs, I think it's unfair to compare the two in that Wenger's managerial record at Arsenal extends to 11 years and 5 months. Rafa's only extends to 3 years and 8 months.
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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:30 am

Comparing managers, for whatever reasons is pretty pointless. No manager works under the same circumstances as another, whether they be at the same club or not. We can sit here and say "well done to the United board for sticking with Ferguson in his early years" there's no guarantee that they would of stuck with another manager. We can sit here and say "well done Wenger for not spending a lot" but who's to say the Arsenal board wouldn't of given another manager an open cheque book.

It depends on the manager, the club and the way both are working at the time. So I think it's pointless excercise comparing any manager with another, but have no worries I'll do it in the future, so some bright spark can come and throw this back in me face when I do.
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2) pass and move is the Liverpool groove
3) FIRST WILL ALWAYS BE FIRST AND SECOND WILL ALWAYS BE NOTHING.
4) If Torres has scored 60 league goals for Liverpool by the start of the 2011/12 season, I'll say he's better than Owen.
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Postby LFC2007 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:58 am

You've been comparing Rafa with other managers all the while mate.
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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:09 am

Yes I know, but just reading through your's and mick's debate, it dawned on me that it is pointless.
1) You'll Never Walk Alone
2) pass and move is the Liverpool groove
3) FIRST WILL ALWAYS BE FIRST AND SECOND WILL ALWAYS BE NOTHING.
4) If Torres has scored 60 league goals for Liverpool by the start of the 2011/12 season, I'll say he's better than Owen.
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Postby LFC2007 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:09 am

:D
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:42 am

jonnymac1979 wrote:The mods section is so we don't have to PM each other.  It's way easier and a good soundboard platform rather than discussing stuff by PM.  It was introduced in September 2007 if I'm not mistaken. 

I had nothing to do with setting it up as I was on holiday abroad, but whichever mods idea it was to set up should be commended as it has made any communication problems disappear.  Most forums have them, it's not a 'secret section' we never told anyone about.

It's been quite helpful.  Any WUMs can be brought to the attention of the moderators very early for instance, any threads get locked we tell each other about it, any posts deleted we tell each other about it, any members carded etc... and dates when we decide they are able to come back and post are decided.

Peewee, you know can't see it, we know you can't see it, so stop with the mind games. 

However if there is a way you can see it and you don't tell us how you can see it, I'll simply stop your posting rights.  You lose out either way.  So again, stop with the mind games. 

And anyway, it wouldn't take a genius to figure out with your recent behaviour on here that there would be a near certain probability of there being a Peewee thread in the mods section now would there? 

Congratulations, you called our bluff, there's your answer, clever clogs.

well if you were as on the ball as you think you are you would know (as can be confirmed by supersub and also confirmed by my comments in one thread) that when i was reinstated I was given mod status and took great pleasure in reading about your hatred of me and how happy you were to ban me, as were the comments from the other mods, some were nicer than others but obviously yours and leons were full of vitriol, i even liked the excuse given for not carding ciggy    :D   Now i never realised at first, it was only when i noticed that i was given mod status from the sign under my avatar that i sent a pm to supersub and he removed it, so it seems that all the relevant info is shared in that section now does it/

Also i was able to read a lot of the other threads in there, i was happy to keep this quiet until leon tried again with his little wind up in here.

anyway one things for sure, the cards and bannings are not based on breaking the rules, they are based on personal feelings.

now let me get on with my posting, i am doing no harm and leons little dig was uncalled for, you leave me alone to my posting and i am abiding by the rules of my reinstatement.

so there you go clever clogs    :;):    what now, ban me again for no reason?


haha 'if you can see it tell us how you can see it or i will ban you', i thought we left school years ago
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Postby big al » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:01 am

Peewee, as you know I have been away doing other things.  But I am surprised to hear you were banned.  Can you talk about it or is that banned too.  How long were you banned for, can I ask why. What is life like on the Margins did you feel like a Tranmere fan.  If you were banned should you represent your country at the world championships or maybe you read the Daily Mail and are against allowing banned people to breathe. Did you fail a test.  You know come on here drunk trying to post coherent threads but instead bumping into innocent people knocking their opinions all over the place, then failing to type with your eyes shut whilst hopping on one leg.  Or was it the other kind of test you failed.  You know having illegal substances showing up in your rhetorical questions.  I hope your were'nt obscene or offensive like those Manc's that come on here who everyone refers to as scum.  if it was anything pornographic the can you forget everything I've just said and pm me your email and a price list.:D
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:40 am

big al wrote:Peewee, as you know I have been away doing other things.  But I am surprised to hear you were banned.  Can you talk about it or is that banned too.  How long were you banned for, can I ask why. What is life like on the Margins did you feel like a Tranmere fan.  If you were banned should you represent your country at the world championships or maybe you read the Daily Mail and are against allowing banned people to breathe. Did you fail a test.  You know come on here drunk trying to post coherent threads but instead bumping into innocent people knocking their opinions all over the place, then failing to type with your eyes shut whilst hopping on one leg.  Or was it the other kind of test you failed.  You know having illegal substances showing up in your rhetorical questions.  I hope your were'nt obscene or offensive like those Manc's that come on here who everyone refers to as scum.  if it was anything pornographic the can you forget everything I've just said and pm me your email and a price list.:D

:D   I can't comment mate, but suffice to say it was for less than others get away with on a regular basis
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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:45 am

Fight the cause peewee :D
1) You'll Never Walk Alone
2) pass and move is the Liverpool groove
3) FIRST WILL ALWAYS BE FIRST AND SECOND WILL ALWAYS BE NOTHING.
4) If Torres has scored 60 league goals for Liverpool by the start of the 2011/12 season, I'll say he's better than Owen.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:57 am

peewee wrote:
jonnymac1979 wrote:The mods section is so we don't have to PM each other.  It's way easier and a good soundboard platform rather than discussing stuff by PM.  It was introduced in September 2007 if I'm not mistaken. 

I had nothing to do with setting it up as I was on holiday abroad, but whichever mods idea it was to set up should be commended as it has made any communication problems disappear.  Most forums have them, it's not a 'secret section' we never told anyone about.

It's been quite helpful.  Any WUMs can be brought to the attention of the moderators very early for instance, any threads get locked we tell each other about it, any posts deleted we tell each other about it, any members carded etc... and dates when we decide they are able to come back and post are decided.

Peewee, you know can't see it, we know you can't see it, so stop with the mind games. 

However if there is a way you can see it and you don't tell us how you can see it, I'll simply stop your posting rights.  You lose out either way.  So again, stop with the mind games. 

And anyway, it wouldn't take a genius to figure out with your recent behaviour on here that there would be a near certain probability of there being a Peewee thread in the mods section now would there? 

Congratulations, you called our bluff, there's your answer, clever clogs.

well if you were as on the ball as you think you are you would know (as can be confirmed by supersub and also confirmed by my comments in one thread) that when i was reinstated I was given mod status and took great pleasure in reading about your hatred of me and how happy you were to ban me, as were the comments from the other mods, some were nicer than others but obviously yours and leons were full of vitriol, i even liked the excuse given for not carding ciggy    :D   Now i never realised at first, it was only when i noticed that i was given mod status from the sign under my avatar that i sent a pm to supersub and he removed it, so it seems that all the relevant info is shared in that section now does it/

Also i was able to read a lot of the other threads in there, i was happy to keep this quiet until leon tried again with his little wind up in here.

anyway one things for sure, the cards and bannings are not based on breaking the rules, they are based on personal feelings.

now let me get on with my posting, i am doing no harm and leons little dig was uncalled for, you leave me alone to my posting and i am abiding by the rules of my reinstatement.

so there you go clever clogs    :;):    what now, ban me again for no reason?


haha 'if you can see it tell us how you can see it or i will ban you', i thought we left school years ago

Shit stirrer.

None of us knew there was a MOD section, and why was I to be carded?
The pm you sent to me thing short of disgraceful.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:26 am

Ciggy wrote:
peewee wrote:
jonnymac1979 wrote:The mods section is so we don't have to PM each other.  It's way easier and a good soundboard platform rather than discussing stuff by PM.  It was introduced in September 2007 if I'm not mistaken. 

I had nothing to do with setting it up as I was on holiday abroad, but whichever mods idea it was to set up should be commended as it has made any communication problems disappear.  Most forums have them, it's not a 'secret section' we never told anyone about.

It's been quite helpful.  Any WUMs can be brought to the attention of the moderators very early for instance, any threads get locked we tell each other about it, any posts deleted we tell each other about it, any members carded etc... and dates when we decide they are able to come back and post are decided.

Peewee, you know can't see it, we know you can't see it, so stop with the mind games. 

However if there is a way you can see it and you don't tell us how you can see it, I'll simply stop your posting rights.  You lose out either way.  So again, stop with the mind games. 

And anyway, it wouldn't take a genius to figure out with your recent behaviour on here that there would be a near certain probability of there being a Peewee thread in the mods section now would there? 

Congratulations, you called our bluff, there's your answer, clever clogs.

well if you were as on the ball as you think you are you would know (as can be confirmed by supersub and also confirmed by my comments in one thread) that when i was reinstated I was given mod status and took great pleasure in reading about your hatred of me and how happy you were to ban me, as were the comments from the other mods, some were nicer than others but obviously yours and leons were full of vitriol, i even liked the excuse given for not carding ciggy    :D   Now i never realised at first, it was only when i noticed that i was given mod status from the sign under my avatar that i sent a pm to supersub and he removed it, so it seems that all the relevant info is shared in that section now does it/

Also i was able to read a lot of the other threads in there, i was happy to keep this quiet until leon tried again with his little wind up in here.

anyway one things for sure, the cards and bannings are not based on breaking the rules, they are based on personal feelings.

now let me get on with my posting, i am doing no harm and leons little dig was uncalled for, you leave me alone to my posting and i am abiding by the rules of my reinstatement.

so there you go clever clogs    :;):    what now, ban me again for no reason?


haha 'if you can see it tell us how you can see it or i will ban you', i thought we left school years ago

Shit stirrer.

None of us knew there was a MOD section, and why was I to be carded?
The pm you sent to me thing short of disgraceful.

the comments you made to me before my pm to you were nothing short of disgraceful, but you call me the sh!t stirrer.

the fact is your comments to me prior to my pm had not gone unnoticed by the mods, lets put it that way, but once again they decided to let you get away with your abuse scott free.

end of discussion
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:34 am

anyway why is everyone making a big deal about this, i am not prepared to tell anyone specifics about what was written about them or even show them screenshots.

i brought it up purely to point out that leons comments were not warranted, and the response of another mod is to then threaten to ban me for saying there was a Mods own thread is laughable in the extreme.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:36 am

peewee wrote:the comments you made to me before my pm to you were nothing short of disgraceful, but you call me the sh!t stirrer.

the fact is your comments to me prior to my pm had not gone unnoticed by the mods, lets put it that way, but once again they decided to let you get away with your abuse scott free.

end of discussion

You where doing everyone feckin head in with your constant snipping and arguements and childish behaviour, you where getting on everyone's including the MODS t!ts.
No wonder I didnt get a card for stating the bleedin obvious.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:13 am

Ciggy wrote:No wonder I didnt get a card for stating the bleedin obvious.

well i know different, but lets just let it lie there, we both know if this carries on it will be me carded while you get away with your abuse and arguing AGAIN.

so again i am forced to say end of conversation.

thank you
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:18 am

Where is the mod section, Saints clicky doesnt work. Nothing new there so his wife tells me.

I can imagine the snide remarks from them about me, but I just wanna see it for s.hits and giggles.
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