LFC2007 wrote:god_bless_john_houlding wrote:redtrader74 wrote:god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Leonmc0708 wrote:lakes10 wrote:Emerald Red wrote:s@int wrote:become a Club that USED to win things
Thats what we are mate.....we haven't won anything since 2006 and we are not likely to in the forseeable future unless changes are made.
Spot on, S@int.
And it's not just the manager. It's a lot of other factors that have contributed to our downfall. This is what annoys me.
its been that way for 18 years.
Forget the Fa Cups, LEague Cups and European Cups (Wafer and CL) then hey ?
Jesus Christ lad.
You forgot the super cups and charity shields, after all to Benitez they're massively important trophies to win.
It never stopped you including them amongst Geds haul
I included them because Benitez included them as a big up for his reign. I was pointing out if they counted for Benitez, then they did for Houllier.
I still don't think they're any trophies to take pride in winning.
You use the 'Houllier won more cups than Rafa' argument against those who support Rafa, you tried to legitimise that as a point in itself, yet now, you're willing to distinguish between 'cups'. Before, there was no distinction.
Unfu.ckin.gbeliev.able
It doesn't matter if I include them Houllier still won than Benitez. But since Benitez decided to include them in his trophy cabinet, I'll include them to show Houllier won them as well.
Still doesn't mean I take pride in them.
Houllier: League Cups in 01 and 03, FA Cup in 01 UEFA Cup in 01
Benitez: European Cup 05, FA Cup 06
If I include the Charity Shield and Super Cup it still reads Houllier winning two more trophies than Benitez. Doesn't matter if I include them or not.