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by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:03 pm

Benitez gets sacked he gets a 6 million pay off

Benitez walks, he admits to failure

Which one would you take?

by **DAV** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:13 pm

i did but the mods said my post was not worthy and moved it i called it sack him

by **lakes10** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:17 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Benitez gets sacked he gets a 6 million pay off

Benitez walks, he admits to failure

Which one would you take?

put £1 extra on the price of a shirt to cover the cost, i will pay £1 mre to get rid of him.

by **redsince2001** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:18 pm

chrisrafman wrote:
redsince2001 wrote:
peewee wrote:well Mick I have hardly hidden my feelings.

Now to the people being hypcritical, at one turn you are telling the games moved on and the next breath you are telling us we don't do these things at our club, well let me tell you that I agree we have moved but then trying to suggest we are still a club that does things the right way and behind closed doors is just laughable,

Get him out now

why get him out .... if u got the fu.ckin guts ..get the fu.ckin owners out ... who started this mess in the first place ..
and ruined our fu.ckin season !

why is it the owners fault? they provided millions this summer to strengthen the team and gave the manager full support! rafas rotation system failing our season up

contacting another manager when ur team is 6 points from the top of the league with a game in hand is full support eh ?

and stop saying they spent millions !
as far as i know in my very limited knowledge we spent on torres 21m,babel 11m, benayoun 5m and lucas7m in d summer.thats a total of roughly 45 m .... of which WE RECOUPED about 20m by the sales of garcia , cisse (i think he was sold this season),and bellamy !
thats a net outlay of 25m ....... THAT my friend is a paltry sum indeed for the transfer budjet of a team that is supposed to be suddenly challenging for the league in England at present . HEll ... even the likes of portsmouth and man city have spent that much !!
now remember we reached the champions league final last season .

AND by the way manure spent 60m on three fu.ckin players !

we have only 5-6 top bracket players in my opinion ..thats the spine of the team... reina,carra,gerrard,mascherano and torres . compare these players with the displays of kuyt and the like and the players which manure and chelsea have at their disposal all over the field and then you'll find why we are not challenging in the first place .

to get back to my initial point it was the owners who started the rot .

Again in my limited,humble opinion ......

A football club is all about confidence and trust . rite ??
Once that is lost , for whatever reason it may be... its really really difficult to regain that . The last thing we need is people jumping on rafa's back and blaming his for the current situation because the fact is it's just not his fault alone .

the owners are the primary constructors of this mess. and secondly blame rafa and the :censored:

.in players .....

by **dawson99** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:19 pm

resince, its not the current situation. its this WHOLE season in terms of all cups and league, and in the league we have NEVER under rafa performed against the top 3

by **DAV** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:22 pm

stuff that the manager knows the score he is to blame he picks the team he signs the player. Hicks and co did not tell him to drop torres and and play to idiots up front yesterday. Hicks also didnt tell him to play crusty the clown in goal yesterday. SACK HIM

by **redsince2001** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:24 pm

so according to you my friend ..
before rafa ... in this millenium atleast .... we performed and got great results against the top 3 and 'acceptable' standings in the league eh ??

by **DAV** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:25 pm

im sorry where did i say any of what you posted redsince2001

by **dawson99** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:27 pm

redsince2001 wrote:so according to you my friend ..
before rafa ... in this millenium atleast .... we performed and got great results against the top 3 and 'acceptable' standings in the league eh ??

no. thats why we have had to change managers. but everyone knows that rafa is a cup (hahaha not fa cup anymore) man and he is not good in the premiership. look at our results.

This season, struggled against havant, beaten by barnsley. only just squeezed into the champs league past the group stage.

now we are struggling for top 4 in the league and most importantly the players are not playing well for the manager.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:30 pm

Bamaga man wrote:
We are getting worse and worse, more and more embarassing and it's even get to the point where we can lose at Home to Barnsly in the fifth round of the FA Cup and to be absolutely truthful, none of us are even surprised. Surely that's the clearest indicator of all.

So true.

What amazes me is that the usual fans that defend Rafa up until the sheer point of stupidity hide or dont even post on here after such a humiliation. They'll tell us "its posters like you who usually come out with the same old cr.ap, with your knives sharpened towards Rafa after a defeat"

Well I come out just as much after a win and praise and credit the lads, of course I'd love to talk about how great we are playing and wha a team we look. But as it stands I cant, havent done for at least a season now.

Tuseday will come, and by God by some miracle we keep a clean sheet and beat Inter, all the usual suspects will come out and say ..... ' Where are all those miserable Kunts who want to see rafa fail now ?'

My reply will be 'I'm here right with ya, celebrating' of course though that makes me fickle, to see my team lose and moan about it, then next game we win and I celebrtate it. If that is fickle, that would suggest the likes of Lando, LFC2007, Redtrader 74 and Sabre are equally happy when we lose. I just do not understand their argument. Amongst all that I will STILL mantain Rafa needs to go, Alonso and Kuyt are not good enough even if we did win the CL, but then again there is more chance of the Pope becoming a devil worshipper than there is of us winning the CL.

As a club due to the Yanks we've become an embarrisment
As a team where heading that way too.
Sorry Rafa, time has ticked out you.

Yeah - that's right - we don't have lives outside of this forum. We spend all day waiting for an opportunity to defend Rafa... :Oo:

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Every club has a bad season - why should we be any different?

You want reasons, so we give them to you:

Injuries, bad officials, the owners being gimps, players under-performing.

But no. Thi sis never enough for the vulturous vermin out there.

It HAS to be Rafa.

Well f*ck the lot of you. That team and the tactics were more than good enough to turn Barnsley over. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a prat.

OK? That alright, Bamaga? Can I get back to my life outside this forum now, your f*cking honour? :bowdown

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:30 pm

20 million on Garcia, Cisse and Bellamy

4 for Luis
next to nothing on Cisse
6 for Bellamy

That's 10 and at most 12 millon, 8 million short mate. Zenden, Dudek, Gonzalez all went for small amounts, if any. There's 6 gone and still no 20 million. Fowler left again for a free. Please tell me where we've recouped the 20 million in the summer. Didi Hamman, think it was about a million he went for, that's got us up to 13 million at most, considering we've let 8 players go.

So I'll make this point very clear AGAIN. Benitez does NOT sell just to fund more transfers. He sells though who aren't good enough to play for the club. 13 million he brought in during the summer. That affords Babel. What about Torres, Benayoun, Lucas, Intandje and half a dozen youngsters?

Now let's take the January window. Skrtel for 6 million and Mascheranho (eventually we hope) 18 million, that's 24 in total. We sold Sissoko for 8. So we've still had to find 16 million. Where's that money come from? Is it Rafa's giro money?

by **redsince2001** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:31 pm

DAV wrote:stuff that the manager knows the score he is to blame he picks the team he signs the player. Hicks and co did not tell him to drop torres and and play to idiots up front yesterday. Hicks also didnt tell him to play crusty the clown in goal yesterday. SACK HIM

well you see ...we got a game against INter milan on tuesday . and the fact is the team which was put out by rafa yesterday was good enough to have beaten the opposition.
it's not rafa's fault that the players lacked desire and kept on missing countless chances !

As i said just now . the confidence of the players .. their desire to win is at an all time low at present .. and the turmoil that this club is going through behind the scenes and the fu.ckin politics from the owners is to blame for this .
the players are employees on wages . You can't keep them isolated from the changing-my-manager bullsh.it stared by a certain Mr.Hicks .

by **DAV** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:33 pm

been waiting for you to turn up Lando_Griffin
your post as ever is complete :censored:

.
you would see good points in bin laden
SACK HIM

by **dawson99** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:33 pm

lando, sometimes u r too narrow minded. how the feck is it the owners fault that we cant beat barnsley? we have been awful the whole year (08) We have sucked in the fa cup and league. We have under performed against the top 3 in the past 5 years.

we need a change. we nede new management, someone who the players will play for. someone who gives a damn about the club. Rafa can say what he wants after the game, but he has to admit that hes just not doing it for us.

i wouldnt be surprised if we beat inter on TUESDAY but i still think rafa has to go and we need to have a long fecking hard look at our club.

if any players want to leave with rafa, then they aint the type of players we want anyways.

by **redsince2001** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:35 pm

every top club has a bad season .
look at AC Milan this season
Real madrid in the couple of seasons before capello took over .
Barcelona when Real had zidane,figo and the likes ....

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