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by **dawson99** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:34 pm

what they should do is cut the prem to 18 teams, have a winter break and then have mini tournys in that time in asia/america/whereever

jobs a goodun

by **Big Niall** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:53 pm

I suppose the premiership could cut Everton and Manure.

by **Rob Sallnow** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:22 pm

Dundalk wrote:Alex isnt happy.

Arsene is

A list of who thinks what

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7232856.stm

Including this classic...

They can come over and play these games and people can come and check it out, but I think they are going to leave the stadium more often than not thinking: 'You know what? I can get much better value and more excitement by going to see my Galaxy play.' We do not have a monopoly on cr.ap soccer - it's played all over the world."
Los Angeles Galaxy general manager Alexei Lalas

I expect Rafa will only want to discuss the next game, no?

by **The Manhattan Project** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:59 pm

I'd rather get relegated and left behind than turn into a business instead of a football club. Traditions matter.

They are all businesses.

Our traditions remain intact.

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:09 pm

It seems to me some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing

by **Dundalk** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:49 pm

Rob Sallnow wrote:They can come over and play these games and people can come and check it out, but I think they are going to leave the stadium more often than not thinking: 'You know what? I can get much better value and more excitement by going to see my Galaxy play.' We do not have a monopoly on cr.ap soccer - it's played all over the world."
Los Angeles Galaxy general manager Alexei Lalas

In fairness he has a bit of a point. It does kind of put down a lot of other leagues

by **JC_81** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:53 pm

I'm only going to make one comment on this overseas premiership games idea - what a fu.cking stupid idea. Seriously? Have you ever heard anything so daft in all your life as play Premiership games abroad? And adding in extra fixtures to accomodate it, fu.ck sake. :no

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:56 pm

no to gam£ 39 petition. The football supporters federation

The Premier League have gone too far with their proposals to invent an extra fixture to be played abroad – and the time for football fans to stand up and be counted has arrived.

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by **112-1077774096** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:54 am

Dundalk wrote:Alex isnt happy.

From Sky Sports..........

Sir Alex Ferguson has hit out at the Premier League after not being consulted over plans for an 'international round' of fixtures.

The landmark proposal would see every top-flight club play an additional fixture in a foreign city from the 2010/11 season.

Manchester United boss Ferguson would not give his view on the plan, but was clearly unimpressed by the timing of the Premier League's announcement.

Ferguson said: "What disappoints me is [United chief executive] David Gill phoned me and said 'keep this quiet, we are going to discuss it' and then it's all over the papers this morning.

"They can't keep their mouth shut down there.

"I think if they are going to do these things they should have been enquiring and having discussions with managers and players before they come out with all this stuff and make an issue of it.

"These issues should be discussed internally by clubs before they come to this position we are today but until I speak to David Gill again I have nothing more to say about it."

is this the same alex that pulled out of the FA cup to go and play a meaningless tournament abroad

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:42 am

LOL Platinis havin none of it.

Michel Platini slams Premier League's plan
By David Bond, Chief Sports Writer
Last Updated: 12:47am GMT 09/02/2008

Michel Platini, the Uefa president, yesterday led an international chorus of disapproval of the Premier League's plans to go globall by ridiculing the proposal to play 10 extra matches a season overseas as a "joke".

As world governing body Fifa announced the idea for the "international round" would be examined by their executive committee next month, Platini told The Daily Telegraph he believed it would never get the backing of the sport's international ruling bodies.

Point made: Michel Platini opposes the Premier League scheme
Although the Premier League insisted last night that the project required only the blessing of the Football Association and those federations eventually chosen to stage the fixtures, the opposition of Platini and Fifa president Sepp Blatter threatens to kill the scheme at birth.

It has also placed the League on a fresh collision course with the Uefa president, who has repeatedly attacked the English game for putting money and commercial opportunities before sporting interests.

"It's a strange and comical idea," the former France international said. "I was laughing. I laughed because it will never be received by Fifa, by the fans and by the national associations. It's a nonsense idea. It's like if I am president of Uefa and I put the house of Uefa in China.

"It's ironic. Soon you will have in England no English presidents, you already have no English coach, you have no English players and maybe now you will have no clubs playing in England. It's a joke."

tPlatini revealed that he had discussed the League's plans, approved by the 20 club chairmen at a meeting on Thursday, with Blatter in a telephone conversation yesterday morning. He said the two men agreed that exporting European club games to parts of the world where the game was trying to develop would only serve to stifle progress in those countries.

He added that the proposal, which could see English teams playing 10 matches across one January weekend in cities such as Sydney, Beijing and Los Angeles, risked eroding the identities of Premier League clubs.

"I am sorry, but the business of China needs to belong to the clubs of China," Platini said. "But [the Premier League] want to expand their sponsors, their TV rights. It's always for the same reason.

"You should always represent your fans. I don't know why you have to play in China, because your fans are in Liverpool or in Wigan or Portsmouth. If you belong to a team, you play for your team and your city.

"I had a phone call with Mr Blatter this morning and we share the same idea that it's the responsibility of the national associations, and I am sure they will never accept it because it's not good for football. I think the FA of England will oppose it. The beauty of football is you have some values, you have the teams, you have the fans, you represent something important and you are not a travelling circus. You are not a show, we are part of 100 years of history."

Platini's scathing attack came as Fifa said they would be looking closely at the idea when their executive committee meet on March 14 in Zurich. Under Articles 76 and 77 of the Fifa statutes, the game's governing body have the final say on international matches played in other territories.

But the Premier League argue it is beyond Fifa's jurisdiction, as their idea involves domestic fixtures being played internationally. In those circumstances, Fifa's rules require only the two national associations concerned to approve it.

Regardless of the Fifa rulebook, it is clear the political implications of the League's £80 million idea could be far more significant. With England bidding for the 2018 World Cup, the FA know the move could be damaging to their chances. The backlash in Asia, where there has been opposition in the past to pre-season tours involving English clubs, could also be crucial.

No appetite for Old Firm derbies abroad
Yesterday the head of the Japanese FA, Junji Ogura, said: "It sounds problematic. We are, in principle, opposed to having their Premier League games in Japan, as we have to protect our league and clubs."

Closer to home, Prime Minister Gordon Brown echoed Platini's views by insisting fans' interests must be put first. He said: "Let's see what the fans say about this. I think it's important to recognise that all the money has got to go back into the game, so that the fans get the benefit."

Premier League plan: The carbon cost

The average individual carbon footprint of supporters travelling from England to Sydney, Dubai, Beijing, New York and Los Angeles would be 1.96 tonnes of C02 emissions.

If 4,000 supporters from each club travelled to the matches, that could amount to a combined carbon footprint of around 156,000 tonnes of C02 emissions, although these figures would be significantly reduced by shared air travel.

Cost of flight and three nights in a 3/4 star hotel:

Beijing: Flight £670 and hotel £120.
Dubai: £913 and £230.
Los Angeles: £348 and £500.
New York: £285 and £250.
Sydney: £1,000 and £200.

by **zarababe** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:46 pm

Rob Sallnow wrote:I expect Rafa will only want to discuss the next game, no?

NO NO NO - he's dissed it because of too many games and Torres and Masch's recent outtings

by **zarababe** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:51 pm

NANNY RED wrote:LOL Platinis havin none of it. ...

Michel Platini slams Premier League's plan
By David Bond, Chief Sports Writer
Last Updated: 12:47am GMT 09/02/2008

That's rich - pardon the pun - from someone who wants to scarp the 4th placed team so all the nobody's of europe get in to the CL :no

I expect nothing else form him and that other joke Sepp at FiFA - if this was their idea they'd be road-showing it by now and signing up the sponsors - the fact the so many cities in key centres around the world are expressing an interest has probably narked them off big time - where's there share of the koudas and loot for that matter !

Other leagues significanlty the Azzuri and Spanish - will be nervously looking at how they can jump on the bandwagon without getting left behind - like it or not this is big big big !!

by **dawson99** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:41 pm

"In England, you already have no English coach, no English players and maybe now you will have no clubs playing in England. It's a joke."

hes got a point, but he is a nob

by **JoeTerp** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:47 pm

its just one freaking game people. Imagine if Cardiff were to win the promotion playoffs? then there would be 19 games played outside of England. And I know this seems like a long shot, but there has been talk of the Old Firm trying to join the Premier League, there's 38 more games played outside England. This would just be taken it a little bit (well i guess more like a lotta bit) further away from England

by **The Manhattan Project** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:50 pm

"In England, you already have no English coach, no English players and maybe now you will have no clubs playing in England. It's a joke."

He's talking bollox, as usual.

An English coach means nothing. Guus Hiddink is the manager of Russia and is Dutch. I don't see Platini complaining about that.

"No English players" is also foolish. Gerrard, Carragher, Ferdinand, Rooney, Terry, Lampard etc...all are English and play in England. At the last Champions League, three out of the four semi finalists were English.

"No Clubs Playing in England" is also nonsense. The Premier League have made it very clear that only ONE game out of 39 will be played abroad.

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