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by **dawson99** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:59 am

superbowl was awesom...great game, and great to see ely get mvp.

only bad thing was the trophy at the end going to the owners first..that was sick.

but nice one giants

by **LFC2007** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:16 pm

JoeTerp wrote:I would rather be in the kop against Man U or Chelsea or really anybody than go to the superbowl.

by **Effes** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:12 am

It was a magical game that Superbowl.

Ive watched the last 2 seasons and can honestlly say American Football is way
more entertaining than football.
Considering I dont have a team to support, I can watch any game as a neutral and more times than not be thoroughly entertained.

If I had the choice of watching Bolton v Man City or any NFL game -
I'd pick the latter.
So much can happen in a split second - sackings, turnovers, fumbles,amazing cathes,
vital 3rd downs - and then there's the challenges and/or referee's change of
ruling that can be pivotal in a game.

Im afraid, you dont get that drama in football (or very rarely).

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:49 am

Effes wrote:It was a magical game that Superbowl.

Ive watched the last 2 seasons and can honestlly say American Football is way
more entertaining than football.
Considering I dont have a team to support, I can watch any game as a neutral and more times than not be thoroughly entertained.

If I had the choice of watching Bolton v Man City or any NFL game -
I'd pick the latter.
So much can happen in a split second - sackings, turnovers, fumbles,amazing cathes,
vital 3rd downs - and then there's the challenges and/or referee's change of
ruling that can be pivotal in a game.

Im afraid, you dont get that drama in football (or very rarely).

I don't know if there is much coverage of it in the UK but I would HIGHLY recomend to any fan of American football OR someone interested in learning the sport to watch college football first. Although the athletes are not quite as elite across the board, but it makes the ones that will make it at the next level seem that much more dominant. The speed of the game is a little slower, but it is also much more diverse in the different styles of play similar to the differences between English, German, and Spanish football. But the main reason to watch is the passion. The passion of the crowds at colleges games is the closest thing in America to the rest of the worlds passion for their football clubs, because it is the only team that people can feel a REAL connection to because many of the players are classmates with people in the stands and when a ton of young people get together it is always exciting and the rest of the crowd is people remembering when they were at the university and all the crazy stuff they were doing. The drama is intense as well because every game means so much interms of your chances at winning the championship, and the rivalries are local so there are actually away fans and away sections which is rare in American sports.

by **Big Niall** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:40 am

I was in Washington during the summer and the pre season was starting, a friend asked if I wanted to go "tailgating" in the stadium - it sounded a bit gay, thought I'd see STan Collymore hanging around.

It was a load of pick up trucks, with beers, burgers, "chips" , sandwiches etc. Great fun. Many don't even go to the game.

Good fun those yanks sometimes.

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:02 pm

"tailgating" for the college games is a whole new level, because the place is crawling with very drunk 18-22 year old women, and there is even more incentive to not even go to the game especially if it is a night game and you have been winning the tailgating "game"

When I saw Becks play in New York for his MLS club (his first start) on the bus from manhattan I sat next to some Spurs supporters who were on holiday and they couldn't believe the parking lot and all the food and beer and I had to quickly explain to them what tailgating was and why it was neccessary.

Its a lot cheaper to build a stadium in the suburbs and its the only place where you could build a parking lot big enough to fit all 80,000+. (other than New York, pretty much everybody else drives EVERYWHERE unless its so far that you have to fly). Because of the monopoly on beer and food inside, the stadiums charge ridiculous prices, so people want to eat and drink before, but there is nothing but a massive parking lot around so people starting coming earlier and cooking on grilles and drinking beer before going in the game, once almost everyone started doing it, it has turned into more of a party type environment and people show up earlier and earlier

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:09 pm

a nice little piece on tailgating

but they try to get politcal about it towards the end, but as you can see politics is the last thing on these people's minds.

by **Big Niall** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:17 pm

JoeTerp wrote:When I saw Becks play in New York for his MLS club (his first start)

Have Americans figured out that Beckham is the Kournikova of football i.e. a good looking commercial dream but with very little actual ability but who has a marketing machine so huge behind him that people fail to really see past the emperors clothes.

Surely they wonder why "a great player" would play in a fairly amateur league?

They probably haven't heard of Ronaldo (his replacement at Manure, who is ten times the player)

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:38 pm

Depends on which Americans you talk to. It would be hard to tell them that Becks isn't very good when all he did last year was eat the league apart ( I don't think most Americans really understand how low the level is here, some think that well the better teams would have a chance to stay up in the prem while the worse teams would be competitive in the Championship, I think these people need to move the whole scale another league down. DC United, my hometown team and winningest team in MLS history just signed a pair of players from Argentina's 2nd division and they are going straight into the starting XI no questions asked.

There are a LOT of football fans that realize that he is limited in what he can offer, but he is still the best in the league by a country mile and if the Beckham brand brings more money to the league and as long as a decent chunk of that money goes into making football better in America, the "true" football fans will embrace Becks with open arms, because they know that while he isn't quite the quality that we want, possibly because of him the league could be better off in the future and there might be more football fans in the country. So bring on the marketing machine, bring on the spice girls at halftime, whatever it takes to generate the money to bring in talent over the long term

by **Big Niall** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:48 pm

Poor guys, being paid in dollars

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:01 pm

I actually think that the dollar is seriously holding back football in this country. If it were the other way around, I have no doubt that our talent would be on the level of Serie A or the Bundesliga within a couple of seasons

by **JoeTerp** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:17 pm

the last line of this article makes me want to throw up:

PHOENIX, Feb. 4 (UPI) -- The New York Giants' 17-14 upset over the New England Patriots Sunday was the most-watched game in Super Bowl history.

It also was the second most-watched program in television history, averaging 97.5 million viewers, Nielsen Media Research said Monday. The 1983 series finale of "MASH" attracted the largest TV audience ever, 106 million.

The previous record for a Super Bowl was 94.1 million, set in 1996 when 94.1 million tuned in for Super Bowl XXX, Fox Sports said in a statement.

Super Bowl XLII's total audience of 148.3 million viewers -- defined as people age 2 and over who watched all or part of the game, also set a record -- surpassing the previous high of 144.4 million viewers posted for Super Bowl XXXVIII in 2004.

"The viewership for Super Bowl XLII is nothing short of historic," said Fox Sports Chairman David Hill. "In addition to the game, which was one of the most thrilling Super Bowls ever, we're seeing bigger audiences for the pre-game and post-game, which completely validates our decision to include a greater focus on the celebrities, parties and music that surround the game."

by **dawson99** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:07 am

What got me with the superbowl was how the owners got to lift the trophy first and got to speak to the fans first. A little old family, as nice as they may be, have no right to address the fans before the team. Is that how it always is over there? OR was it because a less high profile team won?

by **JoeTerp** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:02 pm

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080204101207AAFtPQM

Since Super Bowl XXX, it is presented to the winning team's owner on the field following the game. Previously, the trophy was presented inside the winning team's locker room.

Super Bowl XXXII had a very famous presentation moment because when the owner got the trophy he held it up and said, "This One's For John" (refering to john elway and his 15 year quest to lead the broncos to the title) it was very emotional

Also, no players dream about lifting trophies, they dream about getting "the ring"

by **JoeTerp** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:14 pm

Go Cardinals!

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