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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:21 pm

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Sabre wrote:Right, thank you.

All in all, I read this forums in order basically to learn and consider other's opinions. And after having in the stomach several months the old proposal of selling Alonso (always assuming at the right price) I'm starting to think that it may be a possibility to consider, considering we don't have the financial muscle behind us that we expected from the Americans.

If that backing doesn't exist, we have to do good movements selling/buying the players. And considering we have an excellent midfielder in Mascherano, and that we need quality somewhere else, selling Alonso is one of the few possibilities that can give us the necessary money to attempt a move. Alonso, trust me on this, is the kind of player that can make a club like Madrid nuts and put on the table a silly offer like 30M + Robben and Baptista.  Know it sounds strange from where you sit, but the mentality is different, the values are different, the hype is different, the media is different.

That's the kind of operation I'd think it would be good for our club, which is the point.

Its rumoured in todays papers Xabi is on his way in the summer for £15million Sabre. I would prefer a swop deal for Aguero myself.

Which teams are interested Saint? or is the que to long to mention  :D Ill have to have a little nosey from my mate there
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Postby tubby » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:22 pm

s@int wrote:
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Sabre wrote:Right, thank you.

All in all, I read this forums in order basically to learn and consider other's opinions. And after having in the stomach several months the old proposal of selling Alonso (always assuming at the right price) I'm starting to think that it may be a possibility to consider, considering we don't have the financial muscle behind us that we expected from the Americans.

If that backing doesn't exist, we have to do good movements selling/buying the players. And considering we have an excellent midfielder in Mascherano, and that we need quality somewhere else, selling Alonso is one of the few possibilities that can give us the necessary money to attempt a move. Alonso, trust me on this, is the kind of player that can make a club like Madrid nuts and put on the table a silly offer like 30M + Robben and Baptista.  Know it sounds strange from where you sit, but the mentality is different, the values are different, the hype is different, the media is different.

That's the kind of operation I'd think it would be good for our club, which is the point.

Its rumoured in todays papers Xabi is on his way in the summer for £15million Sabre. I would prefer a swop deal for Aguero myself.

How much longer is left on Alonsos contract?

He signed a new contract at the beginning of the season so about 4.5 years I think.

Thats good, so if worst come to worst and we have to sell him then we should get the better end of the deal. I dont think he would go to Athletico so a swap + cash for Aguero wouldnt happen but I reckon we could get easily around 16Mil for him. If we do get that much it should all be spent on 1 world class player, I think either a winger striker.

The problem is we need at least 2 or 3 more world class players in the squad to really compete for next season. Kewell im sure will leave and Aurelio/Riise are not world class. Pennants ok on the right but hes not world classs.
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Postby tubby » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:26 pm

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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:28 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
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Sabre wrote:Right, thank you.

All in all, I read this forums in order basically to learn and consider other's opinions. And after having in the stomach several months the old proposal of selling Alonso (always assuming at the right price) I'm starting to think that it may be a possibility to consider, considering we don't have the financial muscle behind us that we expected from the Americans.

If that backing doesn't exist, we have to do good movements selling/buying the players. And considering we have an excellent midfielder in Mascherano, and that we need quality somewhere else, selling Alonso is one of the few possibilities that can give us the necessary money to attempt a move. Alonso, trust me on this, is the kind of player that can make a club like Madrid nuts and put on the table a silly offer like 30M + Robben and Baptista.  Know it sounds strange from where you sit, but the mentality is different, the values are different, the hype is different, the media is different.

That's the kind of operation I'd think it would be good for our club, which is the point.

Its rumoured in todays papers Xabi is on his way in the summer for £15million Sabre. I would prefer a swop deal for Aguero myself.

Which teams are interested Saint? or is the que to long to mention  :D Ill have to have a little nosey from my mate there

This is Bascombe's latest piece.

Rafa plans summer blood-letting
£40m KOP OUT FOR BENITEZ
By Chris Bascombe

RAFAEL BENITEZ'S plan to keep a grip on his Liverpool job involves a £40million summer bloodbath at Anfield.

As many as 10 players are earmarked for the cull, providing the Kop boss can convince new-owners-in-waiting DIC to give him another season to transform Liverpool's Premier League form.

Benitez's patience has finally run out with the enduring mediocrity of John Arne Riise, Peter Crouch, Harry Kewell and Andriy Voronin.

Most surprisingly, Benitez will allow Xabi Alonso to return to Spain after the midfielder fell out of favour with the boss.

Alonso signed a new long-term contract last summer and is valued at over £15m by Liverpool — but he's long attracted the interest of La Liga giants Barcelona and Real Madrid.

And the capture of Javier Mascherano on a permanent deal will keep Alonso below the Argentinian and skipper Steven Gerrard in the pecking order.

Alonso, Riise and Kewell were all left out of the Liverpool squad for Saturday's visit of Sunderland.

And although out-of-form Steve Finnan, who only recently signed a new contract, still has time to change Rafa's mind, long-serving legend Sami Hyypia is out of contract in June.

Striker Dirk Kuyt's position is under threat after a poor goal return since his £10m move from Feyenoord two years ago. Injury-prone Fabio Aurelio and calamity reserve keeper Charles Itandje are also in line for the axe.

Whether Benitez can convince his employers he's the man to lead yet another summer of rebuilding is a different matter altogether.

Chaos

Players such as Crouch were denied a January move because of the continued uncertainty surrounding the boss.

Matters off the pitch have been echoed by ongoing chaos on it — and while Benitez is inevitably making long-term plans, whether he'll be given the chance to see them through looks less certain.

A change of ownership AND manager remains more likely before the start of next season.

After admitting the plot to sack Benitez, revealed by the News of the World last November, co-owner Tom Hicks has now delivered a U-turn and promised he'll allow Benitez to see out the last two years of his contract.

However, few at Anfield believe the relationship between the Americans and Benitez is workable.

Prospective owners Dubai International Capital also recognise Benitez's popularity on The Kop and may give him a final chance — but that's not guaranteed.

Ally

The off-field political battle is crippling the club, with Hicks believing he's overcome the initial storm of protest against his leadership.

The Texan's chief ally at Anfield is commercial director Ian Ayre, who was appointed last summer with a view to eventually replacing chief executive Rick Parry.

Ayre has been briefing Hicks the fans have been won over by the recent £350m refinancing package — a claim which will be undermined by further demonstrations in the coming weeks.

The scale of the Anfield turmoil is unprecedented, but there remain hopes a DIC move will happen in ‘days rather than weeks'.

On another note its sad that that guy Ayre rather than revolutionizing our marketing as he was meant to do has merely become Hick's eyes and ears!
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Postby laza » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:41 pm

Great .......Torres wont score for a month and then be writing about a swap deal for him for Diego Forlan in the summer as well
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:46 pm

s@int wrote:On another note its sad that that guy Ayre rather than revolutionizing our marketing as he was meant to do has merely become Hick's eyes and ears!

So as well as them two snakes weve got a grass to go with them :no
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Postby tubby » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:52 pm

s@int wrote:This is Bascombe's latest piece.

Rafa plans summer blood-letting
£40m KOP OUT FOR BENITEZ
By Chris Bascombe

RAFAEL BENITEZ'S plan to keep a grip on his Liverpool job involves a £40million summer bloodbath at Anfield.

As many as 10 players are earmarked for the cull, providing the Kop boss can convince new-owners-in-waiting DIC to give him another season to transform Liverpool's Premier League form.

Hes written it as if DIC taking over is a foregone conclusion.
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Postby Toffeehater » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:52 pm

Alonso leads Kop clearout


Rafa Benitez is ready to launch a clearout at Anfield with Xabi Alonso set to leave the club.
The Liverpool manager will offload Alonso, former Southampton and Aston Villa striker Peter Crouch, ex-Leeds winger Harry Kewell and John Arne Riise and striker Andriy Voronin in the summer.

Alonso, the £15m-rated midfielder is the most high profile name on the Benitez's blacklist.

Benitez is under pressure to trim the squad and the wage bill at Anfield, especially having fallen out of the title race and League Cup so spectacularly this season.

The News of the World says Crouch could return to Aston Villa or join Portsmouth in the summer.

http://www.lep.co.uk/sport/Alonso-leads-Kop-clearout.3739241.jp
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Postby Judge » Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:02 pm

Toffeehater wrote:Alonso leads Kop clearout


Rafa Benitez is ready to launch a clearout at Anfield with Xabi Alonso set to leave the club.
The Liverpool manager will offload Alonso, former Southampton and Aston Villa striker Peter Crouch, ex-Leeds winger Harry Kewell and John Arne Riise and striker Andriy Voronin in the summer.

Alonso, the £15m-rated midfielder is the most high profile name on the Benitez's blacklist.

Benitez is under pressure to trim the squad and the wage bill at Anfield, especially having fallen out of the title race and League Cup so spectacularly this season.

The News of the World says Crouch could return to Aston Villa or join Portsmouth in the summer.

http://www.lep.co.uk/sport/Alonso-leads-Kop-clearout.3739241.jp

the news of the world is the sister paper of the rag

read the pinned topic if you are in doubt mate
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Postby Toffeehater » Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:06 pm

Judge wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:Alonso leads Kop clearout


Rafa Benitez is ready to launch a clearout at Anfield with Xabi Alonso set to leave the club.
The Liverpool manager will offload Alonso, former Southampton and Aston Villa striker Peter Crouch, ex-Leeds winger Harry Kewell and John Arne Riise and striker Andriy Voronin in the summer.

Alonso, the £15m-rated midfielder is the most high profile name on the Benitez's blacklist.

Benitez is under pressure to trim the squad and the wage bill at Anfield, especially having fallen out of the title race and League Cup so spectacularly this season.

The News of the World says Crouch could return to Aston Villa or join Portsmouth in the summer.

http://www.lep.co.uk/sport/Alonso-leads-Kop-clearout.3739241.jp

the news of the world is the sister paper of the rag

read the pinned topic if you are in doubt mate

It's just rumors mate
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:13 pm

Judge wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:Alonso leads Kop clearout


Rafa Benitez is ready to launch a clearout at Anfield with Xabi Alonso set to leave the club.
The Liverpool manager will offload Alonso, former Southampton and Aston Villa striker Peter Crouch, ex-Leeds winger Harry Kewell and John Arne Riise and striker Andriy Voronin in the summer.

Alonso, the £15m-rated midfielder is the most high profile name on the Benitez's blacklist.

Benitez is under pressure to trim the squad and the wage bill at Anfield, especially having fallen out of the title race and League Cup so spectacularly this season.

The News of the World says Crouch could return to Aston Villa or join Portsmouth in the summer.

http://www.lep.co.uk/sport/Alonso-leads-Kop-clearout.3739241.jp

the news of the world is the sister paper of the rag

read the pinned topic if you are in doubt mate

Its also the Paper that SG sold his story to!
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:37 pm

By CHRIS BASCOMBE at Anfield

WE'VE seen the manager revolting at Anfield.

The fans have been marching more than a Salvation Army band.

But as Liverpool struggle to secure the minimum acceptable requirement of Champions League qualification, are the senior players next to join the protests?

The Reds may have received a much-needed boost in their top-four quest against lowly Sunderland but the warning signs remain.

In the case of Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher, boardroom politics are secondary to the fear the clock is ticking in their bid to complete their medal collection with the title that matters most.

Even in victory, there is an inescapable feeling they are losing faith in their manager's increasingly deluded belief he will deliver it.

And the 2,000 fans who stayed behind on the Kop echoed their heroes' sentiments.

Who would blame them? They were promised an end to being surrounded by dross when Gerard Houllier was shown the exit door.

Fast forward into the fourth year of Rafa Benitez's reign, and they are choking on the history which is repeating on them.

Carragher recently quit England and ignored the advances of Fabio Capello because he accepted he was behind world class centre-back rivals Rio Ferdinand and John Terry.

Although he played a key role in this win, one can scarcely imagine his despair last night to find himself being re-accommodated at full-back at Anfield to make way for...Martin Skrtel.

The £6.5million signing's debut against Havant and Waterlooville a week ago was a late entry for a BAFTA comedy award.

But he somehow forced Benitez to shift one of the two most reliable players he has into a position he now loathes.

The Spaniard will no doubt call it a masterstroke as Carragher's dazzling run and cross on 57 minutes helped Peter Crouch lift a dire game.

But as keeper Pepe Reina ran the length of the pitch to applaud the Scouse stalwart, Carragher's reaction said it all.

He shrugged it off with his head bowed, no doubt inwardly squirming at the prospect he had inadvertently helped justify Benitez's decision.


Alienating one of your only trusted lieutenants is the equivalent of negotiating the terms of your surrender.

Benitez is not just playing with fire — he is in danger of being charged with pathological arson.

That is why it is not a good idea to take a deep breath when walking around Anfield these days.

Regardless of how Sunderland were eventually shoved aside in a vastly improved second half, there is an ashen stench in the air of a club in decay.

Such are the fans' concerns that demos against the American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett were ordered to be delayed until full-time against the Black Cats in order to ensure no distractions or excuses for the poor, pampered millionaires.

For 45 minutes, at least, such charity was pointless. On the surface, this was a good time to meet a Sunderland side fighting relegation.

But even this could be no guarantee of Liverpool's first league win of 2008.

The opening exchanges summed up Benitez's recent problems. Plentiful possession was matched by a chronic lack of creativity.

For 38 minutes, Craig Gordon might as well have taken a seat with his away fans.

That is how long it took for the Sunderland keeper to be called into action and that was an easy save after Jermaine Pennant's trickery fed Fernando Torres, who headed tamely.

At least Gerrard has been spared the indignity of being shoved from one position to another this season.

His dynamism from the middle will have earned a knowing nod of approval from visiting boss Roy Keane.

Elsewhere sideways and backward passing — often inaccurate — was the norm as Sunderland achieved the impossible given their away form.

They looked good.

With the Kop's agitation growing, Liverpool began the second half with Steve Finnan replacing Fabio Aurelio.

They had a right-back at left-back, a centre-half at right-back and a central midfielder on the left wing.

As for the strikers, they were dropping so deep they should have been wearing snorkels — showing little signs of a cure to their recent allergic reaction to shooting.

Benitez had called on Crouch to justify calls for his inclusion.

So little has Crouch been seen at Anfield in the league recently, he is in danger of being given the nickname Gillett.

He has followed a rogues' gallery of Liverpool strikers who looked good when they arrived but deteriorate the more — or in his case the less — they play.

However, his goal ratio is impressive and after heading the hosts ahead, he could have completed a six minute hat-trick.

A scissor-kick was kept out by Gordon's legs and a header needed to be cleared off the line by Phil Bardsley.

Liverpool knew they still had to kill off their opponents to avoid the late backlashes inflicted by Aston Villa and Wigan here recently.

But Keano's men had shown little attacking intent.

And when Torres was sent clear by Crouch's flicked header in the 69th minute, Benitez finally had some respite.

Gerrard wrapped it up with a penalty late on after Nyron Nosworthy felled Jermaine Pennant.

There were signs the confidence was returning as the white flags which were scattered across the pitch for much of the game were now replaced by the more dominant image of the red ones on The Kop.

Despite this much-needed win, unfortunately for Rafa the zeal for change is not just centred on the boardroom
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Postby tubby » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:54 pm

Carras played in many positions for us. I think hes even played as striker maybe?

Anyway im sure hes just glad the team won.
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:01 pm

s@int wrote:By CHRIS BASCOMBE at Anfield

WE'VE seen the manager revolting at Anfield.

The fans have been marching more than a Salvation Army band.

But as Liverpool struggle to secure the minimum acceptable requirement of Champions League qualification, are the senior players next to join the protests?

The Reds may have received a much-needed boost in their top-four quest against lowly Sunderland but the warning signs remain.

In the case of Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher, boardroom politics are secondary to the fear the clock is ticking in their bid to complete their medal collection with the title that matters most.

Even in victory, there is an inescapable feeling they are losing faith in their manager's increasingly deluded belief he will deliver it.

And the 2,000 fans who stayed behind on the Kop echoed their heroes' sentiments.

Who would blame them? They were promised an end to being surrounded by dross when Gerard Houllier was shown the exit door.

Fast forward into the fourth year of Rafa Benitez's reign, and they are choking on the history which is repeating on them.

Carragher recently quit England and ignored the advances of Fabio Capello because he accepted he was behind world class centre-back rivals Rio Ferdinand and John Terry.

Although he played a key role in this win, one can scarcely imagine his despair last night to find himself being re-accommodated at full-back at Anfield to make way for...Martin Skrtel.

The £6.5million signing's debut against Havant and Waterlooville a week ago was a late entry for a BAFTA comedy award.

But he somehow forced Benitez to shift one of the two most reliable players he has into a position he now loathes.

The Spaniard will no doubt call it a masterstroke as Carragher's dazzling run and cross on 57 minutes helped Peter Crouch lift a dire game.

But as keeper Pepe Reina ran the length of the pitch to applaud the Scouse stalwart, Carragher's reaction said it all.

He shrugged it off with his head bowed, no doubt inwardly squirming at the prospect he had inadvertently helped justify Benitez's decision.


Alienating one of your only trusted lieutenants is the equivalent of negotiating the terms of your surrender.

Benitez is not just playing with fire — he is in danger of being charged with pathological arson.

That is why it is not a good idea to take a deep breath when walking around Anfield these days.

Regardless of how Sunderland were eventually shoved aside in a vastly improved second half, there is an ashen stench in the air of a club in decay.

Such are the fans' concerns that demos against the American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett were ordered to be delayed until full-time against the Black Cats in order to ensure no distractions or excuses for the poor, pampered millionaires.

For 45 minutes, at least, such charity was pointless. On the surface, this was a good time to meet a Sunderland side fighting relegation.

But even this could be no guarantee of Liverpool's first league win of 2008.

The opening exchanges summed up Benitez's recent problems. Plentiful possession was matched by a chronic lack of creativity.

For 38 minutes, Craig Gordon might as well have taken a seat with his away fans.

That is how long it took for the Sunderland keeper to be called into action and that was an easy save after Jermaine Pennant's trickery fed Fernando Torres, who headed tamely.

At least Gerrard has been spared the indignity of being shoved from one position to another this season.

His dynamism from the middle will have earned a knowing nod of approval from visiting boss Roy Keane.

Elsewhere sideways and backward passing — often inaccurate — was the norm as Sunderland achieved the impossible given their away form.

They looked good.

With the Kop's agitation growing, Liverpool began the second half with Steve Finnan replacing Fabio Aurelio.

They had a right-back at left-back, a centre-half at right-back and a central midfielder on the left wing.

As for the strikers, they were dropping so deep they should have been wearing snorkels — showing little signs of a cure to their recent allergic reaction to shooting.

Benitez had called on Crouch to justify calls for his inclusion.

So little has Crouch been seen at Anfield in the league recently, he is in danger of being given the nickname Gillett.

He has followed a rogues' gallery of Liverpool strikers who looked good when they arrived but deteriorate the more — or in his case the less — they play.

However, his goal ratio is impressive and after heading the hosts ahead, he could have completed a six minute hat-trick.

A scissor-kick was kept out by Gordon's legs and a header needed to be cleared off the line by Phil Bardsley.

Liverpool knew they still had to kill off their opponents to avoid the late backlashes inflicted by Aston Villa and Wigan here recently.

But Keano's men had shown little attacking intent.

And when Torres was sent clear by Crouch's flicked header in the 69th minute, Benitez finally had some respite.

Gerrard wrapped it up with a penalty late on after Nyron Nosworthy felled Jermaine Pennant.

There were signs the confidence was returning as the white flags which were scattered across the pitch for much of the game were now replaced by the more dominant image of the red ones on The Kop.

Despite this much-needed win, unfortunately for Rafa the zeal for change is not just centred on the boardroom

i think thats spot on.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:06 pm

s@int wrote:By CHRIS BASCOMBE at Anfield

WE'VE seen the manager revolting at Anfield.

The fans have been marching more than a Salvation Army band.

But as Liverpool struggle to secure the minimum acceptable requirement of Champions League qualification, are the senior players next to join the protests?

The Reds may have received a much-needed boost in their top-four quest against lowly Sunderland but the warning signs remain.

In the case of Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher, boardroom politics are secondary to the fear the clock is ticking in their bid to complete their medal collection with the title that matters most.

Even in victory, there is an inescapable feeling they are losing faith in their manager's increasingly deluded belief he will deliver it.

And the 2,000 fans who stayed behind on the Kop echoed their heroes' sentiments.

Who would blame them? They were promised an end to being surrounded by dross when Gerard Houllier was shown the exit door.

Fast forward into the fourth year of Rafa Benitez's reign, and they are choking on the history which is repeating on them.

Carragher recently quit England and ignored the advances of Fabio Capello because he accepted he was behind world class centre-back rivals Rio Ferdinand and John Terry.

Although he played a key role in this win, one can scarcely imagine his despair last night to find himself being re-accommodated at full-back at Anfield to make way for...Martin Skrtel.

The £6.5million signing's debut against Havant and Waterlooville a week ago was a late entry for a BAFTA comedy award.

But he somehow forced Benitez to shift one of the two most reliable players he has into a position he now loathes.

The Spaniard will no doubt call it a masterstroke as Carragher's dazzling run and cross on 57 minutes helped Peter Crouch lift a dire game.

But as keeper Pepe Reina ran the length of the pitch to applaud the Scouse stalwart, Carragher's reaction said it all.

He shrugged it off with his head bowed, no doubt inwardly squirming at the prospect he had inadvertently helped justify Benitez's decision.


Alienating one of your only trusted lieutenants is the equivalent of negotiating the terms of your surrender.

Benitez is not just playing with fire — he is in danger of being charged with pathological arson.

That is why it is not a good idea to take a deep breath when walking around Anfield these days.

Regardless of how Sunderland were eventually shoved aside in a vastly improved second half, there is an ashen stench in the air of a club in decay.

Such are the fans' concerns that demos against the American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett were ordered to be delayed until full-time against the Black Cats in order to ensure no distractions or excuses for the poor, pampered millionaires.

For 45 minutes, at least, such charity was pointless. On the surface, this was a good time to meet a Sunderland side fighting relegation.

But even this could be no guarantee of Liverpool's first league win of 2008.

The opening exchanges summed up Benitez's recent problems. Plentiful possession was matched by a chronic lack of creativity.

For 38 minutes, Craig Gordon might as well have taken a seat with his away fans.

That is how long it took for the Sunderland keeper to be called into action and that was an easy save after Jermaine Pennant's trickery fed Fernando Torres, who headed tamely.

At least Gerrard has been spared the indignity of being shoved from one position to another this season.

His dynamism from the middle will have earned a knowing nod of approval from visiting boss Roy Keane.

Elsewhere sideways and backward passing — often inaccurate — was the norm as Sunderland achieved the impossible given their away form.

They looked good.

With the Kop's agitation growing, Liverpool began the second half with Steve Finnan replacing Fabio Aurelio.

They had a right-back at left-back, a centre-half at right-back and a central midfielder on the left wing.

As for the strikers, they were dropping so deep they should have been wearing snorkels — showing little signs of a cure to their recent allergic reaction to shooting.

Benitez had called on Crouch to justify calls for his inclusion.

So little has Crouch been seen at Anfield in the league recently, he is in danger of being given the nickname Gillett.

He has followed a rogues' gallery of Liverpool strikers who looked good when they arrived but deteriorate the more — or in his case the less — they play.

However, his goal ratio is impressive and after heading the hosts ahead, he could have completed a six minute hat-trick.

A scissor-kick was kept out by Gordon's legs and a header needed to be cleared off the line by Phil Bardsley.

Liverpool knew they still had to kill off their opponents to avoid the late backlashes inflicted by Aston Villa and Wigan here recently.

But Keano's men had shown little attacking intent.

And when Torres was sent clear by Crouch's flicked header in the 69th minute, Benitez finally had some respite.

Gerrard wrapped it up with a penalty late on after Nyron Nosworthy felled Jermaine Pennant.

There were signs the confidence was returning as the white flags which were scattered across the pitch for much of the game were now replaced by the more dominant image of the red ones on The Kop.

Despite this much-needed win, unfortunately for Rafa the zeal for change is not just centred on the boardroom

That's a very bitter artical that saint , not saying he's wrong on all points , but it stinks of someone who's a bit p!ssed at being left out of the media loop since going to the sunday scum.
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