Liverpool FC Forum

JohnBull wrote:This is really getting a bit stupid when supporters are slagged off for wanting a winning side.

I was born a red a long long time ago and I've sat through the great times and a good few sad times. I want what's best for Liverpool Football Club, not what's best for Raffa, Stevie, Torres or whoever. It is not those people who make up this club, it's the WHOLE package. Players, management, supporters, groundstaff, even the girl who makes the tea !

When I see a member of the team making no effort to respect the soul of my club and failing to learn from endless mistakes I start to get pyssed off. Raffa has not bought ONE players who has improved under his leadership, in fact the trend appears to be the opposite and those who showed promise at first were soon marked as average.
Like any team situation you are as good as your weakest link. It doesn't matter if you are setting bricks, selling ice cream or playing football, if the hardest working members of the team are having to carry the same deadwood week after week it will cause unrest.
For some reason Raffa seems to feel that it is OK for players to play themselves back into form in Premiership games. This just doesn't make sense. The game is about good habits and losing or drawing game after game is not one of them.

No matter how you feel about Raffa no one can possibly justify his team selections or some of his tactical formations. There are players being picked who I wouldn't let on the pitch with a lawnmower. Kuyt obviously cares about his performance but is shell shocked after so many nightmare games, Kewell couldn't give a F as long as he's on the money, Alonso's lost interest in making passes because he knows nothing's going to happen. You can go on and on.
I can't believe that Raffa is doing this on purpose so you are left with the conclusion that he's just not good enough to do the job.
Parry and Moores have shown their true colours and we are lumbered  with these parasites from the good old US of A who have obviously slipped a good few brown envelopes to get into this position. I feel that we'll regret that bit of skullduggery for a long time.

So there you have it Lando. I've slagged off some players, the management and the boardroom. Does that mean I'm not a Liverpool supporter ? I don't think so !
Over the years I've supported this club the bar has been raised by the team many times and there are standards we should always expect. There are some players who aspire to these heights but who are being let down by a the carpetbaggers who are along for the ride. Well I helped pay for that ride many times over and if I think someone's mugging me, I'll say so. Half of this crew will be sunnying themselves in distant lands in 10 years. Please God I'll still be here SUPPORTING MY CLUB !

Bamaga man wrote:Theres most sense as this thread goes on, nice one Lando.

Blo,ody hell weve yer been treacle i thought youd kicked the bucket

NANNY RED wrote:

Bamaga man wrote:Theres most sense as this thread goes on, nice one Lando.

Blo,ody hell weve yer been treacle i thought youd kicked the bucket

nobybob wrote:

dawson99 wrote:theres a difference between passion and delusion

You know the problem i have is with the critasism of RAFA at this particular moment as stated above. Buts lets leave that aside for the mo dawson, lets take the owner out of the equation and just deal with your sniping of rafa.

Under normal cirumstances critasism is fine , healthy even --as long as its balance but yours isnt. i have yet to hear you say anything positive about RAFA did he sudenly become a bad manager overnight. ok we are seventh in the league but in his first season here he finished in third above WENGER who is as most i think would agree a fantastic manager. Do i need to list his achievments cup wise to you fellas i dont think so.
his tactics, motivation, and other atributes must have been fine then, he must have been a great manager then shurely, so what has happen to him this year.
Well he has made mistakes we all know it, rotation for one but he has corrected that to alarge extent the backbone of the team remains  intact from game to game now. And whos to say if he had not rotated we would not be in a worse position its a possibility, all ifs and maybes.
RAFA seems to have lost the respect of some of the players here and consiquently has dificulty motivating and inspiring them, BUT that is not surprising with all the undermining sniping and speculation RAFA has had to put up with the constant talk of him going.
I do not keep going on about the CL and other cups to show what rafa has done but to show he is capable of this again in the future and given the right circumstance he could potentialy be better than he ever was in the past, but he must learn from his mistakes , and we must let him learn.

I think you must have the wrong bloke mate, Dawson only posts about 3 times a year about football and then he just confuses everyone 

nobybob wrote:ok we are seventh in the league but in his first season here he finished in third above WENGER who is as most i think would agree a fantastic manager.

s@int wrote:I think you must have the wrong bloke mate, Dawson only posts about 3 times a year about football and then he just confuses everyone