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by **Ciggy** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:30 am

Ok good result for us last nite against a mediocre team should have been 6-0. 2 crackers from SG but im not convinced, they did fall asleep again an we needed that owen sh@te yesterday like a hole in the head. Why did diao come on for baros an not pongolle????cisse didnt get much service looked like another loner in box like MO im still not conviced with baros thank god SG stayed but we cant expect him to carry us again or hell be gone in january :angry:

I got faith in the manager and cant wait for this week to be finished to see how many new players are coming in an when Mo decides what he wants to do ohhhhhhhh the pressure hurry up and sort it out Lpool we got our first PL game on sat and i was really rellishing the cisse owen up front but now we dont look near as dangerous im gettin a bit worried MO hurry up an decide so we can replace you with someone who wants to play for liverpool or have you realised your no longer god as houllier thought you was. Cant wait for saturday bring on the spurs.

RAFFA YOULL NEVER WALK ALONE

p.s we still 5 real class players
and raffas first buy joseme had a brilliant game well done lad

by **LFC #1** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:39 am

are youi basing 5 players on Owen leaving or not.

If Owen isn't leaving we need a RM desperatey, a central midfielder (Xabi Alsonso), and maybe a centre half.

If owen leaves we need another striker to replace him, which makes it 4. 5 is a bit harsh.

Team:

Dudek
Josemi/Carra
x
Hyppia
Riise
x
Gerrard
Alonso (???)
Kewell
Owen/Baros/new striker.
Cisse

with back up like Henchoz, Finnan, Diao, Pingolle etc.
good side that i think, whos would you replace as your fifth choice?

??

by **begintoend** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:43 am

Rafa claims....
He like to notice the mistakes that LFC makes.
He will work on the mistakes.
There may be as many as 15.
He will work it down to below 9.
Than, till mistakes count are at 2.
He claims that that's when he'll have a very good team.

Bet he noticed a few thriugh last night's game. 5 players way too much!
Rafa will buy one or 2 to nuetralise the weakness we had last night.

What I noticed was that the link from midfield to Strikers was somewhat not as tenacious and threatening.
The opposition seems to be able to read some of the moves we were probing at.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:44 am

Id love Ledley king i think hes a brilliant player we need the likes of a sol campbell we need at least 2 good defenders at one time we had the best defence in the prem the young hamman henchoz hypia but im afraid they are getting a bit old now even tho i think hypia is good they are no longer the best against the henrys of the world

oh and btw our midfield was class last nite first half

plus if we are competeing for everything this year CL FA cup PL we need quality on the bench as raffa believes in rotating his teams an theyd all be knackerd if they were playin 2- 3 games in a week anyway we shall see cant wait

by **woof woof !** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:58 am

Decent performance last night ,surprised at the lack of quality in the Graz team I expected much more of a fight . Our defence performed well with Carra having a particularly good game alongside Sammi and our midfield bossed the game.
Cisse didn't get to much of the ball but did display enough to suggest that there are some exciting times ahead . Baros was ? well he was Baros ,very busy one or two good touches, he even looked up once or twice but ultimately didn't really produce any real threat .
I wouldn't say we need another FIVE players as Rafa does seem prepared to introduce some of our youngsters to 1st team footy but I would go along with the signing of 3 more players . One for each department i.e. Forward ,Midfield and Defence.

by **LFC #1** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:00 am

woof woof, u still think we need another striker if Owen stays.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:00 am

Liverpool are likely to favour Fernando Morientes over Samuel Eto'o as part of any Michael Owen move to Real Madrid.

The Spanish club are prepared to pay £10m for the 24-year-old, who is now in the final 10 months of his Anfield contract having stalled over an extension for a year, plus either Eto'o or Morientes to make the eventual package worth £25m.

Benitez is a known admirer of Eto'o, having tried to take him to The Mestalla when manager of Valencia, but his availability is complicated by the fact Real Mallorca own a 50% stake in the player and Morientes would present a more natural foil to £14m Cisse.

One Bernabeu asset who is certainly of interest to the Liverpool manager is rising teenage star Juanfran.

The right-wing understudy to Luis Figo at Madrid, who made just five senior appearances last season but confirmed his promise as one of the brightest young talents in Spain, would fit Benitez's criteria as reshapes his midfield in the wake of Danny Murphy's departure to Charlton and Vladimir Smicer's long-term injury.

But with Liverpool maintaining their silence over the Owen affair as delicate negotiations continue, any additions beyond Real Sociedad's Xabi Alonso are likely to be kept on hold until the striker's future is resolved.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:05 am

Anyone just hear the news on bbc rob bonnet talkin to the echo manager bonnet said he listened to the 5 live phone in and a lot of liverpool fans were glad to see the back of owen and not that upset he might leave

by **woof woof !** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:09 am

LFC #1 wrote:woof woof, u still think we need another striker if Owen stays.

Yes,
Micheal may stay but then Baros will get "twitchy" because he will remain third choice strker and may look to move on.
Besides which,although I'm happy to see Baros given a decent run of starts he still hasn't convinced me that he can really "do the business" for us. Obviously I hope he will but I wouldn't put my money on it .

by **Boocity** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:14 am

I agree with needing 3 new players not five. Alonso, Morientes (if Owen goes) and a CH.

What I did like about last nights game is the way we defended so high up the pitch and not on the edge of our penalty area like last season. I know the competition last night was week but we did look a totally different and more confident side.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:15 am

I wouldnt bet on baros either woof dont think hes prem material

Looks to me he tries to hard at times

by **addicted norwegian** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:17 am

I do agree that Grazer looked poor yesterday, but I can`t help the feeling that our good performance made them look poorer than they really are. Even though Austria isn`t a superpower in European soccer, but I would think that comparing them with teams from Switzerland would be fair. And I suppose we all have momories of what Basel have acchieved earlier seasons.. Grazer was never allowed into the game

Btw, great watching Rafa, constantly directing the players from the sideline - I`m confident that this is a man with a masterplan, and that he will make a great effort having the players stick to the plan

by **addicted norwegian** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:19 am

Sorry guys, this shouldn`t be here should it.. Early in the morning, I guess

by **Boocity** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:24 am

I'm a big fan of baros and put last nights game down to early season lack of sharpness. I reckon Baros and Cisse will form a good understanding together.

by **woof woof !** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:47 am

addicted norwegian wrote:great watching Rafa, constantly directing the players from the sideline - I`m confident that this is a man with a masterplan, and that he will make a great effort having the players stick to the plan

Good point, it was encouraging to see our manager showing such passion . If only some of it transfers to the players it's a bonus for us.

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