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by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:01 pm

LittleHobo wrote:
RedBlood wrote:Becoz he deserves 2 c what hes buildin here through 2 the end

& he deserves a season without all the thats happenin

In rafa i trust

i trust rafa as much as i would trust lando not to eat the last pie in the fridge

WOW - you're SO original and SO funny...

I think you might be suprised to learn that I am not actually a cartoon character.

Just as I suspect you're not a homeless pygmi or a traveling dog.

But still - carry on.

by **DAV** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:03 pm

whats the point in this, comparing past managers who were a success, to one who isnt.
Dalglish Shanks and the rest all won the league title something RB will never do, hense failure, if we competed for it, it would be a start

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:06 pm

lando ive told you once if not a thousand times

get out from rafas arseee and come see liverpool f.c from a diffrent perspective

changes must be made if we dont drastically improve

no title challenge in all of rafas 4 seasons = not good enough

it wasnt good enough for houllier and it aint good enough for rafa

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:07 pm

LittleHobo wrote:i dont want us to turn into newcastle and have a new manager every week, rafa has had a fair crack at the whip, just like houllier did

4 years is a fair amount of time to at least show you are up to the job of turning us into title challengers (i dont even expect us to win it for the next 10 years) we are so behind

i just want a challenge

and rafa has failed to do that

That's it then - because you're impatient, let's sack any manager that fails to win the top league within their first 4 seasons.

Shankly would not have survived.

Ferguson, it may interest you to know, would also have been fired on account of his sh*tehawks finishing a whopping 13th in his 4th season in charge.

But you carry on believing that Rafa is :censored:

- you will anyway.

by **zarababe** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:07 pm

DAV wrote:whats the point in this, comparing past managers who were a success, to one who isnt.
Dalglish Shanks and the rest all won the league title something RB will never do, hense failure, if we competed for it, it would be a start

A manager who hasn't been successful? are ya talkin bout Evans or even Souness

you betta not be referring to our rafa there lad :no

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:07 pm

DAV wrote:whats the point in this, comparing past managers who were a success, to one who isnt.
Dalglish Shanks and the rest all won the league title something RB will never do, hense failure, if we competed for it, it would be a start

Shut up you silly tart.

How can any manager who wins the Champions' League be a failure, numbskull?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:11 pm

LittleHobo wrote:lando ive told you once if not a thousand times

get out from rafas arseee and come see liverpool f.c from a diffrent perspective

changes must be made if we dont drastically improve

no title challenge in all of rafas 4 seasons = not good enough

it wasnt good enough for houllier and it aint good enough for rafa

So because you say so, that's what I should do?

A little high and mighty, aren't we?

Perhaps I feel that Rafa is the right man for the job. Perhaps I believe in him. Perhaps I feel we owe it to a man who placed us back at the top of Europe. Perhaps I appreciate a man who is nothing but gracious.

Perhaps I will keep these opinions a little longer, if that's all the same to you?

Perhaps I don't like the idea of being a fickle little maggot who turns and runs in our manager's hour of need?

It's called "LOYALTY". Maybe you should look it up, before you sell your granny for being "too old".

by **DAV** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:11 pm

i dont like your language or attitude.
On another thread someone has just wrote "it wernt good enough for GH and it aint good enough for RB".
Yes he won us the champions league "thanks for that RB" But we have not challenged for the league title in all his years here. Going by the way we are playing this season- we wont now either. Does winning the champions league give him the right to manage our team indefinatley??

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:12 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:i dont want us to turn into newcastle and have a new manager every week, rafa has had a fair crack at the whip, just like houllier did

4 years is a fair amount of time to at least show you are up to the job of turning us into title challengers (i dont even expect us to win it for the next 10 years) we are so behind

i just want a challenge

and rafa has failed to do that

That's it then - because you're impatient, let's sack any manager that fails to win the top league within their first 4 seasons.

Shankly would not have survived.

Ferguson, it may interest you to know, would also have been fired on account of his sh*tehawks finishing a whopping 13th in his 4th season in charge.

But you carry on believing that Rafa is - you will anyway.

times have changed

expectations are diffrent

these days in any top job in football if you dont provide the goods within 4 years you will GET SACKED

champions league was great but all we wanted was the league form to improve also and that has got no better than under houllier

by **zarababe** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:12 pm

DAV wrote:i dont like your language or attitude.
On another thread someone has just wrote "it wernt good enough for GH and it aint good enough for RB".
Yes he won us the champions league "thanks for that RB" But we have not challenged for the league title in all his years here. Going by the way we are playing this season- we wont now either. Does winning the champions league give him the right to manage our team indefinatley??

bring in Big Sam this what these deserve :upside:

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:14 pm

DAV wrote:i dont like your language or attitude.
On another thread someone has just wrote "it wernt good enough for GH and it aint good enough for RB".
Yes he won us the champions league "thanks for that RB" But we have not challenged for the league title in all his years here. Going by the way we are playing this season- we wont now either. Does winning the champions league give him the right to manage our team indefinatley??

in landos world he will give rafa as much time as he wants

and if that happens all we are in for is a future of battles for 4th

we see no evidence that if rafa stays he can make us into title challengers because in the 4 years he has had money, hes had time, this is his team and we still are nowhere near

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:15 pm

DAV wrote:i dont like your language or attitude.
On another thread someone has just wrote "it wernt good enough for GH and it aint good enough for RB".
Yes he won us the champions league "thanks for that RB" But we have not challenged for the league title in all his years here. Going by the way we are playing this season- we wont now either. Does winning the champions league give him the right to manage our team indefinatley??

Well my heart bleeds for you, it really does. I didn't swear anywhere in that post.

A little precious, aren't we?

And I am not advocating that Rafa has a job for life. I am simply saying he deserves a bit of loyalty after what he's given us.

Would you give your kid up for adoption if he brought you your beer, but didn't fetch your slippers?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:16 pm

LittleHobo wrote:
DAV wrote:i dont like your language or attitude.
On another thread someone has just wrote "it wernt good enough for GH and it aint good enough for RB".
Yes he won us the champions league "thanks for that RB" But we have not challenged for the league title in all his years here. Going by the way we are playing this season- we wont now either. Does winning the champions league give him the right to manage our team indefinatley??

in landos world he will give rafa as much time as he wants

and if that happens all we are in for is a future of battles for 4th

we see no evidence that if rafa stays he can make us into title challengers because in the 4 years he has had money, hes had time, this is his team and we still are nowhere near

He has had less money than the teams that finished above us.

This is the crux of the matter.

It is also the area you anti-rafa gimps fail to acknowledge.

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:17 pm

he has spent more than wenger

similar amounts to fergie (in his 4 years here) not talking about what happend before........fact is fergie has built his team of recent time spending similar to what rafa has and rafa has built his

and less than chelsea il give you that one

by **DAV** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:18 pm

strange response. So how long do we give him?
end of season, end of contract. give him another contract?
I did the march showing my loyalty to him. But enough is enough.

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