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Postby lakes10 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:10 pm

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lakes10 wrote:What i am trying to say is that for now the owners are not going to sell, so we need to sit back and give them enough rope, as soon as they find it hard to come up with the next lot of money things might change, you never know they might sort all this money stuff out, they now have the money they were looking for, yes it sucks how they have got the money but that just what happens in Business.

No chance , don't give them a minute at all . Hound the feckers out , we don't want them now , so lets not give them any hope of feeling that they can win us over . Lets not make them feel wanted . Lets make sure that they don't think twice about selling.

then be ready for our players not to feel happy at our club, no players will to come to our club, poor results.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:31 pm

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lakes10 wrote:What i am trying to say is that for now the owners are not going to sell, so we need to sit back and give them enough rope, as soon as they find it hard to come up with the next lot of money things might change, you never know they might sort all this money stuff out, they now have the money they were looking for, yes it sucks how they have got the money but that just what happens in Business.

No chance , don't give them a minute at all . Hound the feckers out , we don't want them now , so lets not give them any hope of feeling that they can win us over . Lets not make them feel wanted . Lets make sure that they don't think twice about selling.

then be ready for our players not to feel happy at our club, no players will to come to our club, poor results.

Yeh whatever , somethings are more important mate. Obviously you don't feel the same way about the club , which is fair enough. Sometimes you've just got to make a stand , it's that important.
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:37 pm

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lakes10 wrote:What i am trying to say is that for now the owners are not going to sell, so we need to sit back and give them enough rope, as soon as they find it hard to come up with the next lot of money things might change, you never know they might sort all this money stuff out, they now have the money they were looking for, yes it sucks how they have got the money but that just what happens in Business.

No chance , don't give them a minute at all . Hound the feckers out , we don't want them now , so lets not give them any hope of feeling that they can win us over . Lets not make them feel wanted . Lets make sure that they don't think twice about selling.

then be ready for our players not to feel happy at our club, no players will to come to our club, poor results.

Yeh whatever , somethings are more important mate. Obviously you don't feel the same way about the club , which is fair enough. Sometimes you've just got to make a stand , it's that important.

thats just it mate , i do care about the club and i have had it up to here with all the bad press and :censored:. But i care about our players also and if things go this way much lomger they might start looking to leave, not one player likes playing for a club that is in turmoil.
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Postby Bad Bob » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:42 pm

lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

And, I'm sorry, but this advice to supporters about doing nothing for fear of retribution sounds exactly like the kind of thing that someone who wants shut of Rafa might suggest.  'Let's just wait things out for now and make our voices heard the next time they make a mistake' reads an awful lot like 'I don't love this guys either but at least they'll get rid of Rafa for us.'  You'll probably get your wish in the short term but at what expense to the long-term health of the club?

Fact is, these two are a cancer on the club and need to be reminded of that fact every day until they decide to up stakes and move on to their next venture.  Sitting back and hoping for the best is no longer an option.
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:46 pm

lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).


Dont forget atanytime a owners of any club that have 100% of can wrap up the Business, sell the ground to a suppermarket and sell all of the players off and keep the money the end for LIVERPOOL FC and there would be nothing we could do about it, so yes we dont keep having a go at them as Business that are not happy can find bad was to get their own back at the ones that are nasty to them.

Read my sig Lakes, thats a Hicks quote mate.
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:47 pm

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lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

And, I'm sorry, but this advice to supporters about doing nothing for fear of retribution sounds exactly like the kind of thing that someone who wants shut of Rafa might suggest.  'Let's just wait things out for now and make our voices heard the next time they make a mistake' reads an awful lot like 'I don't love this guys either but at least they'll get rid of Rafa for us.'  You'll probably get your wish in the short term but at what expense to the long-term health of the club?

Fact is, these two are a cancer on the club and need to be reminded of that fact every day until they decide to up stakes and move on to their next venture.  Sitting back and hoping for the best is no longer an option.

also the fact is , that there is nothing we can do about it, holding up a few thinngs and making some sounds dont work mate, the only thing it will do is to get on the players backs.

also the truth is if the Yanks were doing all this money stuff but had not said  the stuff about rafa half of this form would still be in love with them.

so half of this form is saying yanks out only to keep Rafa.

i must say that you are not one of the and you can see how bad this deal was to start with.
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Postby Bad Bob » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:57 pm

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lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

And, I'm sorry, but this advice to supporters about doing nothing for fear of retribution sounds exactly like the kind of thing that someone who wants shut of Rafa might suggest.  'Let's just wait things out for now and make our voices heard the next time they make a mistake' reads an awful lot like 'I don't love this guys either but at least they'll get rid of Rafa for us.'  You'll probably get your wish in the short term but at what expense to the long-term health of the club?

Fact is, these two are a cancer on the club and need to be reminded of that fact every day until they decide to up stakes and move on to their next venture.  Sitting back and hoping for the best is no longer an option.

also the fact is , that there is nothing we can do about it, holding up a few thinngs and making some sounds dont work mate, the only thing it will do is to get on the players backs.

also the truth is if the Yanks were doing all this money stuff but had not said  the stuff about rafa half of this form would still be in love with them.

so half of this form is saying yanks out only to keep Rafa.

i must say that you are not one of the and you can see how bad this deal was to start with.

In all honesty I did not say it was a bad deal from the start.  I was in the "wait and see" camp.  I've kept pretty quiet on this for some time because it wasn't clear what was happening.  People like Saint have been doing a much better job of pointing out the problems with their financing plans, so there were a few people raising alarm bells before this Klinsmann revelation.

But, you miss the point when you say that a lot of us didn't give a toss until this threat to Rafa became public.  That's true but it's not just because a lot of us rate Rafa.  That public admission by Hicks that they lined Klinsmann up to succeed Rafa is stonewall confirmation that these two have no clue about football and, even worse, have no interest in upholding Liverpool's traditions.  Whether Rafa goes as a result of this now or not, the whole incident should highlight to every Liverpool supporter that they have laid down with the devil.  If there's any hope of changing that arrangement, it needs to happen now and it needs to come from the broadest possible segment of Liverpool supporters.  The time to sit back and wait and see has gone.  The time for apathy is gone.  The time for worrying about how the players will respond to more off-field turmoil is gone.  If these two refinance in the next few weeks we're stuck with them so they need to get the message now that taking the cash and walking away is in their best interests.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:12 pm

Lakes what do you feel about Tom Hicks saying we are the same as Weetabix?
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Postby JoeTerp » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:15 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

What the :censored: is wrong with Brain McBride?
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:16 pm

JoeTerp wrote:What the :censored: is wrong with Brain McBride?

He isnt very good :D
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Postby Bad Bob » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:18 pm

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lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

What the :censored: is wrong with Brain McBride?

:D

I was going to say Alexi Lalas, mate, but I thought that was too OTT.  McBride's a tidy enough player but not Liverpool quality, that's all.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:30 pm

lakes10 wrote:
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lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

And, I'm sorry, but this advice to supporters about doing nothing for fear of retribution sounds exactly like the kind of thing that someone who wants shut of Rafa might suggest.  'Let's just wait things out for now and make our voices heard the next time they make a mistake' reads an awful lot like 'I don't love this guys either but at least they'll get rid of Rafa for us.'  You'll probably get your wish in the short term but at what expense to the long-term health of the club?

Fact is, these two are a cancer on the club and need to be reminded of that fact every day until they decide to up stakes and move on to their next venture.  Sitting back and hoping for the best is no longer an option.

also the fact is , that there is nothing we can do about it, holding up a few thinngs and making some sounds dont work mate, the only thing it will do is to get on the players backs.

also the truth is if the Yanks were doing all this money stuff but had not said  the stuff about rafa half of this form would still be in love with them.

so half of this form is saying yanks out only to keep Rafa.

i must say that you are not one of the and you can see how bad this deal was to start with.

Some people are saying yanks out ,to keep rafa, but the majority are saying yanks out , because they have dragged our club through the worlds press and made a sham of the commitment they gave (i was one that fell for there words) in the running of our club . THey have sh!t on everone from a great hieght , including yourself mate . Make no mistake about it , they will feck this club up bigstyle and noone can afford to let it happen.
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Postby Effes » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:44 pm

One thing I know for sure...

Im sick and tired of the whole thing, Ive had enough
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Postby heimdall » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:46 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
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lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

What the :censored: is wrong with Brain McBride?

:D

I was going to say Alexi Lalas, mate, but I thought that was too OTT.  McBride's a tidy enough player but not Liverpool quality, that's all.

Are you suggesting that Crouch, Kuyt or Voronin are Liverpool grade???
I get your point though, I just don't think that anything we can do will make them sell, they will only respond to economic pressure or incentives, so DIC or someone else will really have to cough up the dosh if we are to get rid of them.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:52 pm

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Bad Bob wrote:
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Bad Bob wrote:
lakes10 wrote:by the way the only way the owners will make their money back is if we get good results, so one thing they will make sure of is that we have a good team (the best team).

Just like they were making sure we had a good manager at the helm?  Feck me, Lakes, if they thought Jurgen f.ucking Klinsmann was good enough to manage the club I shudder to think what would happen if they decided to ensure that we had a "good team, the best team" post-Rafa (because that is what you're talking about).  We'd no doubt be signing Landon Donovan and Brian McBride and David Beckham and the other half dozen washed-up "soccer" players they've heard of and could just about afford.

What the :censored: is wrong with Brain McBride?

:D

I was going to say Alexi Lalas, mate, but I thought that was too OTT.  McBride's a tidy enough player but not Liverpool quality, that's all.

Are you suggesting that Crouch, Kuyt or Voronin are Liverpool grade???

Er no, I think that by mentioning McBrides name, and then that he is not good enough for Liverpool he was in fact commenting on the suitability of McBride as a Liverpool player.

If and ONLY when he mentions another players name will he or anyone else on a forum be actually talking about that person.

ITs like asking if he is condoning slavery by saying that about McBride.

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