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Postby supersub » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:32 am

Once again Sky Sports News research a statistic that makes no sense in the real world and want to present it as an amazing fact and a reason why Liverpool only lie 4th in the League, are through to the knockout stages of the Champions League and are in the 4th round of the FA Cup.
      Sky's amazing piece of info is that without Torres and Gerrard we would be 10th in the Premiership,which is pretty good going for a team of nine men.Apparently if you wiped their goals from our stats then the points tally would be affected by 7 ,leaving us on 32 points.Incredible!
    But of course they never thought to use this wonderful piece of ingenuity for the teams above us ,just to make the comparison and to give their silly statistic league a bit of credibility. So I have done it for them using their formula of removing the top two scorers from each of the teams in turn.

MANU lose Ronaldo & Tevez which in turn costs them 16 points and would put them in 9th position in todays league table.

ARSENAL lose Adebayor & Fabregas and the 20 points they secured for the Gunners meaning they would drop to 11th place in todays table.

CHELSEA lose Drogba & Lampard and like Liverpool lose 7 points but their position stays unchanged 3rd.

So in retrospect the satistics Sky have unearthed and will no doubt discuss in depth are a load of b.*ll*c*ks.Hopefully the penny will drop and the cockney researcher will be sent back to kids TV
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:47 am

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

What a stupid thing to research.
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Postby skatesy » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:51 am

So biased and one-sided.
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Postby woof woof ! » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:09 pm

Hope you've posted your "research" to sky , be interesting to see if they would acknowledge it.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:16 pm

Good job, it really shows just how low the media will go.  Do they actually think that people are so stupid that they will believe these kinds of statistics?
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Postby Forever_Red » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:30 pm

Good job, it really shows just how low the media will go.  Do they actually think that people are so stupid that they will believe these kinds of statistics?


You'd be surprised to hear some people really are that stupid
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Postby AussieKopite » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:30 pm

Where we we lie if Liverpool hadn't scored any goals?

Can someone research that? Also can someone look at the effect if Pepe Reina scored five own goals a match too..?

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Postby Forever_Red » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:31 pm

I've no doubt one of my manc friends will mention this to me, thanks for giving me my comeback btw :D
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Postby AussieKopite » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:40 pm

That's stupid analysing potential results when taking away the two best scorers of any club, even Real Madrid or Inter... I hate the media...
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Postby NiftyNeil » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:50 pm

I couldn't believe it when they showed that stat. Absolutely pointless.
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:54 pm

One amazing statistic I have found is that we lose or draw a lot more games and conceed a lot more goals when Alonso plays, than when he doesn't. Same with Gerrard, Mascherano and Torres!

For example against Luton we conceeded a goal and drew. They didn't play again for 6 days during which time we neither lost or conceeded any goals. Most of them  played again against Middlesbrough and again we conceeded drawing the game! In fact in the summer when none of them played for us we didn't lose or draw a single game.  Pretty conclusive proof that we should sell Alonso  :D
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Postby Toffeehater » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:25 pm

thx for the effort mate but this post is absoulte :censored: ,
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:37 pm

Toffeehater wrote:thx for the effort mate but this post is absoulte :censored: ,

No worries mate, as Jesus said "and some fell on stoney ground ", or maybe, pearls before swine ?  :D
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Postby stmichael » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:52 pm

I :censored: hate sky and everything about them. Why do I put money into these peoples pockets?

Keys, Gray and Shreeves are all vermin of the highest order.
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Postby Sabre » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:01 pm

It's not rocket science that the kind of things they are saying it's bóllocks. It's like saying that if yesteryear we were third without Torres, we'd be automatically first with him.

If it doesn't work one way, it doesn't work the other. Sky never seem to love us much anyway.

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Pretty conclusive proof that we should sell Alonso   



Pretty conclusive proof they'd like that we think about selling Alonso. I guess that even being worse than Mascherano (I'm generous today S@int) he'd have a place in Manchester United before guys like Carrick and people like that?

I'm sure that more than one London bástard would like us selling Gerrard, Alonso, sacking Rafa and everything. It's good for them.
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