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Leonmc0708 wrote:

redtrader74 wrote:Unfortunatly finishing strong, or not, and rotation are inseperable.

But United and Arsenal dont rotate and finish strong dont htey ?

Arrrgh fu.ck it.

s@int wrote:I am not exactly Nostradamus when it comes to predictions   

Ah all my visions of you have been shattered now with that comment i thought you was him

s@int wrote:

redtrader74 wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:

s@int wrote:The sad fact is that whether we win the CL or FA cup, this season is going to go down as a disappointing one in the league. Too much emphasis was placed on the Title and the need to make a significant challenge. When we failed to beat Wigan it felt to me as if the season was already over, and its taken me a fair while to bounce back from that result.

I think we can all see now that the real problem is that we have a decided lack of creativity up front, made worse by many of the reasons above. I still believe we are very close to being a title challenging side, but my fear is that come the summer the mancs will get the funds, while we will still be searching round the bargain basement.

Saint dont tell me your becoming one of them

Fans who are obsessed with winning the Prem

Agree with you on your other point though worried about can we compete with the funding

I very much doubt we will compete with the funding of the other two, or even Man City, i am sure we will have to sell before we buy. It might be why Rafa will be kept, advancing in the CL, getting money for points is a lot of money. IIRC the difference between first and third in the prem is not a lot.

I think we need to wait for the new stadium, hopefully a 75k+ place, (plenty of room for the prwn sandwichers and real fans)and the exploitation of our fan base to the same level as the Mancs before we will be able to have bought 2-3 £20m+ players.

The problem with that is , the mancs made almost £100million in pre tax profit but had to pay 40+million in interest rates. This in a season where they won the league, reached the FA CUP FINAL and the semi's of the CL.

LFC2007 wrote:

s@int wrote:

redtrader74 wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:

s@int wrote:The sad fact is that whether we win the CL or FA cup, this season is going to go down as a disappointing one in the league. Too much emphasis was placed on the Title and the need to make a significant challenge. When we failed to beat Wigan it felt to me as if the season was already over, and its taken me a fair while to bounce back from that result.

I think we can all see now that the real problem is that we have a decided lack of creativity up front, made worse by many of the reasons above. I still believe we are very close to being a title challenging side, but my fear is that come the summer the mancs will get the funds, while we will still be searching round the bargain basement.

Saint dont tell me your becoming one of them

Fans who are obsessed with winning the Prem

Agree with you on your other point though worried about can we compete with the funding

I very much doubt we will compete with the funding of the other two, or even Man City, i am sure we will have to sell before we buy. It might be why Rafa will be kept, advancing in the CL, getting money for points is a lot of money. IIRC the difference between first and third in the prem is not a lot.

I think we need to wait for the new stadium, hopefully a 75k+ place, (plenty of room for the prwn sandwichers and real fans)and the exploitation of our fan base to the same level as the Mancs before we will be able to have bought 2-3 £20m+ players.

The problem with that is , the mancs made almost £100million in pre tax profit but had to pay 40+million in interest rates. This in a season where they won the league, reached the FA CUP FINAL and the semi's of the CL.

I read that their pre-tax profits were £59.6m.

Yes - there pre-tax profits were £59m or so but they are servicing debt of over £600m so any profit is wiped out paying the interest (£50m+) on those loans...they are effectively breaking even year on year! That is with them winning the league and also going far in the CL.

What worries me is if we go down the same route with Hicks and Gillette whereby they borrow against the ongoing turnover and and profit of the club then we simply HAVE TOO win the league and/or CL year on year too ensure we are not going further and further into debt!

I know some of you will baulk at this but we need too look at the Man Utd (business) model and try to duplicate that at Liverpool. Hicks and Gillette are smart business men will no doubt be looking at all of this. We need too look at ways too move into new markets (US, Asia and Africa) and make Liverpool a bigger global brand than it is.

Buy a top Japanese/Chinese player, they are idolised in that part of the world, have (signing) him sell tons of LFC merchandise in those countries and there you have it - a new revenue stream  . Same in America (although not sure how many top players there are across the pond that could cope with the EPL!!

In the SPL Celtic have done that with Nakamura and are about too do it with another young Jap called Mizuno. man Utd have done it too a certain degree with Sun Ji Park.