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Jurgen Klinsmann casts shadow on Benitez
By Steve Wilson
Last Updated: 7:54am GMT 08/01/2008
As the pressure on Rafael Benitez continues to grow former Germany manager Jurgen Klinsmann has emerged as the front runner to replace him should his time at Anfield be brought to an end.
Liverpool's American owners, George Gillett and Tom Hicks meet today to try and sort out issues relating to club finances, in particular the new stadium and a possible refinancing of loans taken out to buy the club last year.
Waiting game: Klinsmann is ready should the Liverpool manager's job become vacant
But also on the agenda will be Benitez's future, with recent form leading to a decision needing to be made whether to back the Spaniard with funds to ensure Champions League football next season or make a change.
Slovakia international Martin Skrtel is poised to become the most expensive defender in the club's history when he completes a £7 million move from Zenit St Petersburg today suggesting Hicks and Gillett may have be sensitive to Benitez's wishes to improve his squad.
However, Gillett in particular is a known admirer of Klinsmann and the continued fractious relations between Benitez and his bosses may come to a head in the summer, if not before.
The owners would face a potential backlash from Liverpool fans who support Benitez.
Klinsmann has been out of football for the past 18 months after leaving his post as national team boss after the 2006 World Cup in Germany.
The former Spurs striker, who rejuvenated Germany for a tournament they had been widely predicted to struggle in and took them to the semi-finals playing a youthful brand of attacking football.
He was interested in the recently vacant England job and is reported to be equally interested in the Liverpool job, should it become available.
Also this on top of setanta saying he has been spotting in uk.
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by Emerald Red » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:57 pm
LFC2007 wrote:s@int wrote:It is not clear whether Liverpool have a serious interest in Klinsmann or if the 43-year-old would be prepared to turn his back on his life in California, where he works as vice-president for Soccer Solutions, a consultancy firm, but there have been indications from Germany that he is eager to return to management in Europe.
Soccer solutions?He can fuckin stay there.
Yeah, I wonder if the Yanks are thinking of replacing Rafa because he works for a company with both soccer and solutions in the name.
Honestly, I'd love to shoot any journalist that writes this bollox as if there was any sort of truth in it. But if there is any truth in it, then both G&H should both eat a bullet themselves.
The day Klinsmann joins Liverpool as a manager, will be the day we become the likes of Newcastle, Spurs, Villa etc etc.
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Government yes to Liverpool stadium plan
Jan 8 2008 Nick Coligan Liverpool Echo
LIVERPOOL FC were today told the stadium plan they shelved last month could be built on Stanley Park.
Government minister Hazel Blears confirmed she would not “call in” the futuristic proposal approved by councillors last year for further investigation.
But her decision came three weeks after the club’s American owners ditched the scheme because costs had spiralled to more than £400m.
George Gillett and Tom Hicks ordered a redesign of the club’s original ground scheme after taking over at Anfield last year.
The second plan was approved by the council, but it had to be rubber-stamped by the government before work could start.
Liverpool’s latest ground proposals - the third to be drawn up in four years - are being presented to Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry and club owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks in New York tonight. JAN 8
In a letter to the council, Ms Blears said the second plan, which included the Anfield Plaza development on the current stadium site, did not meet the criteria for a call-in.
She said: “Local planning authorities are normally best placed to make decisions relating to their areas.
“It is right that in general, they should be free to carry out their duties responsibly, with the minimum of interference.”
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Typical of government, three weeks after the new design was cancelled they approve it
Jan 8 2008 Nick Coligan Liverpool Echo
LIVERPOOL FC were today told the stadium plan they shelved last month could be built on Stanley Park.
Government minister Hazel Blears confirmed she would not “call in” the futuristic proposal approved by councillors last year for further investigation.
But her decision came three weeks after the club’s American owners ditched the scheme because costs had spiralled to more than £400m.
George Gillett and Tom Hicks ordered a redesign of the club’s original ground scheme after taking over at Anfield last year.
The second plan was approved by the council, but it had to be rubber-stamped by the government before work could start.
Liverpool’s latest ground proposals - the third to be drawn up in four years - are being presented to Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry and club owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks in New York tonight. JAN 8
In a letter to the council, Ms Blears said the second plan, which included the Anfield Plaza development on the current stadium site, did not meet the criteria for a call-in.
She said: “Local planning authorities are normally best placed to make decisions relating to their areas.
“It is right that in general, they should be free to carry out their duties responsibly, with the minimum of interference.”
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Typical of government, three weeks after the new design was cancelled they approve it
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by RUSHIE#9 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:15 pm
s@int wrote:Government yes to Liverpool stadium plan
Jan 8 2008 Nick Coligan Liverpool Echo
LIVERPOOL FC were today told the stadium plan they shelved last month could be built on Stanley Park.
Government minister Hazel Blears confirmed she would not “call in” the futuristic proposal approved by councillors last year for further investigation.
But her decision came three weeks after the club’s American owners ditched the scheme because costs had spiralled to more than £400m.
George Gillett and Tom Hicks ordered a redesign of the club’s original ground scheme after taking over at Anfield last year.
The second plan was approved by the council, but it had to be rubber-stamped by the government before work could start.
Liverpool’s latest ground proposals - the third to be drawn up in four years - are being presented to Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry and club owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks in New York tonight. JAN 8
In a letter to the council, Ms Blears said the second plan, which included the Anfield Plaza development on the current stadium site, did not meet the criteria for a call-in.
She said: “Local planning authorities are normally best placed to make decisions relating to their areas.
“It is right that in general, they should be free to carry out their duties responsibly, with the minimum of interference.”
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Typical of government, three weeks after the new design was cancelled they approve it
They're probably still trying to decide whether or not to call in Everton's plans for the Kings Dock.
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EXCLUSIVE by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo
RAFA BENITEZ today moved to quell speculation that he feels he is a "dead man walking" at Anfield.
In an unprecedented move, the Liverpool manager has lifted the lid on conversations he had with sections of the media which he believes lies behind the upsurge in speculation about his future at the weekend.
Benitez says he was forced into taking such an unusual step because he wants his thoughts to be made a matter of public record so the Liverpool fans can know exactly what he is thinking without fear of misinterpretation.
A clearly upset Benitez told the ECHO: "I was shocked when I was told about the stories in the Sunday papers and when I saw them for myself I was even more surprised.
"I don't know how many times I have to say I only see my future at Liverpool Football Club before certain people believe me.
"But I will say it again because it is really important that everyone understands this – I love the club, I love the fans, I love the city and I am very, very happy here.
"I do not see my future at Real Madrid or Inter Milan or anywhere else. I see my future at Liverpool and this is where I want to stay.
"So to see my name linked with other clubs in such a manner, as it was in certain Sunday newspapers, really disappoints me.
"And the fact that the newspapers said that the stories had come from a source close to me is what disappoints me most."
Benitez believes the stories which appeared in several Sunday newspapers stemmed from a private conversation he had with a group of journalists following the regular weekly press conference at Melwood ahead of the weekend's FA Cup tie at Luton.
But he remains adamant that the stories which appeared following Friday's briefing bear little relation to the conversation which took place.
"I was asked several questions about my future," he said.
"I answered honestly, saying that there had been misunderstandings in the past but they are now in the past and that I am now working very well with the club's owners and Rick Parry and we all have the same objective – to do our very best for Liverpool Football Club.
"Then, just a couple of days later, I see quotes that are supposed to have come from me or from a friend of mine saying I don't see my future at Liverpool.
"All I can say is no such quotes came from me and I know my friends well enough to know that they did not come from them.
"So I can only assume that the conversation I had with the journalists from the Sunday newspapers meant something different to them than it did to me. But they were not my words.
"That is why I am speaking to the ECHO, I want to clear up any confusion and put my side of the story."
As speculation about his future reaches fever pitch Benitez knows his position as Liverpool manager will continue to come under intense scrutiny if results do not pick up.
But he still believes the squad he has assembled will continue to improve – and he also believes it will happen under his stewardship.
"I want to completely commit myself to Liverpool Football Club," he said.
"I do not see my future anywhere else because I do not want to go anywhere else.
"I want to win trophies for my club, for our fans and for the people and I still believe we can do this.
"I think back to the Champions League Final in Istanbul, to the FA Cup Final in Cardiff, to the Super Cup Final in Monaco and so many other great occasions and I know just what this great club is capable of.
"The backing of the supporters has been fantastic. As I walked onto the pitch at Luton on Sunday the fans were singing my name and that means so much to me.
"That is why I want to achieve even more success and I believe we can do that.
"There has been so much improvement here over the last couple of seasons and I believe there is still a lot more to come.
The squad is now the best it has been since I first came here and we have many young players who are only going to get better.
"So I have no wish to be at any other club. This is a truly special club which means so much to me.
"All I can say is that I want to be here this summer and many other summers after that."
Hopefully the start of better more optimistic news reports than all the worrying doom and gloom we have been reading for the last few months.
RAFA BENITEZ today moved to quell speculation that he feels he is a "dead man walking" at Anfield.
In an unprecedented move, the Liverpool manager has lifted the lid on conversations he had with sections of the media which he believes lies behind the upsurge in speculation about his future at the weekend.
Benitez says he was forced into taking such an unusual step because he wants his thoughts to be made a matter of public record so the Liverpool fans can know exactly what he is thinking without fear of misinterpretation.
A clearly upset Benitez told the ECHO: "I was shocked when I was told about the stories in the Sunday papers and when I saw them for myself I was even more surprised.
"I don't know how many times I have to say I only see my future at Liverpool Football Club before certain people believe me.
"But I will say it again because it is really important that everyone understands this – I love the club, I love the fans, I love the city and I am very, very happy here.
"I do not see my future at Real Madrid or Inter Milan or anywhere else. I see my future at Liverpool and this is where I want to stay.
"So to see my name linked with other clubs in such a manner, as it was in certain Sunday newspapers, really disappoints me.
"And the fact that the newspapers said that the stories had come from a source close to me is what disappoints me most."
Benitez believes the stories which appeared in several Sunday newspapers stemmed from a private conversation he had with a group of journalists following the regular weekly press conference at Melwood ahead of the weekend's FA Cup tie at Luton.
But he remains adamant that the stories which appeared following Friday's briefing bear little relation to the conversation which took place.
"I was asked several questions about my future," he said.
"I answered honestly, saying that there had been misunderstandings in the past but they are now in the past and that I am now working very well with the club's owners and Rick Parry and we all have the same objective – to do our very best for Liverpool Football Club.
"Then, just a couple of days later, I see quotes that are supposed to have come from me or from a friend of mine saying I don't see my future at Liverpool.
"All I can say is no such quotes came from me and I know my friends well enough to know that they did not come from them.
"So I can only assume that the conversation I had with the journalists from the Sunday newspapers meant something different to them than it did to me. But they were not my words.
"That is why I am speaking to the ECHO, I want to clear up any confusion and put my side of the story."
As speculation about his future reaches fever pitch Benitez knows his position as Liverpool manager will continue to come under intense scrutiny if results do not pick up.
But he still believes the squad he has assembled will continue to improve – and he also believes it will happen under his stewardship.
"I want to completely commit myself to Liverpool Football Club," he said.
"I do not see my future anywhere else because I do not want to go anywhere else.
"I want to win trophies for my club, for our fans and for the people and I still believe we can do this.
"I think back to the Champions League Final in Istanbul, to the FA Cup Final in Cardiff, to the Super Cup Final in Monaco and so many other great occasions and I know just what this great club is capable of.
"The backing of the supporters has been fantastic. As I walked onto the pitch at Luton on Sunday the fans were singing my name and that means so much to me.
"That is why I want to achieve even more success and I believe we can do that.
"There has been so much improvement here over the last couple of seasons and I believe there is still a lot more to come.
The squad is now the best it has been since I first came here and we have many young players who are only going to get better.
"So I have no wish to be at any other club. This is a truly special club which means so much to me.
"All I can say is that I want to be here this summer and many other summers after that."
Hopefully the start of better more optimistic news reports than all the worrying doom and gloom we have been reading for the last few months.
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by Sabre » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:37 pm
"And the fact that the newspapers said that the stories had come from a source close to me is what disappoints me most."
White liquid in a bottle, it has to be milk.
It's obvious to me that the press has been making mountains out of a heap of sand. They've exagerated, they've speculated, and of course they've lied, with sentences that start with "Close sources to", "It's understood that", and "Reports suggest that".
Let's focus on the manager's job. Let's admit the team is not playing well, and let's demand an improvement commenting the mistakes, but we shouldn't hear to this stories.
BTW, I'm preparing to request some help to you mates. To my dismay, every time I read MARCA I see how they quote the rag, or their satellite papers. I'd like to make a request to Marca, with my real name and national identity number, and I'd like you and the Spanish visitors sign it. I simply find unacceptable and painful that MARCA gives information of Liverpool to houndred of thousands of Spaniards (1) quoting those miserable journos that talk negatively about us and have a disgraceful history with Liverpool, they have a lot of papers to quote from, but they choose always the same ones because their headlines are tasty, the last one was the "dead man walking" (muerto viviente).
As soon as I have prepared it, I'll show to you. I'll send it anyway, but I think it will be a stronger request with your help.
(1) For instansce Benitez related article was the fifth most read news in Marca yesterday, including the local news.
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by HacksawJimDuggin » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:21 pm
That's great news.
I am glad Rafa has come out and put this too bed. Hopefully he can get on with his job now and get us back on track this season.
I am glad Rafa has come out and put this too bed. Hopefully he can get on with his job now and get us back on track this season.
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by KOPMATT » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:53 pm
Emerald Red wrote:LFC2007 wrote:s@int wrote:It is not clear whether Liverpool have a serious interest in Klinsmann or if the 43-year-old would be prepared to turn his back on his life in California, where he works as vice-president for Soccer Solutions, a consultancy firm, but there have been indications from Germany that he is eager to return to management in Europe.
Soccer solutions?
Yeah, I wonder if the Yanks are thinking of replacing Rafa because he works for a company with both soccer and solutions in the name.
Honestly, I'd love to shoot any journalist that writes this bollox as if there was any sort of truth in it. But if there is any truth in it, then both G&H should both eat a bullet themselves.
The day Klinsmann joins Liverpool as a manager, will be the day we become the likes of Newcastle, Spurs, Villa etc etc.
I hope all the talk about Klinnsman is bollox as it would be a travesty if he became our manager!!!
I want Rafa to stay and all this talk in the press is getting me down!
Even Bascombe(ex Kop editor) is writing along the same lines in the News Of The World!!! Does he have inside info??
Adding to this it's making Liverpool, our club that we love look complete and utter fools that I cannot stand for and wish there was something I could do? I'd bloody email them Yanks and tell em so too if i could!!!
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by KOPMATT » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:55 pm
s@int wrote:EXCLUSIVE by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo
RAFA BENITEZ today moved to quell speculation that he feels he is a "dead man walking" at Anfield.
In an unprecedented move, the Liverpool manager has lifted the lid on conversations he had with sections of the media which he believes lies behind the upsurge in speculation about his future at the weekend.
Benitez says he was forced into taking such an unusual step because he wants his thoughts to be made a matter of public record so the Liverpool fans can know exactly what he is thinking without fear of misinterpretation.
A clearly upset Benitez told the ECHO: "I was shocked when I was told about the stories in the Sunday papers and when I saw them for myself I was even more surprised.
"I don't know how many times I have to say I only see my future at Liverpool Football Club before certain people believe me.
"But I will say it again because it is really important that everyone understands this – I love the club, I love the fans, I love the city and I am very, very happy here.
"I do not see my future at Real Madrid or Inter Milan or anywhere else. I see my future at Liverpool and this is where I want to stay.
"So to see my name linked with other clubs in such a manner, as it was in certain Sunday newspapers, really disappoints me.
"And the fact that the newspapers said that the stories had come from a source close to me is what disappoints me most."
Benitez believes the stories which appeared in several Sunday newspapers stemmed from a private conversation he had with a group of journalists following the regular weekly press conference at Melwood ahead of the weekend's FA Cup tie at Luton.
But he remains adamant that the stories which appeared following Friday's briefing bear little relation to the conversation which took place.
"I was asked several questions about my future," he said.
"I answered honestly, saying that there had been misunderstandings in the past but they are now in the past and that I am now working very well with the club's owners and Rick Parry and we all have the same objective – to do our very best for Liverpool Football Club.
"Then, just a couple of days later, I see quotes that are supposed to have come from me or from a friend of mine saying I don't see my future at Liverpool.
"All I can say is no such quotes came from me and I know my friends well enough to know that they did not come from them.
"So I can only assume that the conversation I had with the journalists from the Sunday newspapers meant something different to them than it did to me. But they were not my words.
"That is why I am speaking to the ECHO, I want to clear up any confusion and put my side of the story."
As speculation about his future reaches fever pitch Benitez knows his position as Liverpool manager will continue to come under intense scrutiny if results do not pick up.
But he still believes the squad he has assembled will continue to improve – and he also believes it will happen under his stewardship.
"I want to completely commit myself to Liverpool Football Club," he said.
"I do not see my future anywhere else because I do not want to go anywhere else.
"I want to win trophies for my club, for our fans and for the people and I still believe we can do this.
"I think back to the Champions League Final in Istanbul, to the FA Cup Final in Cardiff, to the Super Cup Final in Monaco and so many other great occasions and I know just what this great club is capable of.
"The backing of the supporters has been fantastic. As I walked onto the pitch at Luton on Sunday the fans were singing my name and that means so much to me.
"That is why I want to achieve even more success and I believe we can do that.
"There has been so much improvement here over the last couple of seasons and I believe there is still a lot more to come.
The squad is now the best it has been since I first came here and we have many young players who are only going to get better.
"So I have no wish to be at any other club. This is a truly special club which means so much to me.
"All I can say is that I want to be here this summer and many other summers after that."
Hopefully the start of better more optimistic news reports than all the worrying doom and gloom we have been reading for the last few months.
Thanx for that Saint or should i say Rafa!?
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by zarababe » Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:33 pm
Good to read that but there are more stories in the paper re: Boss leaving and Klinsman being lined-up - 
KLINSMANN 
- what are these yanksys up to - more support for the boss needed this is silly, even if their isn't an agenda the press are gonna hound Benitez out 
I firmly belive there is a campaign in the press to houd Rafa out !
KLINSMANN - what are these yanksys up to - more support for the boss needed this is silly, even if their isn't an agenda the press are gonna hound Benitez out I firmly belive there is a campaign in the press to houd Rafa out !THE BRENDAN REVOLUTION IS UPON US !
KING KENNY.. Always LEGEND !
RAFA.. MADE THE PEOPLE HAPPY !
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KING KENNY.. Always LEGEND !
RAFA.. MADE THE PEOPLE HAPPY !
Miss YOU Phil-Drummer - RIP YNWA
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by imouthep » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:05 pm
It honestly disgusts me that the press has it out for Rafael Benitez. It really does feel like there is a negative agenda when it comes to liverpool football club. Maybe the fact that we are the most decorated club in England has everyone rubbed up the wrong way.
I think that Rafa honestly just needs time. We have been winning trophies and improving, in his short tenure he is quickly learning about the english game. I think with a little more backing he could achieve wonders for us and will bring us the "holy grail", but it will take some time. I am not one of those Rafa never does anything wrong kind of people and I will voice my concerns, critisize and complain. This club is tatooed on my soul for pete's sake. But I have never doubted that Rafa is the man for us and I will defend him to the hills. So f**k sky, the sun and anybody else who keeps reporting cr*p about this club go and kiss Fergie's
or something.
YWNWA
I think that Rafa honestly just needs time. We have been winning trophies and improving, in his short tenure he is quickly learning about the english game. I think with a little more backing he could achieve wonders for us and will bring us the "holy grail", but it will take some time. I am not one of those Rafa never does anything wrong kind of people and I will voice my concerns, critisize and complain. This club is tatooed on my soul for pete's sake. But I have never doubted that Rafa is the man for us and I will defend him to the hills. So f**k sky, the sun and anybody else who keeps reporting cr*p about this club go and kiss Fergie's
or something.YWNWA
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by maguskwt » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:24 pm
I've already said again and again that Rafa should be given 2 more seasons to prove himself. This makes me probably one of the staunchest supporters of rafa on this forum... as even most of his supporters on here were only willing to say 1 more season.
Having said that, the prejudice on here against Klinsmann is really laughable. He single handedly revolutionalized the German national team from a boring long ball team to a team that can go toe to toe against argentina and italy and comfortably beat portugal. He has time and again proven his critics wrong whether he was as a player at spurs where he won the footballer of the year or whether he was the national coach of Germany where even the Kaiser, his staunchest critic, asked him to stay on as Germany coach. Pointing out that he doesn't have club experience is understandable.... but criticising him for being a diver and other ridiculous claims is laughable. Pls study how germany played before he took over and how they played at the world cup. I don't believe one can be as narrow-minded as this... I for one would want klinsmann instead of mourinho... I can never accept someone who treated Liverpool FC with disdain as our manager... that mourinho basically thought that LFC is I can never accept him.... especially not if he comes in and now say how what he said against LFC was just because of competition or something...
Having said that, the prejudice on here against Klinsmann is really laughable. He single handedly revolutionalized the German national team from a boring long ball team to a team that can go toe to toe against argentina and italy and comfortably beat portugal. He has time and again proven his critics wrong whether he was as a player at spurs where he won the footballer of the year or whether he was the national coach of Germany where even the Kaiser, his staunchest critic, asked him to stay on as Germany coach. Pointing out that he doesn't have club experience is understandable.... but criticising him for being a diver and other ridiculous claims is laughable. Pls study how germany played before he took over and how they played at the world cup. I don't believe one can be as narrow-minded as this... I for one would want klinsmann instead of mourinho... I can never accept someone who treated Liverpool FC with disdain as our manager... that mourinho basically thought that LFC is
I can never accept him.... especially not if he comes in and now say how what he said against LFC was just because of competition or something...
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