Owzat wrote:Anyone know much about all this gate receipt business? I looked on the LFC website and couldn't see any comment, Liverpool are getting slated by most people and when I did a google search for some kind of official line I found mancs are having a field day
http://www.forevermanutd.com/forum....y133647
This, if true, has to be a decision made by either the owners or someone like Rick Parry. I could understand it to a degree, that it is Luton's problem and they were getting TV money out of it. However the reason I'd simply give them the money is for the club image and the damage not doing so is doing.
Owzat wrote:Anyone know much about all this gate receipt business? I looked on the LFC website and couldn't see any comment, Liverpool are getting slated by most people and when I did a google search for some kind of official line I found mancs are having a field day
http://www.forevermanutd.com/forum....y133647
This, if true, has to be a decision made by either the owners or someone like Rick Parry. I could understand it to a degree, that it is Luton's problem and they were getting TV money out of it. However the reason I'd simply give them the money is for the club image and the damage not doing so is doing.
redtrader74 wrote:Owzat wrote:Anyone know much about all this gate receipt business? I looked on the LFC website and couldn't see any comment, Liverpool are getting slated by most people and when I did a google search for some kind of official line I found mancs are having a field day
http://www.forevermanutd.com/forum....y133647
This, if true, has to be a decision made by either the owners or someone like Rick Parry. I could understand it to a degree, that it is Luton's problem and they were getting TV money out of it. However the reason I'd simply give them the money is for the club image and the damage not doing so is doing.
I coildn't care less, they have a replay and the money from that will outweigh whatever they wanted from Saturday. If the footballing world is so concerned its quite simple, bail Luton out collectively, its not LFC's responsibilty solely because we happen to have played them. Infact i believe bailing out is irresponsible in any case, it gives other Clubs a get out clause for mis-management. FFS mange your finances correctly.
Owzat wrote:redtrader74 wrote:Owzat wrote:Anyone know much about all this gate receipt business? I looked on the LFC website and couldn't see any comment, Liverpool are getting slated by most people and when I did a google search for some kind of official line I found mancs are having a field day
http://www.forevermanutd.com/forum....y133647
This, if true, has to be a decision made by either the owners or someone like Rick Parry. I could understand it to a degree, that it is Luton's problem and they were getting TV money out of it. However the reason I'd simply give them the money is for the club image and the damage not doing so is doing.
I coildn't care less, they have a replay and the money from that will outweigh whatever they wanted from Saturday. If the footballing world is so concerned its quite simple, bail Luton out collectively, its not LFC's responsibilty solely because we happen to have played them. Infact i believe bailing out is irresponsible in any case, it gives other Clubs a get out clause for mis-management. FFS mange your finances correctly.
I tried putting across the financial common sense perspective to a couple of colleagues, but because clubs have bailed out smaller clubs in the past it's almost unthinkable not to - in the views of some people. But in truth for the minimal amount of money we'd make from their gate receipts it probably wasn't worth the grief, I agree that Luton are in a hole because of their own doing and rescuing them isn't our problem. Do every team they ever play give them donations and the money from gate receipts? The manc website mentions Bury, how come they don't have whip rounds at every game for clubs in dire straits? And if it were a company and not a football club would people be so generous? I doubt it, dog eat dog except for football apparently.
But at the end of the day we're the one's who have to 'live it down', decisions made by the owners. Like one fan who says Liverpool will win the league on a general forum or on teletext and apparently ALL Liverpool fans are tarred with the same brush. You can't say about the replay, at the time I doubt those that made the decision expected anything but a cushy win.
And another thing, Leeds and Ken Bates wriggled their way out of paying off their debts by agreeing a pitiful 8p in the pound or something that ridiculous. So they borrow £60m to buy success, or so they thought, and their wasteful spending, mismanagement and stupidity put them in debt. Few fans sympathise with them because of the high profile of that stupid move, clubs don't just end up in sh1t because it just happens. Funny how many clubs stay solvent, the minute one doesn't people take pity.
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Absolute SHAMBLES, that was LFC's team performance against Luton, Liverpool was outplayed by Luton, and if Luton had a good finisher, they would have won by at least 3-1 if not 4-1.
Liverpool is in deep trouble, there was no team moral, no passing, no confidence at all, just 11 players do not have a faith in each other, totally disjointed no playing strategy, just long balls, Wimbledon style of play, THIS Benitez style the most negative manager that LFC ever had, he is an absolute idiot, he is destroying LFC.
If a club like LFC, have 60 players on their book, but can not produce a top wining team week in week out, then THERE IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE CLUB'S MANAGER !!!!!!!!!. Benitez, is finished, and I sincerely hope we can get rid of him now, because, he will cause more harm by staying in charge any longer, so far he has destroyed the club, spend too much money of worthless players the likes of Voronin, Kuyt, who both should dropped from first team totally, and put up for sale, and drop their wages, we have many others the those two donkeys who can't score with just the keeper to beat, they can go to their own countries and be top stars as they like.
LFC do need a good British manager, I do want to name one, but there are few good one around, and from old Liverpool players. LFC used produce so many good players, but since Houlier and this idiot Benitez, LFC, became a top buying club of a most and very average foreign players, while we pushing out and neglecting our youth policy. Every year LFC is dropping back behind Man. utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, and others up coming clubs in this league.
I think all the faithful fans should raise their voices and demand a immediate change, by bringing a manager from one of Liverpool old players and must be British, we had enough of second standard foreign manages, they only brought short successes, but long term damage to LFC, lowering the standard, made the club lose al it wealth, by paying top wages to below average players the likes, of Voronin,Kuyt, Kewell, Leto, Aurelio, and some many others I can even remember their names.
It is time for change, we already lost the league, but not in idiot Benitez eyes, because, he want to keep his position and his reputation, because if get the sack from LFC, it will harm his reputation, and make hard for him to land a top job like this one.
He must be replaced at once.
stmichael Posted on Jan. 07 2008,15:58
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Absolute SHAMBLES, that was LFC's team performance against Luton, Liverpool was outplayed by Luton, and if Luton had a good finisher, they would have won by at least 3-1 if not 4-1.
Liverpool is in deep trouble, there was no team moral, no passing, no confidence at all, just 11 players do not have a faith in each other, totally disjointed no playing strategy, just long balls, Wimbledon style of play, THIS Benitez style the most negative manager that LFC ever had, he is an absolute idiot, he is destroying LFC.
If a club like LFC, have 60 players on their book, but can not produce a top wining team week in week out, then THERE IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE CLUB'S MANAGER !!!!!!!!!. Benitez, is finished, and I sincerely hope we can get rid of him now, because, he will cause more harm by staying in charge any longer, so far he has destroyed the club, spend too much money of worthless players the likes of Voronin, Kuyt, who both should dropped from first team totally, and put up for sale, and drop their wages, we have many others the those two donkeys who can't score with just the keeper to beat, they can go to their own countries and be top stars as they like.
LFC do need a good British manager, I do want to name one, but there are few good one around, and from old Liverpool players. LFC used produce so many good players, but since Houlier and this idiot Benitez, LFC, became a top buying club of a most and very average foreign players, while we pushing out and neglecting our youth policy. Every year LFC is dropping back behind Man. utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, and others up coming clubs in this league.
I think all the faithful fans should raise their voices and demand a immediate change, by bringing a manager from one of Liverpool old players and must be British, we had enough of second standard foreign manages, they only brought short successes, but long term damage to LFC, lowering the standard, made the club lose al it wealth, by paying top wages to below average players the likes, of Voronin,Kuyt, Kewell, Leto, Aurelio, and some many others I can even remember their names.
It is time for change, we already lost the league, but not in idiot Benitez eyes, because, he want to keep his position and his reputation, because if get the sack from LFC, it will harm his reputation, and make hard for him to land a top job like this one.
He must be replaced at once.
jesus christ.
posts like this just prove that rafa is a victim of his own success, when houllier left fans would have been happy just to qualify for the champions league considering owen and gerrard wanted out and the squad houllier left. people talk about long ball, jesus christ did they actually go and watch a game under houllier? we were a joke, everyone outplayed us, even if we won it was hit and run tactics, cruyff called us a crime against football and to have half the league shout "hoof"at us hurt more than anything. at least teams like spurs and newcastle turn on their managers when they are half way down the league and in crisis, here at liverpool people start turning on the manager when it looks like we wont win the league!! not asking for much then!!
Ola Mr Benitez wrote:1. The players do not know they are playing till an hour before the game.
Big Niall Posted on Jan. 07 2008,16:18
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I won't change my mind on the basis of a cup run. Even Millwall reached the cup final a few years ago.
Cup runs are based on having a little bit of quality and a lot of luck. League is about ability.
judge a manager on the league.
Rafa is better than Houllier (who was a terrible manager - Heskey a regular FFS)
BTW - we still hoof the ball a lot.
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