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by **puroresu** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:40 pm

destro wrote:I have a quick question regarding Babel, why do so many insist he be given a run upfront is it because the other three forwards are not good enough or because that is his position ?

He may well have played as a forward at his previous club or at International level but from what I have seen of him so far he would offer us no more of a goal threat than Cisse, infact he is very similar in the way that he has no composure ( Derby goal aside ) and prefers to go for sheer power than to place/pass it into the net.

Is it just out of sheer desperation that we should give him a run upfront or am I missing something ?

I am pretty sure that if Rafa saw any sort of forward quality in him he would give him a run upfront just like Wenger saw Henrys quality and switched him from a winger to a forward

on the flip side rafa seems to see qualities in Dirk Kuyt and Vorinin. What he see's in kuyt I have no idea. His awful. really really bad.

Babel plays left sided forward for holland in a real 4-3-3 system. That is totally different to playing as a winger in a 4-4-2.

Plus Henry was always a striker at Monaco. Juve played him as a winger which was very silly!!

by **holylamb2006** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:41 pm

LegBarnes

You say u hate Rafa and the way he sets up his tactics

But still u have a pictureof him

by **Lando_Griffin** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:41 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
europian-kings wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
europian-kings wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
europian-kings wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
s@int wrote:
s@int wrote:Because he picked them, he bought them, he trained them, he motivated them, he told them what tactics to use. FFS Lando so Rafa Benitez had nothing to do with the performance? Does that mean that we are paying him for nothing? That when we won the CL he had nothing to do with that performance either?

On second thoughts maybe he didn't ...... MAYBE IT WAS PACO

yes i find it very funny how since paco left we have gone tits up mabye paco was the shadow manager at club and rafa was his muppet errrr i meen puppet.

I take it we didn't go unbeaten then this season?

I take it we didn't w*nker teams all over the park?

You're a f*cking prune at times lad.

and your not?

Why are you here, c*nt?

Is it to moan and whine about things you obviously don't understand?

If you're a Liverpool fan, you stick up for your club - end of.

im not moaning...i said i was disapointed, which i was...and you came in with your sarcy comments..

Well why don't you suck your thumb and cry about it then?

here we go again.....
ur comments really bore me

And yet.... You respond!

by the way lando i give you proof i was footballer if u give me proof you are A. not rafa B. you not fat lmao

My pic is in the "What you look like" thread.

Consider your bluff well and truly f*cked.

bluff ok send me ya e-mail i send it to you.

Better still - PM me.

really lando i rather not with some of the insults you use i rather stay away from you.

You got a mouth on you like one of puff daddys whores .

shame on you

Suprise suprise - you chicken sh*t b*stard.

Bluffing tw*t.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:42 pm

LittleHobo wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:get back to eating your pork pies lando

also are you benitez boyfriend?

Awww - did the likkle baby get beaten with the facts?

Awww.... Coochy coochy coo!

beaten by what facts?

we were awful today yet you keep kissing rafas arsee

yet this is rafas team, rafas style, rafas way

we were outplayed by a struggling team in division 1

Read my previous responses, knobhead.

You reckon we play sh*t football - I posted a list of games where we were far from it.

Facts. Don't you just LOVE them?

by **LegBarnes** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:44 pm

holylamb2006 wrote:LegBarnes

You say u hate Rafa and the way he sets up his tactics

But still u have a pictureof him

i dont hate the guy man i love him but i also love liverpool FC and i think he is sometime to smart with how he sets up team he needs to go back to basics but i dont think he will do that now.

At no point ever on this forum i have said i hate rafa i love the guy but when it comes down to manager and best for the club i always pick the club end off.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:44 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
holylamb2006 wrote:
get back to eating your pork pies lando

also are you benitez boyfriend

No i highly disagree with that comment

Just because u come on here and start slaggin off our manager

And lando obviously supports him and rightly protect him ...

So it would make u a gay if u support ur manager

fattys gotta stick together

Can you keep your fantasies out of this, Julian?

by **holylamb2006** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:45 pm

The thing i dnt get with dese pr**ks .....

If we lose dese people start to mainly attack rafa's tactics ....

But simply vanish when we win or say In Rafa I Trust

by **Lando_Griffin** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:46 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:heres one reason why rafa is to blame

idiotic subsitutions

at 1-1 he takes off babel and brings on voronin.......

yeah well done rafa, well done mate...take off our only forward with pace and replace him with dirk kuyt mark 2

So Babel was setting the World alight, huh?

Go to sleep, crazy lady.

climb out from rafas asss mate

so your happy with 5th in the league, nearly out of the fa cup against luton and stuggled to mate it through an easy champs league group?

Struggled with a +13 goal difference... Hmmm.....

Nearly out, even though we haven't yet gone behind...

5th in the league after half a season...

Nope - I'm not happy with that, but I don't think it's the end of the World, either.

so at 1-1 they didnt have chances to win it?

we rid our luck at 1-1, however down the other end we barely created a thing

And your point is?

As you yourself like to say by way of attacking Rafa:

"It doesn't matter how many chances you create, it's about whether you take them or not."

Next...

lando no one cares we are just finding it funny how far you will go to defend the undefendable ?

Really? No-one cares?

So why are you the first to respond, then? Why are you littering your posts with insults, whilst avoiding any actual content?

I insult more than anyone, but I also beat people with facts.

It makes it much more fun.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:47 pm

LittleHobo wrote:i worry that in rafas time he has outspent wenger and pretty much spent as much as fergason yet we are leagues apart from them in terms of consistency and footballing ability

like i said luton today were playing better football than us, their first team cost 600k, our first team cost 60 million

That's right.

Wenger hasn't had 10 years to build a team.

Ferguson hasn't had 20-odd.

They both signed for their clubs on the same day as Rafa.

You thick, thick, short-sighted, docile b*stard.

by **LittleHobo** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:48 pm

you have stated a list of our good performances this year and yeah il give you they were good performances

but how many of them were against top teams?

4 years in and still we struggle against the top teams

also just recently we are struggling against anyone

by **LegBarnes** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:48 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
europian-kings wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
europian-kings wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
europian-kings wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
s@int wrote:
s@int wrote:Because he picked them, he bought them, he trained them, he motivated them, he told them what tactics to use. FFS Lando so Rafa Benitez had nothing to do with the performance? Does that mean that we are paying him for nothing? That when we won the CL he had nothing to do with that performance either?

On second thoughts maybe he didn't ...... MAYBE IT WAS PACO

yes i find it very funny how since paco left we have gone tits up mabye paco was the shadow manager at club and rafa was his muppet errrr i meen puppet.

I take it we didn't go unbeaten then this season?

I take it we didn't w*nker teams all over the park?

You're a f*cking prune at times lad.

and your not?

Why are you here, c*nt?

Is it to moan and whine about things you obviously don't understand?

If you're a Liverpool fan, you stick up for your club - end of.

im not moaning...i said i was disapointed, which i was...and you came in with your sarcy comments..

Well why don't you suck your thumb and cry about it then?

here we go again.....
ur comments really bore me

And yet.... You respond!

by the way lando i give you proof i was footballer if u give me proof you are A. not rafa B. you not fat lmao

My pic is in the "What you look like" thread.

Consider your bluff well and truly f*cked.

bluff ok send me ya e-mail i send it to you.

Better still - PM me.

really lando i rather not with some of the insults you use i rather stay away from you.

You got a mouth on you like one of puff daddys whores .

shame on you

Suprise suprise - you chicken sh*t b*stard.

Bluffing tw*t.

lando it dont matter what u think the people who i care about in my life know about my life and that is all that matters to me i just dont like some wanna be nob end tell me i have no idea.

Been there done that got the T shirt.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:49 pm

s@int wrote:Lets all calm down, stop all the insults and discuss the game.

We all know we are right and Lando's wrong anyway

Naturally.

Me and Rafa, you mean...

by **lakes10** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:50 pm

One thing i know about Rafa before he come to our club was he was a GREAT European.

Now he has been at our club for 3 years i now know that he is

a great Champions league manager

A good FA cup manager

a very flakey Premier League manager

I am not sure why some European managers can come to England and almost pick our type of game up right away and some never seem to get to grips with it.

I put Rafa in the set that just can not get to grips with English football.

he will never understand that to win the prem you needto put your best team out all the time and play them for 90 min unless your are 2-0 up with 5 mins to go.

I find the way he gets our team to play very strange,asking SG to hold back and to only feed balls from deep (ok not all th time but a lot of it).
In the prem you pick you best team and get them to play at their best.

I can not see Rafa ever having a change of mind about how he plays our team in the prem and that is why i dont think he will ever win it for us.

going back to some that say that we can not blame Rafa for result today,I say that in that case you can not say it is down to Rafa when we play well then.

by **LegBarnes** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:51 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:i worry that in rafas time he has outspent wenger and pretty much spent as much as fergason yet we are leagues apart from them in terms of consistency and footballing ability

like i said luton today were playing better football than us, their first team cost 600k, our first team cost 60 million

That's right.

Wenger hasn't had 10 years to build a team.

Ferguson hasn't had 20-odd.

They both signed for their clubs on the same day as Rafa.

You thick, thick, short-sighted, docile b*stard.

lol you beat me with facts that funny wenger won the double 2nd season in his job ?

now who looks the fool lando

by **holylamb2006** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:51 pm

also just recently we are struggling against anyone

Did u say this when we were unbeaten in the league

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