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by **holylamb2006** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:05 am

i think it must now be discussed how bad a replacement for luis garcia yossi benayoun is

good player, average player but isnt fit to shine luis's boots

He's a West Ham reject :no

by **Reg** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:06 am

So was Tevez, Mascher and Fat Frank. Marvellous the talent the Hammers have lost isnt it? :laugh:

by **red_guy** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:07 am

jonnymac1979 wrote:I'll bet there's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said. Good to get it down though sometimes.

Walking back to my car after the game, I thought that it was a shame that Man City had won, that Steve Bennett is a complete cock for letting Brown get away with going round crunching our players left right and centre, he's also a cunt for getting 95% of the decisions wrong tonight, and that we had missed an opportunity again for what you would have described before the season started as three points banked before a ball had been kicked.

Now I'm thinking that we deserved nothing from the game anyway, taking away the points I've made above. They were beyond our control above.

• Finnan is finally looking his age. Appears to have lost his sprint. I know he set up the goal with the brilliant overlap but it was the only time he managed it the whole game.
• Gerrard was a yard off the pace tonight. Not used to seeing him like that and it obviously stands out a mile. He wasn't involved at all considering his usual style is to boss the park.
• Harry Kewell was s*i*e. And I'm a Kewell supporter.
• Aurelio's crosses and free kicks were poor all night.
• The fact that we played one up front at home against Wigan shows how much Rafa rates our other three strikers.
• If you are going to play with one up front, you NEED, NEED, NEED, NEED, NEED, to have wingers who are going to either supply decent crosses or support the striker by getting goals themselves. Kewell and Pennant aren't those wingers.
• To let Titus Bramble score is a crime.

I hope the players go in tonight to their luxury flats and mansions feelng like utter shit. They didn't even show up tonight. Utter shit. I'm very disappointed.

That team we put out tonight wasn't even full of reserves or anything. We were just shit. Hate times like this, I like posting good, supportive stuff on here, I hate logging on to say we've played terribly.

I've said enough. Daryl Hannah and Uma Thurman are beating shit out of each other on BBC3.

I feel you.... :down:

by **66-1112520797** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:09 am

I'm sure Wigan will come and put eleven men behind the ball, so either expect a frustrating game at Anfield, or a comfortable win.

Thats the last time I'm starting a match thread. :angry:

I'm not even going to bother watching this one, we're out of the title race yet again. :down:

by **percy99999** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:09 am

jonnymac1979 wrote:• Finnan is finally looking his age. Appears to have lost his sprint. I know he set up the goal with the brilliant overlap but it was the only time he managed it the whole game.
• Gerrard was a yard off the pace tonight. Not used to seeing him like that and it obviously stands out a mile. He wasn't involved at all considering his usual style is to boss the park.
• Harry Kewell was s*i*e. And I'm a Kewell supporter.
• Aurelio's crosses and free kicks were poor all night.
• The fact that we played one up front at home against Wigan shows how much Rafa rates our other three strikers.
• If you are going to play with one up front, you NEED, NEED, NEED, NEED, NEED, to have wingers who are going to either supply decent crosses or support the striker by getting goals themselves. Kewell and Pennant aren't those wingers.
•

I think I must have been watching a different game from you m8? Kewell had a reasonably good game in my book. Steve Finnan was class all evening and he always is. Stevie G was above average even if he could have played better, and as for Aurelio, well he does struggle to get into the game sometimes, but I think he has a lot of potential.

I agree with you about Penant tho, he's well below our standards most of the time although he does show the occasional flash of excellence we desperately need on the right side of the park. Shame his lack of vision gets in the way so often.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:13 am

I'm wondering if the score had have been 1-0 to us, would we be getting as much bollox being spoken and would as many spanners be coming out of the works to post their negative drivel.

I think not.

I think had the score been 1-0, we'd all be talking about how well such and such played and how good the team performed, which let's be honest, they did perform. They played well as a unit. It's just a sad fact that once again, as so many times in the past, we never killed the opposition off. Start searching for reasons why this is happening rather than come out and blame the manager or asking for his head. It's annoying. And old.

by **Pedro Maradona** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:14 am

lakes10 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:lets do a Newcastle on it and sack the manager for getting us nearly relegated.......oh sorry we won a Champions League and an FA cup and we got to another Champion League under Sam ....eh I mean Rafa Benitez....
The panic and criticism is like what is going on at Newcastle only we are in the next round of the champions league and fifth in the league... Some people on here need to get a grip, get behind the manager it took Ferguson years to turn around things at Old Trafford and Wenger for all his genius hasnt done it in Europe yet after ten years there.
PATIENCE is needed folks, ignore the hype and the Five live phone in idiots who think they know it all.

Alf Ramsey won the world cup once but when things did not go well for him he still got the sack, its not what you did, its what you can still do and doing.

yes and havent england been sooooo successful since!!

?

by **percy99999** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:17 am

Emerald Red wrote:I'm wondering if the score had have been 1-0 to us, would we be getting as much bollox being spoken and would as many spanners be coming out of the works to post their negative drivel.

I think not.

I think had the score been 1-0, we'd all be talking about how well such and such played and how good the team performed, which let's be honest, they did perform. They played well as a unit. It's just a sad fact that once again, as so many times in the past, we never killed the opposition off. Start searching for reasons why this is happening rather than come out and blame the manager or asking for his head. It's annoying. And old.

Absofookinlutely m8. :;):

by **lakes10** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:21 am

Pedro Maradona wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:lets do a Newcastle on it and sack the manager for getting us nearly relegated.......oh sorry we won a Champions League and an FA cup and we got to another Champion League under Sam ....eh I mean Rafa Benitez....
The panic and criticism is like what is going on at Newcastle only we are in the next round of the champions league and fifth in the league... Some people on here need to get a grip, get behind the manager it took Ferguson years to turn around things at Old Trafford and Wenger for all his genius hasnt done it in Europe yet after ten years there.
PATIENCE is needed folks, ignore the hype and the Five live phone in idiots who think they know it all.

Alf Ramsey won the world cup once but when things did not go well for him he still got the sack, its not what you did, its what you can still do and doing.

yes and havent england been sooooo successful since!! ?

i think thats more down to the fack that all England managers feel they have a god given right to win the World cup every time since then.....as the same can be said for the players.

by **Pedro Maradona** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:25 am

Emerald Red wrote:I'm wondering if the score had have been 1-0 to us, would we be getting as much bollox being spoken and would as many spanners be coming out of the works to post their negative drivel.

I think not.

I think had the score been 1-0, we'd all be talking about how well such and such played and how good the team performed, which let's be honest, they did perform. They played well as a unit. It's just a sad fact that once again, as so many times in the past, we never killed the opposition off. Start searching for reasons why this is happening rather than come out and blame the manager or asking for his head. It's annoying. And old.

you are right there! If we had won one nil the wind up merchants and the paprazzi tommorow would be giving out about something else.
Im fed up with the Rafa is under pressure hype, Hicks wants rafa out media-led rubbish. I wish Chelsea would loose a couple of games on the trot so the the press would be on Avram Grants back and they would have something else to write about.

Personally I think our finishing has been appalling all year and thats seems to be the difference between winning and losing a lot of games. Wheter Rafa can be blamed for that im not sure (buying kuyt, and vorinin, not playing crouch etc) wheter we play with enough creativity, etc etc

but I dont think have the rubbish talk would be talked if we had got the win we pretty much deserved.

by **holylamb2006** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:26 am

Kewell had a reasonably good game in my book

Kewell had a good game :no

He had the worst game in ages , everytime he got the ball he got shoved to the side , his touch let him down , he wasnt concentrating hard enough to know wat was happening and where his team mates were ...

by **Pedro Maradona** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:28 am

lakes10 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:lets do a Newcastle on it and sack the manager for getting us nearly relegated.......oh sorry we won a Champions League and an FA cup and we got to another Champion League under Sam ....eh I mean Rafa Benitez....
The panic and criticism is like what is going on at Newcastle only we are in the next round of the champions league and fifth in the league... Some people on here need to get a grip, get behind the manager it took Ferguson years to turn around things at Old Trafford and Wenger for all his genius hasnt done it in Europe yet after ten years there.
PATIENCE is needed folks, ignore the hype and the Five live phone in idiots who think they know it all.

Alf Ramsey won the world cup once but when things did not go well for him he still got the sack, its not what you did, its what you can still do and doing.

yes and havent england been sooooo successful since!! ?

i think thats more down to the fack that all England managers feel they have a god given right to win the World cup every time since then.....as the same can be said for the players.

and not because the players just arent good enough?

by **jedwards** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:29 am

I have been very sceptic of Benitez ability of winning the premier league since last season, that is mainly based on a numbers of factors, bad purchase of many average players, negative tactic, and arrogance, but so many fans in this forum, seems to disagree with me.
On tonight showing it does prove that the team is so disjointed, the moral is very low, playing with a negative approach, with one main striker while playing at home, needing all three points, with the useless Kewell on left wing, unable to go pass the defender to put a good cross through out the 75 minuets!!!!!!, Does the clever Benitez thinks that Kewell is the only and best winger at club!!!, and why he keep picking this useless player all the time, a player has offered so little, and he is a disgrace to wear the famous No.7 :censored:

, it just show you how much this club had declined over the past ten years, the standard of this famous club is lowering every year, the problem totally lies with club's board of directors, keep bringing in charge those foreign managers the likes of Houlier and Benitez, who both had destroyed this club with their negative tactics and stupid buys of unknown and so many average players, costing Millions!!!.
Why Benitez not starting with Torres and Crouch is totally beyond me!, why did he had to take off Mascherano (man of the match), it was a useless move, and since his departure, the team lost the midfield towards the final 10 minutes, why did he put another useless player as Kuyt on the right wing and ask him to cross the ball, yes he did that alright, he made one long cross missed every Liverpool player, a player like Kuyt who had cost the club £10 Million, he will not get into M.United, Chelsea, Arsenal reserves, but only the clever Benitez thinks he worth every penny!!!, How do expect a manager like Benitez thinks the like of Kewell,Kuyt,Aurelio,Voronin, Leto, and many others average players at his disposable, will and could win him the league!!!!!!!!, please be real, and let not just dream with full emotion, the existing squad is full of below average players, but in Benitez's eyes they are top stars!!!, do not take me wrong, the LFC still have top class players, but they are very few, and some of them not given enough chances to play in the first 11, but only the running donkeys and headless chickens type of players in Benitez's book are top class players, and he is always right, and everyone thinks otherwise he is wrong! This man has lost the plot, and his recent days remind me of the last days of another idiot like him in Houlier, I don't think that Benitez is commanding the respect of his players, the body language of most of the players is it right, and it is showing on the pitch, and I think the team with end up with 20-26 points behind the leaders by the end of Feb.08, bad times ahead could be certain!!!

I am very hurt after seeing our badly selected team struggle to Wigan tonight, that is mainly due to Benitez only. I am sorry if I have hurt your feelings

by **Pedro Maradona** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:30 am

lakes10 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:lets do a Newcastle on it and sack the manager for getting us nearly relegated.......oh sorry we won a Champions League and an FA cup and we got to another Champion League under Sam ....eh I mean Rafa Benitez....
The panic and criticism is like what is going on at Newcastle only we are in the next round of the champions league and fifth in the league... Some people on here need to get a grip, get behind the manager it took Ferguson years to turn around things at Old Trafford and Wenger for all his genius hasnt done it in Europe yet after ten years there.
PATIENCE is needed folks, ignore the hype and the Five live phone in idiots who think they know it all.

Alf Ramsey won the world cup once but when things did not go well for him he still got the sack, its not what you did, its what you can still do and doing.

yes and havent england been sooooo successful since!! ?

i think thats more down to the fack that all England managers feel they have a god given right to win the World cup every time since then.....as the same can be said for the players.

and not having good enough players had nothing to do with it?

by **ribenaboy** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:31 am

so disappointing, we were at home too

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