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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:18 am

By Robert Verkaik, Law Editor
Published: 10 November 2007

Three Arsenal season ticket holders have instructed human rights lawyers to bring a legal challenge against their own club over what they allege is racist chanting in the new Emirates Stadium.

In a letter sent to the Arsenal chairman, the fans – a Jew, a Muslim and a Christian – claim that the use of the anti-Semitic words "Yids" or "Yiddos" in reference to players and fans from Tottenham Hotspur amounts to a breach of Race Relations Act.

Their solicitor, Lawrence Davies, a leading human rights lawyer at the London law firm Equal Justice, has asked the club to take immediate action to stamp out all racist chanting at the club.

Mr Davies's letter, sent this week to Peter Hill-Wood, makes it clear that the season-ticket holders can sue the club for breach of contract as Arsenal has a written policy of taking firm action against racist behaviour in the stadium.

Arsenal fans argue that the use of the words "Yids" and "Yiddos" in reference to their north London rivals is not racist but simply directed at the club's Jewish history and point out that Tottenham fans even refer to themselves as the "Yid Army". But Mr Davies says this does not stop the language from being offensive and anti-Semitic.

Mr Davies says in his letter: "The test in law is whether the language concerned causes offence to the person concerned. Our five clients are all Arsenal supporters and three are season-ticket holders. The season-ticket holders include a Jewish member and a Muslim member. They have all felt offended."

He claims that by taking no action, the club would appear to be in breach of the Race Relations Act 1976 in the provision of a service or permitting harassment to occur without challenge.

His letter adds: "The season-ticket holders have a contractual relationship with the club. The contract states that fans exhibiting racist behaviour will have their contracts terminated and will be ejected form a particular match. None of the 'Yid' chanters have been challenged."

Mr Davies and his clients readily acknowledge that work has been done to combat racism in recent years.

But he adds: "It is simply not sufficient to state in the match-day programme that the club is against racism ... There needs to be an approach to tackle racism which educates fans on anti-racist behaviour." The fans have also asked their lawyer to write to Herman Ousely, the chairman of Let's Kick Racism Out Of Football, and Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

The legal challenge comes after Arsenal signed a £350,000 sponsorship deal with the Israeli tourism ministry in which images of players are used to promote the country as an ideal tourism destination.

It gives Arsenal strong ties with both sides of the Arab-Israeli conflict. Arsenal's new stadium carries the name of the Emirates airline, owned by the United Arab Emirates government, which has no diplomatic relations with Israel.

An Arsenal spokesman said: "Arsenal Football Club will not tolerate foul language and racist chanting at Emirates Stadium. Whether Arsenal supporters or visiting fans are responsible, we will take action – through the courts if necessary – to stamp out this unacceptable behaviour. Where evidence 


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Postby Woollyback » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:23 am

bonkers innit? nobody really gives a sh*t do they, until there's the smell of money and the lawyers come scrounging. tw.ats

we should have a ministry of common sense in this country that has the power to outlaw rubbish like this and deport the lawyers to america where they belong
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:59 am

In a letter sent to the Arsenal chairman, the fans – a Jew, a Muslim and a Christian...

im sure theres a joke in this somewhere. i lvoe this country buts seriously f*cked up when it comes to common sense
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Postby Scottbot » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:14 am

The world's gone bloody mad, half the Tottenham songs have the word 'Yid' in them!

Numpties everywhere.

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:35 pm

How long before some prat pipes up about their offence at being called a geordie, or a cockney, etc?

Ridiculous. :no
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Postby taff » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:34 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:How long before some prat pipes up about their offence at being called a geordie, or a cockney, etc?

Ridiculous. :no

shut up fattie
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Postby Judge » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:42 am

taff wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:How long before some prat pipes up about their offence at being called a geordie, or a cockney, etc?

Ridiculous. :no

shut up fattie

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Postby Big Niall » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:01 pm

What does it matter if somebody is a catholic, a jew or a muslim - we're all christians! :D
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Postby Judge » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:10 pm

Big Niall wrote:What does it matter if somebody is a catholic, a jew or a muslim - we're all christians! :D

i dont align myself to any faith so therefore shouldnt offend anyone

if thats the case then fuck off  :D

see,  no offense  :D
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:46 pm

Spurs fans refer to themselves as "Yids" so it can't be an offensive thing to chant.
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Postby Kharhaz » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:00 pm

Can you imagine the chants in the future?

"Who ate all the pies? who ate all the pies you fat b....."

Would become:
"Who ate all the pies? who ate all the pies? its very possible that obese man over there had them !"

"The referees a w...."

Would become:
"The referee is not making the correct judgements in this particular match."

"Your Sh.it and you know you are!"

Would become:
"Your not doing very well and are likely to be relegated!"

Oh fun times ahead....
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Postby Judge » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:47 pm

Kharhaz wrote:Can you imagine the chants in the future?

"Who ate all the pies? who ate all the pies you fat b....."

Would become:
"Who ate all the pies? who ate all the pies? its very possible that obese man over there had them !"

"The referees a w...."

Would become:
"The referee is not making the correct judgements in this particular match."

"Your Sh.it and you know you are!"

Would become:
"Your not doing very well and are likely to be relegated!"

Oh fun times ahead....

looks like youve thought about it  :D
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:02 pm

and the classic chant of ...

"Who's the bstd in the black!?!"

would become...

"Who's the fellow born out of lawful matrimony in the dark shirt and shorts?!"
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:45 pm

my idea of changing wives and girlfriends (WAGS) to wives OR girlfriends (oh) will never come to fruition now

(think about it)
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Postby Judge » Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:36 pm

dawson99 wrote:my idea of changing wives and girlfriends (WAGS) to wives OR girlfriends (oh) will never come to fruition now

(think about it)

racist  :grinning:
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