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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:12 am

bigmick wrote:Just back on the subject of rotation again, (I know what a yawn) but I think I'm right in saying Arsenal played only two outfield players in the away game against Prague who played against us in the Premeirship. Clichy and Gallas played and I think that was it, no sign of Fabregas and the like.

Has Wenger suddenly been converted to the idea of mass rotation? Unfortunately not, they're doing it the sensible way. Get the points on the board nice and early before resting players once they've actually played more than about five games and when they can afford to do it.

Man Utd were a touch more conservative. Only Simpson, Pique, Fletcher and Nani would be considered not regulars. Similar story there though, already well and truly in a rich veign of form and already qualified to all intents and purposes so now the resting kicks in.

It will be interesting now to see if we make any attempt whatsoever to arrive at a settled team, or whether we continue with the five and six changes per game which we probably average currently. If we do continue with the mass rotation and we don't get anywhere near the Premiership leaders, we will have only ourselves to blame IMHO.

I am more worried about the striker situation than about rotation at the moment. If Kuyt plays instead of Crouch against Fulham I think we may as well forget any title ambitions we may have (even though I believe we would still win the match), because it will be obvious that Rafa is putting personal feelings above what is best for Liverpool.

There comes a time when a manager has to swallow his pride for the good of the team. Its obvious that Crouch is the man in form, the bigger threat and much more likely to score than Kuyt.

Even if he drops Crouch for Torres I think it would send out the wrong message to the players.
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Postby bigmick » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:16 am

I'm pretty sure he'll start with Crouch Saint to be perfectly honest. I know I've said it fifty times and been wrong every time, but I really think that this time, Rafa will from now on start to pick the caucus of a settled team, with his better players in it, and therefore Crouch will start. He will this time and from now on, honest :D

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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:21 am

bigmick wrote:I'm pretty sure he'll start with Crouch Saint to be perfectly honest. I know I've said it fifty times and been wrong every time, but I really think that this time, Rafa will from now on start to pick the caucus of a settled team, with his better players in it, and therefore Crouch will start. He will this time and from now on, honest :D

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:laugh: I just hope you're right mate
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:25 am

I don't think crouch will start against Fulham, he played the full 90 minutes against Besiktas, that tells me Rafa wasn't "saving" him for the weekend.

I've tried to resist getting into the "Rafa v Crouchie, is it personal ?" debate but after the Besiktas game Rafa when talking about the goalscorers said "Ryan, Yossi and Crouch". A small point but the first two are addressed informally by their first names, Crouch on the other hand is addressed with the formal use of his surname. Distinct lack of warmth from Rafa regarding Crouch.
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:31 am

I'm pretty sure he'll start with Crouch Saint to be perfectly honest. I know I've said it fifty times and been wrong every time, but I really think that this time, Rafa will from now on start to pick the caucus of a settled team


You do say that an awful lot, and your running the risk of sounding like a broken record. :D

But if you do finnally hit the nail on the head with Rafa's lottery you cannot claim it as you call it every other flipping game. :D
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:36 am

Bamaga man wrote:
I'm pretty sure he'll start with Crouch Saint to be perfectly honest. I know I've said it fifty times and been wrong every time, but I really think that this time, Rafa will from now on start to pick the caucus of a settled team


You do say that an awful lot, and your running the risk of sounding like a broken record. :D

But if you do finnally hit the nail on the head with Rafa's lottery you cannot claim it as you call it every other flipping game. :D

Oh dont worry, peewee will claim to have been telling Rafa it for years.
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:38 am

Leonmc0708 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
I'm pretty sure he'll start with Crouch Saint to be perfectly honest. I know I've said it fifty times and been wrong every time, but I really think that this time, Rafa will from now on start to pick the caucus of a settled team


You do say that an awful lot, and your running the risk of sounding like a broken record. :D

But if you do finnally hit the nail on the head with Rafa's lottery you cannot claim it as you call it every other flipping game. :D

Oh dont worry, peewee will claim to have been telling Rafa it for years.

:D

Telling him ? Or putting it into a letter  :laugh:

sorry Peewee couldnt resist.
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Postby stmichael » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:08 pm

The football we played on Tuesday is exactly what we should be seeing on a regular basis regardless of opposition. The passing was crisp, the movement was good. If a ball forward wasn’t on we went sideways or backwards but we kept possession. Don’t recall a single hoof (long may it continue). Honestly baffled with the quality of players at our disposal why we can’t produce this kind of quality on a regular basis. We did the basics extremely well.

Indivdually. Arbeloa, Voronin, Crouchie and Benayoun were superb. But MOTM still goes the Mascherano for me. Absolutely immense – he had a couple of dodgy games where he gave the ball away a lot but what a player. He’s the real; deal, bees knees, he was the hub of everything that was excellent.

I suppose the key is not to get too carried away by this. Enjoy it for a few days, we’ve stamped our authority our Europe yet again BUT we need to show the same determination + pass/movement more consistently. Going back to Blackburn if we had played like we did for the last 15 mintutes 15 minutes earlier we’d have won that game easily.

We’re getting there. I just hope and pray its not a false dawn.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:11 pm

Bamaga man wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
I'm pretty sure he'll start with Crouch Saint to be perfectly honest. I know I've said it fifty times and been wrong every time, but I really think that this time, Rafa will from now on start to pick the caucus of a settled team


You do say that an awful lot, and your running the risk of sounding like a broken record. :D

But if you do finnally hit the nail on the head with Rafa's lottery you cannot claim it as you call it every other flipping game. :D

Oh dont worry, peewee will claim to have been telling Rafa it for years.

:D

Telling him ? Or putting it into a letter  :laugh:

sorry Peewee couldnt resist.

i resemble that remark    :D


hey leon jealousy is a terrible thing, you need to get it under control mate     :p
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