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by **LFC2007** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:24 am

Bamaga man wrote:
I have no idea what you are even getting at, I've answered all your questions

You still havent answered my question about 'to your knowledge we've havent sold arms in Burma'

Waiting.

What is your knowledge, and show us your source then, we may agree with you. But playing all this secret squirrel stuff makes me even more intrigued of your wealth of knowledge.

I can't find ay documented information or research that shows Britain has exported arm's to Burma.

However, you may be able to:

The clique inquisition

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:24 am

Emerald Red wrote:Well, fellas - it's been real. Nice talkin bollox with yez for one night, but I gotta shoot the crow (gotta see an arms dealer about that one first). Adios.

Be interesting to read how this debate I've stirred has developed by tomorrow.

Take care mate

bye

by **babu** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:25 am

Hey LFC2007,

Is your source NISAT? only reason i'm interested is this kind of research, not arms per se, but market research, is what i do.

edit: just saw your above post. Stockholm peace institute. ok. cheers i will look through (i'm a bit bored at work)

by **LFC2007** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:28 am

babu wrote:Hey LFC2007,

Is your source NISAT? only reason i'm interested is this kind of research, not arms per se, but market research, is what i do.

Yeh, I had a look at that aswell.

SIPRI, and a couple of others too.

Au revoir.

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:39 am

LFC2007 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:The yanks provided weapons for the Germans during the war did they not?
And they provided weapons for Al Quaida yes?
And Iraq?
And Afghanistan?

Heres what we should do....
We should round em....
Put em in a field....

Not just the Yanks. Russia, France, China and the Uk are the worlds biggest arms supplies.

They are also the five permanent membrs of the U.N. security council.

1) US
2) Russia
3) Germany
4) France
5) Netherlands
6) UK

China aren't big suppliers, TMK.

Rank 1977-2006 Rank 1976-2005 Supplier 1 1 USA
2 2 USSR
3 3 France
4 4 Russia
5 5 Germany (FRG)
6 6 UK
7 7 China

maybe China are bigger than one might think

Source SIPRI Arms Transfers Database

by **66-1112520797** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:47 am

LFC2007 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
I have no idea what you are even getting at, I've answered all your questions

You still havent answered my question about 'to your knowledge we've havent sold arms in Burma'

Waiting.

What is your knowledge, and show us your source then, we may agree with you. But playing all this secret squirrel stuff makes me even more intrigued of your wealth of knowledge.

I can't find ay documented information or research that shows Britain has exported arm's to Burma.

However, you may be able to:

The clique inquisition

Thank you, thats all I was asking for, I'll have a gander later.

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:07 am

LFC2007 wrote:
peewee wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
peewee wrote:listen LFC2007 or whoever you are really, i have noticed may times that when people pick holes in your argument you choose to continue it hoping that your grasp of grammar will let you whittle your way out, when that fails you pop in the 'joke' comment as a way of backtracking.

you don't do yourself any favours mate, wouldn't it be much nicer of just once you say 'ah yes you are right, i have misunderstood something', or said oh my opinion is just speculation based on things i have read that may not be correct'

LFC2007 will do fine, not Karim or Oasis as you constantly suggest.

Bamaga chose to mock my post, I chose to mock his.

There are no 'holes' in my argument.

I put forward a list from a reasonably credible source, accepting at the same time that there is of course a margin for error, just one smaller than press reports alone.

constantly? once since you joined the forum does not constitute 'constantly' my friend, just as citing your anonymous sources does not make it correct.

seems you have a problem with 'truth', it seems your honesty changes to suit you and suit your argument. the fact is during this discussion your knowledge has been shown to be lacking and when pushed you have failed to answer questions.

i can easily say "i read once in a report that there is a six foot 8 legged chicken in mongolia" it doesn't make it true because i read it in a report mate and if i carried on saying it was right because its my source then i would look foolish

Constantly yes, the same people, every time. It's incessant.

I have no idea what you are even getting at, I've answered all your questions. I haven't lied, I've given you honest answers

I have never claimed to know more than anyone else on the issue. I have given, what I believe, and from the sources I have seen that the list I put forward to be correct, or to have a reasonable level of accuracy to it concerning registered arm's deals. You can believe what you like, I'll believe what I like.

I have never said what I have read is categorically true, I have maintained throughout your inquisition, that it may be wrong. Like anything in life, there is a margin for error.

The margin for error in this instance is IMHO, lower than that of an individual press report.

I have never 'backtracked' on this issue.

since you addressed this at me i am interested in seeing where i have constantly or incessantly said you were karim or oasis, if by these terms you actually mean 'once' then i am guilty as charged.

if however this is one of your made up stats then i suggest you retract it, sadly in this it appears it is a case of 'make something up and hope people believe it to detract from the thread where i made myself look silly' hey maybe you read it is a report.

feel free to contradict me by showing all these constant and incessant allegations i have made agaisnt you, i am waiting with baited breath. this is one thing you can prove as it will all be in black and white on the forum, but sadly i fear you will not eb able to prove this as its not true and will no doubt change it to "oh its not aimed at you specifically, its aimed at everyone"

you are comedy genius without even realising it mate

by **LFC2007** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:57 pm

s@int wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:The yanks provided weapons for the Germans during the war did they not?
And they provided weapons for Al Quaida yes?
And Iraq?
And Afghanistan?

Heres what we should do....
We should round em....
Put em in a field....

Not just the Yanks. Russia, France, China and the Uk are the worlds biggest arms supplies.

They are also the five permanent membrs of the U.N. security council.

1) US
2) Russia
3) Germany
4) France
5) Netherlands
6) UK

China aren't big suppliers, TMK.

Rank 1977-2006 Rank 1976-2005 Supplier 1 1 USA
2 2 USSR
3 3 France
4 4 Russia
5 5 Germany (FRG)
6 6 UK
7 7 China

maybe China are bigger than one might think

Source SIPRI Arms Transfers Database

That's over a 30 year period.

I was referring to the last recorded year.

In any case, over the last decade, China have not been large exporters of arm's, according to the stat's which detail recorded transfers. Therefore I wouldn't currently describe them as being in the top echelon of exporters, maybe 20-30 years ago they were, but not now.

by **LFC2007** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:08 pm

peewee wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
peewee wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
peewee wrote:listen LFC2007 or whoever you are really, i have noticed may times that when people pick holes in your argument you choose to continue it hoping that your grasp of grammar will let you whittle your way out, when that fails you pop in the 'joke' comment as a way of backtracking.

you don't do yourself any favours mate, wouldn't it be much nicer of just once you say 'ah yes you are right, i have misunderstood something', or said oh my opinion is just speculation based on things i have read that may not be correct'

LFC2007 will do fine, not Karim or Oasis as you constantly suggest.

Bamaga chose to mock my post, I chose to mock his.

There are no 'holes' in my argument.

I put forward a list from a reasonably credible source, accepting at the same time that there is of course a margin for error, just one smaller than press reports alone.

constantly? once since you joined the forum does not constitute 'constantly' my friend, just as citing your anonymous sources does not make it correct.

seems you have a problem with 'truth', it seems your honesty changes to suit you and suit your argument. the fact is during this discussion your knowledge has been shown to be lacking and when pushed you have failed to answer questions.

i can easily say "i read once in a report that there is a six foot 8 legged chicken in mongolia" it doesn't make it true because i read it in a report mate and if i carried on saying it was right because its my source then i would look foolish

Constantly yes, the same people, every time. It's incessant.

I have no idea what you are even getting at, I've answered all your questions. I haven't lied, I've given you honest answers

I have never claimed to know more than anyone else on the issue. I have given, what I believe, and from the sources I have seen that the list I put forward to be correct, or to have a reasonable level of accuracy to it concerning registered arm's deals. You can believe what you like, I'll believe what I like.

I have never said what I have read is categorically true, I have maintained throughout your inquisition, that it may be wrong. Like anything in life, there is a margin for error.

The margin for error in this instance is IMHO, lower than that of an individual press report.

I have never 'backtracked' on this issue.

since you addressed this at me i am interested in seeing where i have constantly or incessantly said you were karim or oasis, if by these terms you actually mean 'once' then i am guilty as charged.

if however this is one of your made up stats then i suggest you retract it, sadly in this it appears it is a case of 'make something up and hope people believe it to detract from the thread where i made myself look silly' hey maybe you read it is a report.

feel free to contradict me by showing all these constant and incessant allegations i have made agaisnt you, i am waiting with baited breath. this is one thing you can prove as it will all be in black and white on the forum, but sadly i fear you will not eb able to prove this as its not true and will no doubt change it to "oh its not aimed at you specifically, its aimed at everyone"

you are comedy genius without even realising it mate

You have made on more than one occasion, accusations against me that I am an alter ego, which are not true.

I'm not going to traipse around the forum looking for the exact points at which you have accused me of being an alter ego, but you certainly believe I am one, and have said a few times that I am. You've told others I am an alter ego, you've persisted with the notion over a good period of time now.

I haven't made myself look silly in this thread.

I've been consistent all along in what I've said, you on the other hand thought you my try and catch me out for no reason.

You might well have asked Bamaga man the same petty question you asked me in the beginning, but chose to pose it to me instead, I wonder why. Hence why I asked Bamaga the question, just to point out how farcical and biased towards other members you are.

I don't claim to have a superior knowledge of the subject, or a wealth of knowledge on the subject, I am going by sources I have seen that have a fair degree of credibility attached to them.

You would be comedy genius peewee, accusing me of being Oasis and Karim, telling other forum members that I'm Oasis and Karim, when I'm clearly not.

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:38 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
peewee wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
peewee wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
peewee wrote:listen LFC2007 or whoever you are really, i have noticed may times that when people pick holes in your argument you choose to continue it hoping that your grasp of grammar will let you whittle your way out, when that fails you pop in the 'joke' comment as a way of backtracking.

you don't do yourself any favours mate, wouldn't it be much nicer of just once you say 'ah yes you are right, i have misunderstood something', or said oh my opinion is just speculation based on things i have read that may not be correct'

LFC2007 will do fine, not Karim or Oasis as you constantly suggest.

Bamaga chose to mock my post, I chose to mock his.

There are no 'holes' in my argument.

I put forward a list from a reasonably credible source, accepting at the same time that there is of course a margin for error, just one smaller than press reports alone.

constantly? once since you joined the forum does not constitute 'constantly' my friend, just as citing your anonymous sources does not make it correct.

seems you have a problem with 'truth', it seems your honesty changes to suit you and suit your argument. the fact is during this discussion your knowledge has been shown to be lacking and when pushed you have failed to answer questions.

i can easily say "i read once in a report that there is a six foot 8 legged chicken in mongolia" it doesn't make it true because i read it in a report mate and if i carried on saying it was right because its my source then i would look foolish

Constantly yes, the same people, every time. It's incessant.

I have no idea what you are even getting at, I've answered all your questions. I haven't lied, I've given you honest answers

I have never claimed to know more than anyone else on the issue. I have given, what I believe, and from the sources I have seen that the list I put forward to be correct, or to have a reasonable level of accuracy to it concerning registered arm's deals. You can believe what you like, I'll believe what I like.

I have never said what I have read is categorically true, I have maintained throughout your inquisition, that it may be wrong. Like anything in life, there is a margin for error.

The margin for error in this instance is IMHO, lower than that of an individual press report.

I have never 'backtracked' on this issue.

since you addressed this at me i am interested in seeing where i have constantly or incessantly said you were karim or oasis, if by these terms you actually mean 'once' then i am guilty as charged.

if however this is one of your made up stats then i suggest you retract it, sadly in this it appears it is a case of 'make something up and hope people believe it to detract from the thread where i made myself look silly' hey maybe you read it is a report.

feel free to contradict me by showing all these constant and incessant allegations i have made agaisnt you, i am waiting with baited breath. this is one thing you can prove as it will all be in black and white on the forum, but sadly i fear you will not eb able to prove this as its not true and will no doubt change it to "oh its not aimed at you specifically, its aimed at everyone"

you are comedy genius without even realising it mate

You have made on more than one occasion, accusations against me that I am an alter ego, which are not true.

I'm not going to traipse around the forum looking for the exact points at which you have accused me of being an alter ego, but you certainly believe I am one, and have said a few times that I am. You've told others I am an alter ego, you've persisted with the notion over a good period of time now.

I haven't made myself look silly in this thread.

I've been consistent all along in what I've said, you on the other hand thought you my try and catch me out for no reason.

You might well have asked Bamaga man the same petty question you asked me in the beginning, but chose to pose it to me instead, I wonder why. Hence why I asked Bamaga the question, just to point out how farcical and biased towards other members you are.

I don't claim to have a superior knowledge of the subject, or a wealth of knowledge on the subject, I am going by sources I have seen that have a fair degree of credibility attached to them.

You would be comedy genius peewee, accusing me of being Oasis and Karim, telling other forum members that I'm Oasis and Karim, when I'm clearly not.

i have asked you to show me where i have constantly and incessantly said you were an alter ego, surely if its constant and incessant like you say then you will not have to traipse through the forum looking for evidence, surely it will be readily available.

so put up or shut up, its quite simple. to be honest i can play that game, i can accuse you of something, say you told lots of other posters the same thing, say it was incessant and constant (maybe you need to look i the dictionary for these words mate as its obvious you do not know what they mean) and then say I can't be bothered to traipse through the forum looking for evidence.

now would you lie to carry on making this allegation blindly or shall we just all it quits, i know i am right and you know i am right, you are not worth the effort and to think i talk about you constantly is really flattering yourself, you are nothing, i asked the question when you joined and that was pretty much the end of it apart from maybe the odd comment months ago, if you think that is constant and incessant then you really are not as educated as you like to portray yourself

by **woof woof !** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:45 pm

I'm getting the feeling that this thread is losing it's will to live .

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:48 pm

yeah mate lock it, he can always pm the evidence

by **66-1112520797** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:58 pm

Listen, since willys' departure this thread hasnt resulted into 'insults' or what have we've kept it pretty civilised.

Lets not go off on "personel" tangents, as I found the last third of this thread quite interesting, hopefully a few others have too.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:17 pm

Bamaga man wrote:as I found the last third of this thread quite interesting, hopefully a few others have too.

Nar I think its fuckin boring

And I still think LFC_2007 is Karim. :nod

by **burjennio** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:54 pm

Sorry but the last few pages of this forum have made me long to appear on the 9 oclock news with the monolgue ending "then he turned the gun on himself"

Can we please get back to xenaphobia and crackpot ideas about immagration deterrant? Brainless racism is comedy
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