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by **66-1112520797** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:25 pm

Arrogant ? I don't think so .

Maybe it just suits some people on this forum to see the world as a collection of stereotypes.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:37 pm

Bad Bob wrote:He PMed me a huge picture of Hitler!

Dunno why, but that made me laugh.

:laugh:

by **GOAT** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:50 am

Emerald Red wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:He PMed me a huge picture of Hitler!

Dunno why, but that made me laugh.

lmao

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:27 am

s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

The "Yanks" helped us out, did they? Would you consider that a Market trader "helps you out" by selling you their stock? Or would you reckon that YOU helped HIM out?

Do you realise that only at the turn of this year did Britain finally manage to pay off the debt owed to the US for munitions provided from March 1941 during WWII?

There's a World of information out there

I have firsthand accounts from people who were there during the war, and the American soldiers were big on brash, and small on skill.

"As green as grass" best sums up the typical US soldier during WWII. In the beginning, they were a liability.

As the Allied forces transported munitions (under the guard of a handful of tanks) to the front line in North Africa, they encountered a German Panzer squadron. Protocol at this time (when Panzers were far superior to the tanks the allies had) was to destroy the munitions and tanks before you were within the enemy's range, and retreat. (Simply retreating would allow the Nazi's to utilize the abandoned weapons against us.)

So what did the "oh-so-great-and-noble" US soldiers do? They ran. They actually got out of their vehicles and pegged it.

Oh, and here's another little titbit for your future reference:

The USA would not have entered the War had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941. (Which had little to do with the war on Germany, which is a popular misconception. It was more to do with Japan's own expansion policy into Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies.)

So...

Did the Yanks save the World, or did they simply sell us the weapons we saved ourselves with?

We could have always done what the French did - told the Yanks to sod off. We paid back our loan, the French didn't and have no intention of doing so.

The USA entered the war against Germany because Germany declared war on the USA.

Thailand declared war on Britain during the second world war but the thai ambassador in England refused to deliver the declaration, also they declared war on america and the ambassador refused to deliver the declaration

by **Kharhaz** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:34 am

The yanks provided weapons for the Germans during the war did they not?
And they provided weapons for Al Quaida yes?
And Iraq?
And Afghanistan?

Heres what we should do....
We should round em....
Put em in a field....

by **Woollyback** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:36 am

the yanks made it sociably acceptable to be fat, so for that reason alone the rest of the world should declare war on their wobbly asses

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:42 am

i was in mcdonalds last night with my girlfriend and there were two americans in there, these were adults aged about 40-50. one was on the phone speaking in his loud 'oh listen to me i am american' voice that they tend to adopt in asia in the belief that everyone will be impressed.

anyway as we stood up to leave i noticed one of these ignoramus's had his leg up on the table the sole of his foot pointing at people.

number one people have to eat of that table and number two the thais (buddhists) see the sole of the foot at the lowest part of the body and its offensive to point it anyone, so i took great pleasure in telling him to move his foot of the table, which he did quickly.

skunk

by **Woollyback** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:45 am

peewee wrote:i was in mcdonalds last night with my girlfriend and there were two americans in there, these were adults aged about 40-50. one was on the phone speaking in his loud 'oh listen to me i am american' voice that they tend to adopt in asia in the belief that everyone will be impressed.

anyway as we stood up to leave i noticed one of these ignoramus's had his leg up on the table the sole of his foot pointing at people.

number one people have to eat of that table and number two the thais (buddhists) see the sole of the foot at the lowest part of the body and its offensive to point it anyone, so i took great pleasure in telling him to move his foot of the table, which he did quickly.

skunk

top behaviour peewee :cool:

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:55 am

Woollyback wrote:
peewee wrote:i was in mcdonalds last night with my girlfriend and there were two americans in there, these were adults aged about 40-50. one was on the phone speaking in his loud 'oh listen to me i am american' voice that they tend to adopt in asia in the belief that everyone will be impressed.

anyway as we stood up to leave i noticed one of these ignoramus's had his leg up on the table the sole of his foot pointing at people.

number one people have to eat of that table and number two the thais (buddhists) see the sole of the foot at the lowest part of the body and its offensive to point it anyone, so i took great pleasure in telling him to move his foot of the table, which he did quickly.

skunk

top behaviour peewee

i have nothing agaisnt americans mate apart from the belief that a lot of ex pat americans have that people love them and respect them, in fact its the opposite, they seem incapable of having a quiet conversation

but even if this was two British guys I would have said the same to them, the problem is that Thais are polite and although offended will not speak out, I knew the thai staff wouldn't say anything so I did it for them

by **Kharhaz** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:00 am

woof woof ! wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Hate to admit it but Stus right. Where as before we were cool its all a joke now. Heated debates are a no no. Ive mentioned it before and i'll mention it again, its like having new labour in charge of here. Anything controversial results in a card or the topic being locked.

Its not as fun as it used to be.

There's nothing wrong with heated debates. Unfortunately most "heated debates " in this forum have a habit of turning into nothing more than flame wars between individual members, thats when they usually get locked

You may consider that the forum is "not as fun as it used to be" there are plenty of other forums you could visit where malicious abuse and racism is considered "fun" , if thats your thing.

You get me wrong. A heated debate to me is where you are so sure in what you say that a few insults are thrown in as a natural reaction. Many people type on this forum in the manner in which we speak. So what looks like an insult, if it was said in lets say a pub, then you wouldnt be so insulted because you would "hear" rather than "read" the manner in which it is put. The current debates regarding the spending of rafa vs wenger for instance, insults were exchanged but backed up by facts, too many facts I might add, I hate numbers they scare me !

But maybe thats where im going wrong, I dont take it too much to heart when insults are put here.

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:13 am

peewee wrote:
Woollyback wrote:
peewee wrote:i was in mcdonalds last night with my girlfriend and there were two americans in there, these were adults aged about 40-50. one was on the phone speaking in his loud 'oh listen to me i am american' voice that they tend to adopt in asia in the belief that everyone will be impressed.

anyway as we stood up to leave i noticed one of these ignoramus's had his leg up on the table the sole of his foot pointing at people.

number one people have to eat of that table and number two the thais (buddhists) see the sole of the foot at the lowest part of the body and its offensive to point it anyone, so i took great pleasure in telling him to move his foot of the table, which he did quickly.

skunk

top behaviour peewee

i have nothing agaisnt americans mate apart from the belief that a lot of ex pat americans have that people love them and respect them, in fact its the opposite, they seem incapable of having a quiet conversation

but even if this was two British guys I would have said the same to them, the problem is that Thais are polite and although offended will not speak out, I knew the thai staff wouldn't say anything so I did it for them

I call that respecting the culture peewee well done mate

by **Emerald Red** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:35 am

Kharhaz wrote:The yanks provided weapons for the Germans during the war did they not?
And they provided weapons for Al Quaida yes?
And Iraq?
And Afghanistan?

Heres what we should do....
We should round em....
Put em in a field....

I don't think the Americans did give the Germans weapons. It was a fact that America was running out of munitions because they couldn't get the funding for the war effort. They had to stage mass propaganda events in order to get the public to dip their hands into their pockets and to get big business men to sign big cheque's. Anyway, if you look at most of the weapons used, they all had different designs unique to the countries. Where the Germans had rifles like a Kar98, the Yanks had the M1 Garand etc etc. I don't think they sold ammo to them either, as they were as different as well. Anyway, the Germans are an industrial bunch - they know how to design stuff efficiently well as we know.

As for America giving guns to the rest on that list, it's not particularly fair to just single the Yanks out regarding that. Russia, France and Briton are as equally guilty. Just remember, that when you hear of troops in Iraq getting killed, or people in third world countries slaughtering each other, spare a thought on how they actually got the means to do so in the first place. The guns used were probably made on some base not too far away from where you live.

Ironically enough, it's the reason why I'll bring the thread full circle and make a point that possibly a lot of immigrants have fled some waring countries and into the UK - one of the main arm's dealers that probably gave the tools and the means for the death and destruction in their land in the first place.

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:39 am

Emerald Red wrote:They had to stage mass propaganda events in order to get the public to dip their hands into their pockets and to get big business men to sign big cheque's.

Pearl Harbour

by **LFC2007** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:41 am

Emerald Red wrote:Ironically enough, it's the reason why I'll bring the thread full circle and make a point that possibly a lot of immigrants have fled some waring countries and into the UK - one of the main arm's dealers that probably gave the tools and the means for the death and destruction in their land in the first place.

Could you cite some recent examples?

by **Emerald Red** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:47 am

peewee wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:They had to stage mass propaganda events in order to get the public to dip their hands into their pockets and to get big business men to sign big cheque's.

Pearl Harbour

As a reason? Or conspiracy? Erm...no comment!

Well, that was America's big go ahead to jump in, which they had to. I mean after they were well involved in the war, and the Japs taking the war to the Yanks like they never expected to. Americans expected that the Japs would be a push over. By f*ck did they get a shock. The battle of Iwo Jima certainly took them by surprise. It dragged on for months, sucking up the munitions and American moral in general. They needed money and fast.

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