Is there too many ethnics?

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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:02 pm

burjennio wrote:Dont lock it, encourage the ranting, its the funniest thread I've read in months. Quick somebody make a ridiculous statement, I'll go first

"Manchester should be ethnically Cleansed"

Let the bombing begin......
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Ok.

Ethnics. You Brits all have crooked teeth, and you all really need dentists over there. You Irish should stop eating corn beef and cabbage and get a tan. Oh, and you're all fat, drink beer too much and really need to grow a few inches as you're all just about over 4 feet, and that's just your women.


Sorry, I slipped into Yank mode there.
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Postby Kharhaz » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:13 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
burjennio wrote:Dont lock it, encourage the ranting, its the funniest thread I've read in months. Quick somebody make a ridiculous statement, I'll go first

"Manchester should be ethnically Cleansed"

Let the bombing begin......
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Ok.

Ethnics. You Brits all have crooked teeth, and you all really need dentists over there. You Irish should stop eating corn beef and cabbage and get a tan. Oh, and you're all fat, drink beer too much and really need to grow a few inches as you're all just about over 4 feet, and that's just your women.


Sorry, I slipped into Yank mode there.

Theres an insult in there somewhere i'll read it for a sixth time and see if I spot it....
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Postby Kharhaz » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:14 pm

drink beer too much


There it is, you can NEVER drink too much !
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Postby t batty(_Y_) » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:27 pm

somebody just knocked on my door an said

trick or treat
trick or treat
afro carribean centre
me cum 4 di money

they knocking on people door for the money an they aint even kids
they didnt even want d sweets o offered
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:27 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
drink beer too much


There it is, you can NEVER drink too much !

It's actually a compliment.
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:17 pm

so what did i miss?
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:23 pm

wtf... i was actually agreeing with Wilhelmson for a bit...kind of. ok hes as elequent as a hippo on acid but i agree with some of his statements and you guys absolutely bullied him...

then he made the hospital comment.. wtf was that about!

as for immigration. of course theres too fricking many!!! its a population thing more than anything. we are building more and more flats and there are too many people in each area (london, north london very worse than anywhere) i dont care if they take our jobs. if more of 'us' got off our :censored:'es wed have the jobs. the government should stop giving so many lazy bar stewards money, get our population working, then let in others if we need them.

there is nothing racist about being patriotic tho, but the hospital quote Wil, that was just stoopid.
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Postby Kharhaz » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:40 pm

I thought he was just having a dig at the poles, turned out he hates everybody ! At least us english are okkk.
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:56 pm

dawson99 wrote:wtf... i was actually agreeing with Wilhelmson for a bit...kind of. ok hes as elequent as a hippo on acid but i agree with some of his statements and you guys absolutely bullied him...

then he made the hospital comment.. wtf was that about!

as for immigration. of course theres too fricking many!!! its a population thing more than anything. we are building more and more flats and there are too many people in each area (london, north london very worse than anywhere) i dont care if they take our jobs. if more of 'us' got off our :censored:'es wed have the jobs. the government should stop giving so many lazy bar stewards money, get our population working, then let in others if we need them.

there is nothing racist about being patriotic tho, but the hospital quote Wil, that was just stoopid.

He was going all round the houses trying to defend himself thats why i asked him that question and bang he turnrd himself into

He was a nobhead i actualy thought he was educated some education he had
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:16 am

Christmas should be 'downgraded' to help race relations says Labour think tank
By JAMES CHAPMAN

National celebration: But could Christmas soon be 'downgraded'?
Christmas should be downgraded in favour of festivals from other religions to improve race relations, says an explosive report.

Labour's favourite think-tank says that because it would be hard to 'expunge' Christmas from the national calendar, 'even-handedness' means public organisations must start giving other religions equal footing.

The leaked findings of its investigation into identity, citizenship and community cohesion also propose:

• 'Birth ceremonies', at which state and parents agree to 'work in partnership' to bring up children

• Action to 'ensure access' for ethnic minorities to 'largely white' countryside

• An overhaul of Britain's 'imperial' honours system

• Bishops being thrown out of the House of Lords

• An end to 'sectarian' religious education

• Flying flags other than the Union Jack.

The report by the Institute for Public Policy Research was commissioned when Nick Pearce, now head of public policy at Downing Street, was its director.

IPPR has shaped many Labour policies, including ID cards, bin taxes and road pricing.

The report robustly defends multiculturalism - the idea that different communities should not be forced to integrate but should be allowed to maintain their own culture and identities.

And it says immigrants should be required to acquire some proficiency in English and other aspects of British culture 'if - but only if - the settled population is willing to open up national institutions and practices to newcomers and give a more inclusive cast to national narratives and symbols'.

It adds: 'Even-handedness dictates that we provide public recognition to minority cultures and traditions.

'If we are going to continue as a nation to mark Christmas - and it would be very hard to expunge it from our national life even if we wanted to - then public organisations should mark other religious festivals too.

'We can no longer define ourselves as a Christian nation, nor an especially religious one in any sense.

'The empire is gone, church attendance is at historically low levels, and the Second World War is inexorably slipping from memory.'

The report, written by IPPR advisers Ben Rogers and Rick Muir, calls on Ministers to launch an 'urgent and upfront campaign' promoting a 'multicultural understanding of Britishness'.

'Multiculturalism can be shown to provide for a fairer and more liberal society and does not necessarily lead to social division and community conflict, as its critics have claimed,' it says.

Councils must act to 'ensure children mix and are able to form friendships with pupils from different backgrounds'.

The report adds: 'Any liberal state should recast the civic oaths and national ceremonies, or institutions like Parliament and the monarchy, in a more multi-religious or secular form and make religious education less sectarian.'

The presence of bishops in the House of Lords, for instance, is condemned as an 'anachronism' that should be removed.

The system in which parents are required to register a new baby at a register office is dismissed as 'purely bureaucratic'.

The occasion should be transformed into a 'public rite', using citizenship ceremonies for immigrants as a model, the report says.

'Parents, their friends and family and the state [would] agree to work in partnership to support and bring up their child.'

Rural Britain, the report complains, 'remains a largely white place'.

Much more needs to be done to 'ensure access' to the countryside for black and ethnic minority groups, disabled people and children from inner-city areas.

Sayeeda Warsi, the Conservative spokesman on community cohesion, said: 'Their comments betray a breathtaking misunderstanding of what it is to be British. These proposals could actually damage cohesion.'

She added: 'You don't build community cohesion by throwing out our history and denying the fundamental contribution Christianity has played and does play to our nation.

'As a British Muslim I can see that - so why others can't just staggers me.'

And she attacked ceremonies to mark the registration of a baby.

'The thought of Gordon Brown sharing responsibility with me for bringing up my children sends a shiver down my spine. I thought we got rid of communism?'

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Postby Kharhaz » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:23 am

It seems to be a regular thing now come xmas. You have the tree, the baubles, the trimmings, the turkey, the cards, the presents, and the "lets ban xmas to respect other religions" headlines.
I pay no heed to it.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:49 am

NANNY RED wrote:
dawson99 wrote:wtf... i was actually agreeing with Wilhelmson for a bit...kind of. ok hes as elequent as a hippo on acid but i agree with some of his statements and you guys absolutely bullied him...

then he made the hospital comment.. wtf was that about!

as for immigration. of course theres too fricking many!!! its a population thing more than anything. we are building more and more flats and there are too many people in each area (london, north london very worse than anywhere) i dont care if they take our jobs. if more of 'us' got off our :censored:'es wed have the jobs. the government should stop giving so many lazy bar stewards money, get our population working, then let in others if we need them.

there is nothing racist about being patriotic tho, but the hospital quote Wil, that was just stoopid.

He was going all round the houses trying to defend himself thats why i asked him that question and bang he turnrd himself into

He was a nobhead i actualy thought he was educated some education he had

nanny don't confuse yourself here, it's wrong to assume that all people with such beliefs are knuckle draggers, many well educated people have strong beliefs about immigration and also refuse to have any dealings with immigrants, it is not an educational thing, its a matter of that persons principals and beliefs and just because people tend to shout them down and call them racist does not make them wrong.

its the irrational beliefs that let people down, but many pro immigration people also have very irrational views.

the fact remains that many immigrants are a drain on the resources of the UK, whilst many also contribute to the economy. just as many white people are a drain on the economy.  it would be foolish to ignore this, sadly many people are scared to speak out as they get bullied like young wills here (ok his comment about hospitals was out of order if taken literally, i wouldn't want to be treated by anyone who didn't know what they were doing whatever their race, but wills took the bait and exploded).

the fact remains that the UK is heading for an even bigger problem, there will come a time when people will find their voices and it will come to a head. I am like most people, i don't mind as long as the immigrants work and fund their lives rather than come in and sponge of the system, I don't care as long as they abide by the laws of the UK, i don't mind as long as they accepted the Britons have a culture that should be respected rather than mocked and changed, and although I am not religious the immigrants should respect the fact that the UK is predominantly christian and as such christian festivals will be held, they are not being held to offend people, they are being held to celebrate christianity, just like Ramadan is held to celebrate islam.

the UK is (as far as i can see) the only place that bends over backwards to accommodate immigrants and their beliefs, and a lot of the time it is done at the expense of the indigenous population and the second and third generation immigrants who have contributed to british society and the economy.

to me it would be very simple, this is britain, these are our beliefs, these are our laws, this is our language, this is our benefits system and you will be allowed access to benefits once you have contributed to the benefits system by way of taxes. This is not harsh, this should be a minimum acceptable standard and if people are not prepared to meet the minimum standard then they are free to try and emigrate elsewhere. thats not racism, thats protecting your own people (again i include the 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants here and their offspring) and protecting your benefits system.

I left england 5 years ago, i learn the language where i live, i abide by the laws, i accept their culture and religion, and i don't expect anything given to me on a plate, its not hard to do, its minimum acceptable standard.

as for the EU where people have the freedom to move around, that should only be allowed where the person has employment and pays local taxes, or alternatively any benefits the claim should be equal to the benefits they can claim in their own country, i read recently about a polish bricklayer working in england, he was getting benefits for his wife and child who were living in poland, he was sending back the benefits which is about twice the average wage in poland, work that out and tell me thats fair (bearing in mind thats coming form your taxes), then tell me immigration causes no problems, it causes more problems than it cures in my opinion
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Postby Kharhaz » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:01 am

peewee wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
dawson99 wrote:wtf... i was actually agreeing with Wilhelmson for a bit...kind of. ok hes as elequent as a hippo on acid but i agree with some of his statements and you guys absolutely bullied him...

then he made the hospital comment.. wtf was that about!

as for immigration. of course theres too fricking many!!! its a population thing more than anything. we are building more and more flats and there are too many people in each area (london, north london very worse than anywhere) i dont care if they take our jobs. if more of 'us' got off our :censored:'es wed have the jobs. the government should stop giving so many lazy bar stewards money, get our population working, then let in others if we need them.

there is nothing racist about being patriotic tho, but the hospital quote Wil, that was just stoopid.

He was going all round the houses trying to defend himself thats why i asked him that question and bang he turnrd himself into

He was a nobhead i actualy thought he was educated some education he had

nanny don't confuse yourself here, it's wrong to assume that all people with such beliefs are knuckle draggers, many well educated people have strong beliefs about immigration and also refuse to have any dealings with immigrants, it is not an educational thing, its a matter of that persons principals and beliefs and just because people tend to shout them down and call them racist does not make them wrong.

its the irrational beliefs that let people down, but many pro immigration people also have very irrational views.

the fact remains that many immigrants are a drain on the resources of the UK, whilst many also contribute to the economy. just as many white people are a drain on the economy.  it would be foolish to ignore this, sadly many people are scared to speak out as they get bullied like young wills here (ok his comment about hospitals was out of order if taken literally, i wouldn't want to be treated by anyone who didn't know what they were doing whatever their race, but wills took the bait and exploded).

the fact remains that the UK is heading for an even bigger problem, there will come a time when people will find their voices and it will come to a head. I am like most people, i don't mind as long as the immigrants work and fund their lives rather than come in and sponge of the system, I don't care as long as they abide by the laws of the UK, i don't mind as long as they accepted the Britons have a culture that should be respected rather than mocked and changed, and although I am not religious the immigrants should respect the fact that the UK is predominantly christian and as such christian festivals will be held, they are not being held to offend people, they are being held to celebrate christianity, just like Ramadan is held to celebrate islam.

the UK is (as far as i can see) the only place that bends over backwards to accommodate immigrants and their beliefs, and a lot of the time it is done at the expense of the indigenous population and the second and third generation immigrants who have contributed to british society and the economy.

to me it would be very simple, this is britain, these are our beliefs, these are our laws, this is our language, this is our benefits system and you will be allowed access to benefits once you have contributed to the benefits system by way of taxes. This is not harsh, this should be a minimum acceptable standard and if people are not prepared to meet the minimum standard then they are free to try and emigrate elsewhere. thats not racism, thats protecting your own people (again i include the 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants here and their offspring) and protecting your benefits system.

I left england 5 years ago, i learn the language where i live, i abide by the laws, i accept their culture and religion, and i don't expect anything given to me on a plate, its not hard to do, its minimum acceptable standard.

as for the EU where people have the freedom to move around, that should only be allowed where the person has employment and pays local taxes, or alternatively any benefits the claim should be equal to the benefits they can claim in their own country, i read recently about a polish bricklayer working in england, he was getting benefits for his wife and child who were living in poland, he was sending back the benefits which is about twice the average wage in poland, work that out and tell me thats fair (bearing in mind thats coming form your taxes), then tell me immigration causes no problems, it causes more problems than it cures in my opinion

I was waiting for that kind of post.

Heres a PM I got from Stu, im sure he wont mind me quoting what he said,

"Appriciate the mention in the post on general chat.

Unfortunately lad, the forum's gone to pot now where you even say poo or black in any context you're automatically carded. There are no characters on there anymore and the ones that are left are being forced out.

People aren't allowed to have debate or heated debate due to the political correctness of everyone and the likes or Rafa-Dodd who complain about every little insult or whatever.

At the end of the day, I often posted to make idiots look like idiots, yet I got banned for it. Stupid posts deserve stupid replys... "

Hate to admit it but Stus right. Where as before we were cool its all a joke now. Heated debates are a no no. Ive mentioned it before and i'll mention it again, its like having new labour in charge of here. Anything controversial results in a card or the topic being locked.

Its not as fun as it used to be.
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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:25 am

So they want Christmas to be downgraded, eh? To suit who? Other religions. Well, they can suck my cock! That's what I say to the other religions and races. No, this is not me being racist, it's me believing that what I grew up with, as with most on this forum, should be cherished and protected for what it is. For what made us what we our, and what gave us our fondest memories. F*cking joke that. It would be like me going to Iraq and demanding a chapel being built and a downgrade of their holy time and politely asking them to remove their head scarfs. What do you think they'd do to me? Yeah. I'd most likely end up like some of those poor b@stards having their heads cut off on the internet.

I've been told from my girlfriend who's in America now, that recently over there, you're instructed at work to not say Merry Christmas. Instead they rehashed it into happy honica instead as to not offend the jew, muslims and whatnot. Try doing that with one of their holy periods. Uproar.

I respect the faiths of others. They should respect the faiths and the ways of the western world if they want to live in it. Simple as that. If they want to make a song and dance about Christmas simply because they feel they are either offended or left out.

I just hate how Christmas is slowing being abused and detracted from it's true meaning. It's just money, money, money. I even hate how people take the word Christ out of Christmas and replace it with an X. That to me is even more insulting than any foreigner with different beliefs wanting concessions made. The whole point of it is to celebrate the birth of a man that preached peace and forgiveness and died on the cross for everyone on this planet regardless of faith or colour. For some to take offense to that just simply offends me and the very idea of it. They can simply get f*cked as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if it offends them. Their problem.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:29 am

honica is jewish mate, i think they say 'happy holiday'
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