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by **Bad Bob** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:28 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

What are you learning in school? Do you think the rest of Europe had their feet up during the wars? WTF?

by **Wilhelmsson** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:29 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Smartest thing you've said all night, lad. There is no such thing. The ancestral Germans you claim fielty to are merely immigrants with seniority. Being British (or Canadian, or Spanish) is something that evolves and changes all the time. You best accept it because no amount of foot stamping or reactionary politics or retrograde immigration policies will prevent that. Rather than fearing different people so much, why not get to know them and appreciate what they bring to a truly cosmopolitan British culture?

I am white, I am English what do I have in common with an immigrant who is not English and has little in common with me?

I do not want to be confronted by their culture on my mother land, if I wanted that I'd go to their country.

by **woof woof !** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:29 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

What about the 20 million russians who died in the conflict ?

by **redtrader74** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:29 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:I am Germanic, therefore I am English through and through, I have the evidence at home.

Love it! Keep 'em coming, lad!

I know Germanic is not proper English, there is no such thing, but it's the closet thing to English, more so than someone from Indian or African heritage.

I suggest you go back to where you came from fcking sponging immigrant

Born here, of indigenous origin and love my country, I am more than with in my right to stay here. Why don't you go home?

I'm as English as warm beer, but you know you are not, in fact you know where you descend from, why not find your real roots, and culture.

by **Wilhelmsson** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:31 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

What are you learning in school? Do you think the rest of Europe had their feet up during the wars? WTF?

Yes, I do not need to acknowledge every nation that fought in WWI and WWII, I know about the Irish, Scots, French, Dutch, Russians.

But the fact is, Europe wouldn't save an Englishman if he was dying, we are scum, just because we owned 1/3 of the world long ago.

And people wonder why we are superior?

by **redtrader74** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:31 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

Those black soldiers also came in handy, i suppose they were good for cannon fodder hey willy?

by **Wilhelmsson** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:33 pm

redtrader74 wrote:Those black soldiers also came in handy, i suppose they were good for cannon fodder hey willy?

Their fight is not disrespected by me, so if you are trying to say that I am racist towards blacks or people of a different background, you would be misinformed as per usual, it would seem.

by **Bad Bob** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:33 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Smartest thing you've said all night, lad. There is no such thing. The ancestral Germans you claim fielty to are merely immigrants with seniority. Being British (or Canadian, or Spanish) is something that evolves and changes all the time. You best accept it because no amount of foot stamping or reactionary politics or retrograde immigration policies will prevent that. Rather than fearing different people so much, why not get to know them and appreciate what they bring to a truly cosmopolitan British culture?

I am white, I am English what do I have in common with an immigrant who is not English and has little in common with me?

I do not want to be confronted by their culture on my mother land, if I wanted that I'd go to their country.

So, is there nothing a white, Englishman can learn from or appreciate in the culture of another? Are you so assured that your culture--a culture, I might add, that is riddled with elements drawn from the decidedly non-white, non-English world thanks to colonialism--is perfect as is? If so, I truly, truly pity you, lad. :no

by **taff** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:36 pm

Ok firstly I hope you get the chance to die for your country. I will wear a poppy with pride and think about you.

I was hoping you were going to fade away but alas no.

The original natives to Britain were celts, these were descended from the Indian subcontinent, although I am talking about a long time ago.

Then the anglo saxons settled, I assume from saxony which is in Germany.

Then the Normans, who were French.

Things kinda settled down for a bit but since we then wandered around the planet discovering things we also bouht some of these chaps back to live here as well.

In the fifties we had large scale immigration from the West Indies to do the terrible jobs we didnt want to do, but it was the least we could do as they happily fought and died to preserve the freedom the British Empire, especially against those other saxon type descendants who were intent on creating the perfect society you dream of.

Then those fellas from India and its neighbouring countries came over. We had curry. Im kinda happy about that.

Now the poles are here to pick potataoes for 4 an hour. I am not that outraged as I wouldnt do that job, but am happy to buy cheap potatoes in the supermarket so I have more disposable income to buy beer served by some Pole, cos I wouldnt work in a bar on a Friday night.

Oh I forgot about Africa. Dont know much about the place except for the fact that humans originated there.

But considering the British argument, well us celts were happy wandering the forests and tripping on the shrooms till you lot turned up, so kindly leave.

And on the subject of potatoes, roast potatoes, mash, chips, cant get more British than that, well thank the lord these vegetables made it past immigration. Can you imagine having fried turnips and cheesy beans when your drunk. Oops no beans sorry, and no tomatoes.

I am also interested in what you define as English culture, could it be the literature of Oscar Wilde and James Joyce, that type of stuff.

by **Wilhelmsson** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:36 pm

Bad Bob wrote:So, is there nothing a white, Englishman can learn from or appreciate in the culture of another? Are you so assured that your culture--a culture, I might add, that is riddled with elements drawn from the decidedly non-white, non-English world thanks to colonialism--is perfect as is? If so, I truly, truly pity you, lad.

If I want to learn about other cultures, I would travel the world, I don't want non English cultures rammed down my throat on my own door step, do you understand this? And I am sure there are elements of other cultures in traditional British society, I don't doubt this for a second, but I like tradition, I am a tory after all and I am a romanticist, this new cosmopolitan Britian is an ugly mess.

by **redtrader74** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:36 pm

You ill educated buffoon do you even have a clue how many Commonwealth Soldiers died for a cause where they're own countries were not even under threat? Read something else other than BNP leaflets.

by **LFC2007** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:38 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

Yes, the yanks did eventually help us out in WWII.

Only after much of Europe had been invaded and decimated by the Nazi's.

The good old yanks who happily sat back and adopted an isolationist policy whilst a crazed dictator was allowed to steam roller Europe.

The good old yanks who only intervened after being attacked directly themselves.

Europe being on its knees suited the yanks, that's the reality.

They profited greatly from supplying us with munitions and other war supplies, with interest on top of that, only repayed in 2006 I believe.

It was Europe who bore the brunt of WWI and WWII, not the yanks.

by **Bad Bob** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:38 pm

taff wrote:Ok firstly I hope you get the chance to die for your country. I will wear a poppy with pride and think about you.

I was hoping you were going to fade away but alas no.

The original natives to Britain were celts, these were descended from the Indian subcontinent, although I am talking about a long time ago.

Then the anglo saxons settled, I assume from saxony which is in Germany.

Then the Normans, who were French.

Things kinda settled down for a bit but since we then wandered around the planet discovering things we also bouht some of these chaps back to live here as well.

In the fifties we had large scale immigration from the West Indies to do the terrible jobs we didnt want to do, but it was the least we could do as they happily fought and died to preserve the freedom the British Empire, especially against those other saxon type descendants who were intent on creating the perfect society you dream of.

Then those fellas from India and its neighbouring countries came over. We had curry. Im kinda happy about that.

Now the poles are here to pick potataoes for 4 an hour. I am not that outraged as I wouldnt do that job, but am happy to buy cheap potatoes in the supermarket so I have more disposable income to buy beer served by some Pole, cos I wouldnt work in a bar on a Friday night.

Oh I forgot about Africa. Dont know much about the place except for the fact that humans originated there.

But considering the British argument, well us celts were happy wandering the forests and tripping on the shrooms till you lot turned up, so kindly leave.

And on the subject of potatoes, roast potatoes, mash, chips, cant get more British than that, well thank the lord these vegetables made it past immigration. Can you imagine having fried turnips and cheesy beans when your drunk. Oops no beans sorry, and no tomatoes.

I am also interested in what you define as English culture, could it be the literature of Oscar Wilde and James Joyce, that type of stuff.

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:38 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:I am Germanic, therefore I am English through and through, I have the evidence at home.

Love it! Keep 'em coming, lad!

I know Germanic is not proper English, there is no such thing, but it's the closet thing to English, more so than someone from Indian or African heritage.

I suggest you go back to where you came from fcking sponging immigrant

Im actually :censored:

crying with laugher hear at some of the comments you are making willy lad, Germanic

me thinks your a g.bsh.te
Let me ask you a question ?
your in hospital theres only african immigrant nurses looking after you, youve got a immigrant in the next bed speaks no english but lives hear do you stay in the room or asked to be moved ?

by **Wilhelmsson** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:39 pm

taff wrote:I am also interested in what you define as English culture, could it be the literature of Oscar Wilde and James Joyce, that type of stuff.

Yes, but I must point out Wilde is Irish, but even so that's what I mean by English or British for want of a better word.

I will fade away, my friend, I shall leave and nought return.

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