I take my life in my hands - Should rafa go?

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I take my life in my hands - Should rafa go!

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Postby 66-1112520797 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:40 am

scoby wrote:team ended up been posted before i finished it

So you we're writing the team out, but somehow your mouse wondered down to the post button and clicked it before you'd have finnished.


Yeah alright  :laugh:
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:52 am

scoby wrote:team ended up been posted before i finished it

And it still turned out bollocks  :laugh:
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Postby scoby » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:01 am

maybe ur supporting the wrong club then if ya reckon it turned out bollox

afterall we used 433 formation lately n it is playing to our strenghts instead of our weakness's
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Postby Kharhaz » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:01 am

LFC2007 wrote:
scoby wrote:team ended up been posted before i finished it

And it still turned out bollocks  :laugh:

:wwww yeah what a bummer !
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Postby Kharhaz » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:03 am

scoby wrote:maybe ur supporting the wrong club then if ya reckon it turned out bollox

afterall we used 433 formation lately n it is playing to our strenghts instead of our weakness's

Would that be our recent formation against Arsenal per chance?
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Postby scoby » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:06 am

yeah n betiskeas aswell n rafa has used in in the later stages of some matches aswell
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Postby Kharhaz » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:11 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Shankly loved Liverpool and it was his love for the club and city that made him successful. If you didnt play for the club then you were out on your ear. Its no surprise to see the legends of old speak so passionately about the club, shankly drummed it into them everyday of there playing careers.

Spot on

There was no prima donnas then i no it most proberbly coulndt happen now but when even a top player signed for us he would have a short spell in the reserves to actually learn the Liverpool way drum in  what it means to play for the shirt not your :censored: millions of pounds a year footballers who go running to the papers if theve been dropped

Bring back the good old days

Shankly converted Ray Kennedy from a striker, signed from Arsenal into one of the best midfielders this club has seen, maybe rafa can do the same with Kuyt ?
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Postby Bad Bob » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:24 am

Kharhaz wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Shankly loved Liverpool and it was his love for the club and city that made him successful. If you didnt play for the club then you were out on your ear. Its no surprise to see the legends of old speak so passionately about the club, shankly drummed it into them everyday of there playing careers.

Spot on

There was no prima donnas then i no it most proberbly coulndt happen now but when even a top player signed for us he would have a short spell in the reserves to actually learn the Liverpool way drum in  what it means to play for the shirt not your :censored: millions of pounds a year footballers who go running to the papers if theve been dropped

Bring back the good old days

Shankly converted Ray Kennedy from a striker, signed from Arsenal into one of the best midfielders this club has seen, maybe rafa can do the same with Kuyt ?

Sorry, mate, but his touch is nowhere near good enough and his crossing is average at best (presuming you thought of him playing RM, given our over-abundance of CMs).
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Postby Kharhaz » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:39 am

Bad Bob wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Shankly loved Liverpool and it was his love for the club and city that made him successful. If you didnt play for the club then you were out on your ear. Its no surprise to see the legends of old speak so passionately about the club, shankly drummed it into them everyday of there playing careers.

Spot on

There was no prima donnas then i no it most proberbly coulndt happen now but when even a top player signed for us he would have a short spell in the reserves to actually learn the Liverpool way drum in  what it means to play for the shirt not your :censored: millions of pounds a year footballers who go running to the papers if theve been dropped

Bring back the good old days

Shankly converted Ray Kennedy from a striker, signed from Arsenal into one of the best midfielders this club has seen, maybe rafa can do the same with Kuyt ?

Sorry, mate, but his touch is nowhere near good enough and his crossing is average at best (presuming you thought of him playing RM, given our over-abundance of CMs).

But thats judging him as a striker, his contribution in midfield could be very different, he doesnt have the pressure of hitting the target in midfield, he just has to be himself.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:33 am

Kharhaz wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Shankly loved Liverpool and it was his love for the club and city that made him successful. If you didnt play for the club then you were out on your ear. Its no surprise to see the legends of old speak so passionately about the club, shankly drummed it into them everyday of there playing careers.

Spot on

There was no prima donnas then i no it most proberbly coulndt happen now but when even a top player signed for us he would have a short spell in the reserves to actually learn the Liverpool way drum in  what it means to play for the shirt not your :censored: millions of pounds a year footballers who go running to the papers if theve been dropped

Bring back the good old days

Shankly converted Ray Kennedy from a striker, signed from Arsenal into one of the best midfielders this club has seen, maybe rafa can do the same with Kuyt ?

Sorry, mate, but his touch is nowhere near good enough and his crossing is average at best (presuming you thought of him playing RM, given our over-abundance of CMs).

But thats judging him as a striker, his contribution in midfield could be very different, he doesnt have the pressure of hitting the target in midfield, he just has to be himself.

mate he has a first touch like a 16 year old virgin, too hard and too far, he has the control of an 80 year old incontinence sufferer and the finishing of a blind painter.

he is one player i would gladly see in rotation, as long as it was a revolving door. quite frankly how he get picked ahead of crouch, my nana, and the bloke down the road who stood on a landmine once is beyond me. he has no pace, no vision and no skill, all he has is the ability to run around and look ugly, in fact he will be the only man in liverpool tomorrow without the need for fancy dress   :D
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:49 am

mate he has a first touch like a 16 year old virgin, too hard and too far, he has the control of an 80 year old incontinence sufferer and the finishing of a blind painter.

he is one player i would gladly see in rotation, as long as it was a revolving door. quite frankly how he get picked ahead of crouch, my nana, and the bloke down the road who stood on a landmine once is beyond me. he has no pace, no vision and no skill, all he has is the ability to run around and look ugly, in fact he will be the only man in liverpool tomorrow without the need for fancy dress


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Postby Leonmc0708 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:18 am

s@int wrote:I am still not sure what it would take for people like Sabre or Leon to say "ok Rafa's had a go and can't take us any further, time to look elsewhere."

I have said if we don't make progress this season it may be time to re-assess , certainly I would hope questions would be asked. That was my answer btw.

Seriously what would it take Sabre and Leon?

Absolute BARE minimum would be the rest of the season.

How can you say he cant do it unless you give him at least a full season ?

Many people thought this was the season we would push on, (I thought we would get closer persoanlly) so until this season we CAN NOT win the league how can anyone pass judgement ?
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:32 am

Kharhaz wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Shankly loved Liverpool and it was his love for the club and city that made him successful. If you didnt play for the club then you were out on your ear. Its no surprise to see the legends of old speak so passionately about the club, shankly drummed it into them everyday of there playing careers.

Spot on

There was no prima donnas then i no it most proberbly coulndt happen now but when even a top player signed for us he would have a short spell in the reserves to actually learn the Liverpool way drum in  what it means to play for the shirt not your :censored: millions of pounds a year footballers who go running to the papers if theve been dropped

Bring back the good old days

Shankly converted Ray Kennedy from a striker, signed from Arsenal into one of the best midfielders this club has seen, maybe rafa can do the same with Kuyt ?

Ray Kennedy was signed on the day that Shankly quit as manager. HE was the last player Shankly signed, but never played under him.

It was Bob Paisley who picked him for the first game of his Liverpool career, 31st August 1974 against Chelsea.
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Postby woof woof ! » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:39 am

Leonmc0708 wrote:Many people thought this was the season we would push on, (I thought we would get closer persoanlly) so until this season we CAN NOT win the league how can anyone pass judgement ?

At the start of the season loads of people including me thought that for the first time in a very long time we had a realistic chance of winning the premiership. We got off to a flyer and the optomism seemed well founded . Since then however the wheels have come off and with the latest injuries to hit the squad we'll be lucky to remain in contention, we may well find ourselves struggling just to secure a top four finish.

A key season for Rafa, one that could very well define both his and LFC's future. Given the investment made in Rafa by the new owners I doubt that failure to win the league this season would prompt them to seek an alternative manager. If we pick up any kind of trophy and finish in the top four I'm convinced Rafa will still be leading us at the start of the next season, and I wouldn't have a problem with that (although he sometimes drives me nuts with his team selection  :D). But as has been said by many, judge the man (if you must) at the end of the season, as will the owners , not one third of the way into it .
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:52 am

woof woof ! wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:Many people thought this was the season we would push on, (I thought we would get closer persoanlly) so until this season we CAN NOT win the league how can anyone pass judgement ?

At the start of the season loads of people including me thought that for the first time in a very long time we had a realistic chance of winning the premiership. We got off to a flyer and the optomism seemed well founded . Since then however the wheels have come off and with the latest injuries to hit the squad we'll be lucky to remain in contention, we may well find ourselves struggling just to secure a top four finish.

A key season for Rafa, one that could very well define both his and LFC's future. Given the investment made in Rafa by the new owners I doubt that failure to win the league this season would prompt them to seek an alternative manager. If we pick up any kind of trophy and finish in the top four I'm convinced Rafa will still be leading us at the start of the next season, and I wouldn't have a problem with that (although he sometimes drives me nuts with his team selection  :D). But as has been said by many, judge the man (if you must) at the end of the season, as will the owners , not one third of the way into it .

Exactly the reasons you have mentioned are why we cant pass judgement now.

Look at the players he has lost already this season. Gerrard for approx 3 weeks, Carragher for 3 weeks, Torres for 6 weeks, Alonso for 6 weeks and Agger for 5 weeks.

The season is only 13 weeks old.
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