Liverpool FC Forum

peewee wrote:personally i dont want to see rafa go, but i wont be devastated if he does go, especially for the good of the club, if he cant win the league then he will have to go.

i am wondering at what point will the people who praise rafa at every point realise that rafa will not win the league (assuming he doesn't)and start to call for change, how many years will it take of the same excuses about injuries, building a squad, etc etc etc

just wondering, or would you rather persist with him forever winning the odd cup and fighting for fourth place. there comes a time when that has to stop and people need to admit he isn't everything some of you think he is

Peewee , you know aswell as i do mate , that the majority of fans with half a brain will know when Rafa is not doing the job . You say yourself you don't want him to go . I think most fans will give him until the end of the season atleast and see where we are at. You know where i stand on this one , i firmly believe he is the right man for the job and we will win the league under his management.

Red Dotty wrote:

Ola Mr Benitez wrote:I think NO.  Benitez is a great manager, but that doesnt mean I think he is faultless or even in need of a bit of help.  I feel someone needs to take over the man management side of the job.

Thats my opinion.

If you vote please give your reasons, and matbe if you vote no, who would you prefer??

WTF

Why oh why do these sort of threads keep getting posted.

We are unbeaten in the league we have had the best start to the league for sometime

It would be nice for another champions league glory run but i would prefer us to get knocked out and concentrate on the league.

I voted NO 

heimdall wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:Rafa is vital to Lfc and he's dragged us out of the stagnation of the Houllier era. Those who are questioning his future are nothing more than plastics and if they don't like it, they can go back to supporting Chavski or Arsenal or whoever else they did prior to our CL win.

Fecking hell I'm getting bored of this childish attitude that just because you don't want to w8nk over a picture of Rafa then you are not a proper fan!!
I am not a plastic fan, well if you call 16 years plastic then I suppose I am!! I've never supported any other team and don't ever intend to, I love LFC as much as any fan on here, I just have a different point of view which isn't based on blind devotion!!

7_Kewell wrote:

heimdall wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:Rafa is vital to Lfc and he's dragged us out of the stagnation of the Houllier era. Those who are questioning his future are nothing more than plastics and if they don't like it, they can go back to supporting Chavski or Arsenal or whoever else they did prior to our CL win.

Fecking hell I'm getting bored of this childish attitude that just because you don't want to w8nk over a picture of Rafa then you are not a proper fan!!
I am not a plastic fan, well if you call 16 years plastic then I suppose I am!! I've never supported any other team and don't ever intend to, I love LFC as much as any fan on here, I just have a different point of view which isn't based on blind devotion!!

sorry heimdall, this wasn't aimed at you personally.

I've just met a few plastics either at matches or in the pub who seem to think Rafa should go simply because we've lost 1 match

so what your saying is, if i dont go to anfield and watch liverpool from a pub or my living room im plastic? the people who dont get to see liverpool pump as much money into liverpool as any of you that goes to the stadium, i still buy the jerseys and other merchandise, i have been supporting liverpool for 21 years since i was nine, like the other poster said i dont intend to support another team. i am not plastice, and nor are others just because they dont go to anfield everyweek. 

Igor Zidane wrote:

peewee wrote:personally i dont want to see rafa go, but i wont be devastated if he does go, especially for the good of the club, if he cant win the league then he will have to go.

i am wondering at what point will the people who praise rafa at every point realise that rafa will not win the league (assuming he doesn't)and start to call for change, how many years will it take of the same excuses about injuries, building a squad, etc etc etc

just wondering, or would you rather persist with him forever winning the odd cup and fighting for fourth place. there comes a time when that has to stop and people need to admit he isn't everything some of you think he is

Peewee , you know aswell as i do mate , that the majority of fans with half a brain will know when Rafa is not doing the job . You say yourself you don't want him to go . I think most fans will give him until the end of the season atleast and see where we are at. You know where i stand on this one , i firmly believe he is the right man for the job and we will win the league under his management.

oh i don't know, some people are still lauding houllier   

Owzat wrote:Some pr at on a mixed fan forum reckoned "Jol couldn't do any worse than Rafa" ! Yeah right, I guess Jol took spudz to two Champions League finals and won one, won the FA Cup, runners-up in the League Cup and finished has finished above Arsenal two seasons in a row - and we just didn't notice! Don't think Rafa has ever taken us as low as the relegation zone either.

But not everything is going well and while we're not out of the title race (or even the champions league) yet, we're hardly in pole position. We are unbeaten but so are Arsenal and beaten teams are above us so things could be a lot better. Last season was a disappointment in the wake of a first go Champions League and relative second season success. Have we progressed or simply stagnated? Has Rafa spent wisely? Has Rafa sorted the main problems? If he has then why do we still need another top striker, another CB and wide players worthy of Liverpool FC? Torres is a vast improvement on what we had before, Benayoun looks a good player but I'm not convinced he couldn't have spent the rest more wisely. And I reckon he needs those four sorting in January with perhaps Aurelio, Kewell, Sissoko, Crouch and Pennant sold to raise some funds. If only Rafa had forked out more on players like Quaresma and not bothered with the likes of Pennant.

Toffeehater wrote:u're not really a big pennant fan right ?? it's not easy to perform when u know u're not gonna be a guaranteed a place in the line up , week in and week out ..

But yes i do feel that the players except pennant should be sold and a quality winger should be brought in , mainly quaresma but i doubt that move is likely

7_Kewell wrote:

heimdall wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:Rafa is vital to Lfc and he's dragged us out of the stagnation of the Houllier era. Those who are questioning his future are nothing more than plastics and if they don't like it, they can go back to supporting Chavski or Arsenal or whoever else they did prior to our CL win.

Fecking hell I'm getting bored of this childish attitude that just because you don't want to w8nk over a picture of Rafa then you are not a proper fan!!
I am not a plastic fan, well if you call 16 years plastic then I suppose I am!! I've never supported any other team and don't ever intend to, I love LFC as much as any fan on here, I just have a different point of view which isn't based on blind devotion!!

sorry heimdall, this wasn't aimed at you personally.

I've just met a few plastics either at matches or in the pub who seem to think Rafa should go simply because we've lost 1 match

Red wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

heimdall wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:Rafa is vital to Lfc and he's dragged us out of the stagnation of the Houllier era. Those who are questioning his future are nothing more than plastics and if they don't like it, they can go back to supporting Chavski or Arsenal or whoever else they did prior to our CL win.

Fecking hell I'm getting bored of this childish attitude that just because you don't want to w8nk over a picture of Rafa then you are not a proper fan!!
I am not a plastic fan, well if you call 16 years plastic then I suppose I am!! I've never supported any other team and don't ever intend to, I love LFC as much as any fan on here, I just have a different point of view which isn't based on blind devotion!!

sorry heimdall, this wasn't aimed at you personally.

I've just met a few plastics either at matches or in the pub who seem to think Rafa should go simply because we've lost 1 match

so what your saying is, if i dont go to anfield and watch liverpool from a pub or my living room im plastic? the people who dont get to see liverpool pump as much money into liverpool as any of you that goes to the stadium, i still buy the jerseys and other merchandise, i have been supporting liverpool for 21 years since i was nine, like the other poster said i dont intend to support another team. i am not plastice, and nor are others just because they dont go to anfield everyweek. 

s@int wrote:

I may not have been there during the dalgish era but i do know the history of this great club 19 pl titles 5 cl titles is a great record

It will be mate..... when we win the title this season, but until then lets just stick to 18 titles eh.

can 't believed i missed that sorry accidentally pressed the wrong button , thx saint for pointing it out 

Toffeehater wrote:

s@int wrote:

I may not have been there during the dalgish era but i do know the history of this great club 19 pl titles 5 cl titles is a great record

It will be mate..... when we win the title this season, but until then lets just stick to 18 titles eh.

can 't believed i missed that sorry accidentally pressed the wrong button , thx saint for pointing it out 

No problem mate, I have recently learned the dangers of quoting stats and facts myself