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Liverpool v. Arsenal Match Thread (Oct. 28, 2007) - AKA The Kiss Wenger's @rse Thread

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Postby Bad Bob » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:59 pm

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Lando_Griffin wrote:If you take net spending into account, then divide it by each season, Wenger has outspent Rafa.

That's the only stat you can possibly use.

That’s not much of a point considering Wenger has been at Arsenal for over a decade and Rafa has been at Liverpool for less than half of a decade.

Errrm, that's kind of the point of dividing total spending by number of seasons managing--it gives a picture of net spending/year which makes it easier to compare the spending power of two managers who have been at their respective teams for different lengths of time.
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Postby Wilhelmsson » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:06 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Errrm, that's kind of the point of dividing total spending by number of seasons managing--it gives a picture of net spending/year which makes it easier to compare the spending power of two managers who have been at their respective teams for different lengths of time.

Wenger has more net spends because he has been at Arsenal significantly longer than Benitez has been at Liverpool. It’s also hard to come to such a conclusion when most of Arsenal’s deals are reported as undisclosed fees.

Also, what has net spending got to do with anything when comparing Wenger to Benitez? Why is the comparison needed? Benitez has a long way to go before he achieves what Wenger has achieved in England.
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Postby Bad Bob » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:17 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Errrm, that's kind of the point of dividing total spending by number of seasons managing--it gives a picture of net spending/year which makes it easier to compare the spending power of two managers who have been at their respective teams for different lengths of time.

Wenger has more net spends because he has been at Arsenal significantly longer than Benitez has been at Liverpool. It’s also hard to come to such a conclusion when most of Arsenal’s deals are reported as undisclosed fees.

Also, what has net spending got to do with anything when comparing Wenger to Benitez? Why is the comparison needed? Benitez has a long way to go before he achieves what Wenger has achieved in England.

All valid points...I was just correcting your maths!  :p
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Postby Wilhelmsson » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:21 pm

What maths? I didn’t use any maths to my knowledge, after your post and the Halle Berry one, I’m confused, and I’m going to have a power nap now.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:22 pm

Peter Hill-Wood, Arsenal chairman, "Arsène's basically spent, since he's been with us, £4m to £5m a year net. 
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Postby Cool Hand Luke » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:35 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:If you take net spending into account, then divide it by each season, Wenger has outspent Rafa.

That's the only stat you can possibly use.

Lets see some stats to back that up.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:49 pm

Arsenal

season       bought(M)           sold(M)            net(M)

2007/8       6                        3                   3
2006/7       12                      28               -16
2005/6      21                       14                  7
2004/5        1                        3                 -2
2003/4      16                        0                 16
2002/3        7                        5                  2

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Postby bigmick » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:19 pm

So am I being daft here or does that mean he's spent 10 mill' in six seasons? Feck me sideways.
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Postby Sabre » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:34 pm

Yesteryear in Anfield, we won 4-1 against them. Crouch, scored a hat trick and was a hero. He played as a lone striker, with Steven Gerrard doing the second striker role (which in my view was an attacking midfielder). Agger scored aswell.

I wonder, given the apparent (have not seen them this season) attacking football they practise, will try Rafa the same approach that he tried back then? So far this season Rafa has only used 442 if I recall correctly. Personally for some games I do like that formation we used against Arsenal. I wonder if the reason for we haven't switched to that formation are the injuries we are having, as Gato Busta suggested, or because Rafa didn't like the experiments last season.

Will Crouch appear?

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Postby StevenGrady » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:13 pm

I'll go for 2-1 to Liverpool.

Torres and Gerrard :D
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:13 pm

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Postby KOPMATT » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:25 pm

Reina

                                                   Finnan        Carragher  Hyppia(Agger if fit) Arbeloa

                                                  Gerrard           Alonso       Masherano   Kewell

                                                                      Torres        Babel


This would be my team for Sunday.
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Postby Kharhaz » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:28 pm

KOPMATT wrote:Reina

                                                   Finnan        Carragher  Hyppia(Agger if fit) Arbeloa

                                                  Gerrard           Alonso       Masherano   Kewell

                                                                      Torres        Babel


This would be my team for Sunday.

So reina would be sat in the stand?
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Postby KOPMATT » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:34 pm

LOL I couldn't seem to get him where I wanted him:D
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Postby Kharhaz » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:36 pm

KOPMATT wrote:LOL I couldn't seem to get him where I wanted him:D

Little bugger keeps wandering doesnt he? :D
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