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by **heimdall** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:00 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:Sabre, Bob, i think something has gone on either in training or behind closed doors anyway.
He will get more minutes than he has been getting because Rafa will have to...to protect the other players.
But he seems to genuinley either lost faith in him...or is annoyed by his attitude in training or something, there is no other explanation to him being so brutally discarded.

You mean apart from Crouch being :censored:

by **Sabre** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:02 pm

inglis5 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:woooooooooooooooooahhhhhhhhhhhh you've got the worst midfield in the world...
coz Carsley's a slaphead,
Neville's an inbred,
and Cahill's a fuckin @rsehoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooole.

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read

Ciggy is lazy this season. Yesteryear she had some pre match rants, with big size fonts. I couldn't help to notice that when she did a rant, we won.

Hope she recovers the rant tradition before the match.

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:09 pm

heimdall wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Sabre, Bob, i think something has gone on either in training or behind closed doors anyway.
He will get more minutes than he has been getting because Rafa will have to...to protect the other players.
But he seems to genuinley either lost faith in him...or is annoyed by his attitude in training or something, there is no other explanation to him being so brutally discarded.

You mean apart from Crouch being

Bet your were saying that last season when he scored his hat-trick against Arsenal, and the overhead kicks against Bolton and Galatasaray werent you.

Yeah right you were :no

by **heimdall** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:09 pm

We really really need to win this game tomorrow or at least not draw. I'd actually be fairly happy just going there and packign the midfield to shut them out, loosing would be devastating for morale.

I'll go for a really scrappy 2-1 win to us.

by **heimdall** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:19 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Sabre, Bob, i think something has gone on either in training or behind closed doors anyway.
He will get more minutes than he has been getting because Rafa will have to...to protect the other players.
But he seems to genuinley either lost faith in him...or is annoyed by his attitude in training or something, there is no other explanation to him being so brutally discarded.

You mean apart from Crouch being

Bet your were saying that last season when he scored his hat-trick against Arsenal, and the overhead kicks against Bolton and Galatasaray werent you.

Yeah right you were

And I'll be just as happy for him to prove me wrong again but in all honesty Crouch really isn't very good, at least not this year.

by **redmikey** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:16 pm

i hope it is the luckiest goals ever seen , i would love everton to have the derby of their lives and lose to a spoucy goal

or for us to realize that a good start is nothing without a good middle and end to a season, i have seen sammy lee mentioned as a coach at liverpool again to give the player a good cop to confide in when rafa is on the war path, and that can't be a bad thing

4-0 tommorrow or a lucky 1-0 i am not arsed

by **europian-kings** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:42 pm

cant wait for this game!
wake up at 11ish, have a shower, grab a few cheeky buds sit on sofa and watch the mighty reds =] (hopefully win)
i am hoping this derby is what gerrard needs to get back to his best.
a goal from stevie lad will boost his confidence big time!
does anyone know if torres is fit to play yet?
if he is and alonso isnt this would be my team prediction.

reina: going to be the number 1 keeper for us all season.

finnan: experience

arbeloa: playing well this season in the left back position.

carragherr: obvious reasons

hyypia: as far as im awar agger is stil out

pennant: he will run at everton deffence and cause problems

riise: not as skilful as pennant but can still beat defenders and get a decent ball in or smash one into top corner

gerrard: obvious reasons

mascherano: although sissoko hasnt actually been sent off yet for us i have a feeling he would get an early yellow card and cause me to bite my nails for 80 mins. mashcerano for me.

torres (if fit): obvious reasons

crouch: kuyt not 100% fit and i doubt benitez will play 2 80% fit strikers together.

2-0 liverpool gerrard and torres

by **R_us** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:25 pm

i play bet to this match for reds win... im bjk fan but i really want that reds smahses everton down tomorrow...

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:49 pm

Jamies well up for it at least hes got his :censored:

priorities right

Liverpool Echo

JAMIE CARRAGHER has a mental checklist to work through whenever the new season's fixtures are announced every summer.

The first match, obviously. Then the first home game, followed by the clashes with Manchester United. But most of all, the date and venue of the first Merseyside derby.

"I've always said that for me, as soon as the fixtures come out, I look forward to see when the Everton game is," he declared.

"For local lads like myself and Stevie, it's probably the most important game of the season."

The derby match has always meant more to the local players - from the days when Dixie Dean would send a bottle of aspirin to Elisha Scott on the eve of pre-war showdowns, to seventies slugfests when Jimmy Case, Mick Lyons and co. would kick lavatory doors, head ceilings and butt dressing room doors before running out.

But for Carragher, this season's Goodison clash is loaded with even more personal significance.

"Certainly for me, tomorrow's game will be massively important," he declared.

"We definitely owe them one after last year. The team, the club and me personally.

"I was very poor in the Goodison derby last year. I did alright in the Anfield one, which made up for it a little bit, but with the first one this year being back at Goodison again it makes it a very big game.

"It's probably as low as I've ever felt in football after that game.

"I've lost in a couple of cup finals and had other ups and downs, but last season against Everton was probably as low as I've ever felt because of the score, because I made a big mistake for one of the goals and because I played poorly."

There were mitigating circumstances surrounding Carragher's part in Everton's crucial second goal last September.

He'd missed three weeks football after collecting an injury on the opening day of the season at Bramall Lane and shouldn't have been any closer to the action at Goodison Park than a place in the stand.

But his burning desire to be involved let his heart rule his head.

"I'd been injured and came back too early," he admitted "but I was desperate to play in the game. I probably let the manager and the players down because I wasn't ready to play in a game of that magnitude.

"Maybe I was a bit selfish because I was that desperate to play in it. I came into it cold and it showed. But it's something I'll never do again."

Certainly this year, Carragher will be far better prepared.

While his international club-mates faced a clash against Estonia last Saturday, then a 3,000 mile round-trip to Moscow for a demoralising European Championship defeat on a plastic pitch, he was left behind at Melwood.

The decision to hang up his international boots was entirely his own, and it meant he has been able to work carefully on his derby preparations all week.

There was even one day, with the reserves playing later that evening, that he was the only senior player left working with boss Rafa Benitez at Melwood.

"I've made my decision regarding the international scene and hopefully that will benefit me in the build-up to this match," he explained.

"Players from Everton and Liverpool have been travelling back from Russia this week. I've been back here, which has helped my preparation and that's one of the reasons I made my decision."

It's a decision which should serve Carragher well over the next nine days - a period which could prove pivotal to Liverpool's entire season.

Following tomorrow's domestic set-to at Goodison, the Reds travel to Turkey for a clash of crucial significance to their European aspirations, before the Premier League's two remaining unbeaten records could go on the line when Arsenal visit Anfield the following Sunday.

Not that Carragher will get ahead of himself.

"The manager's very big on taking each game as it comes," he added. "That's the first one and we have to forget about the Beskitas and Arsenal games until Saturday is over.

"It's a massive game for both clubs and I certainly won't be looking any further ahead than that one.

"Both teams will be looking at this fixture as a game which can really give their season a lift and to go on from there.

"Both sides will be looking at it to kickstart the season.

"But I love it, the atmosphere, the whole build-up, everything. You know you're going to come under pressure and you have to stand up to it."

So is he relieved that last season's Goodison nemesis, Andy Johnson, will miss this season's return through injury?

"I'm not bothered," he added. "If they have players out it might give us an advantage, but we might have players out as well.

"Whoever plays, it will be a difficult game - it always is at Goodison because of the crowd whipping things up.

"We know they always raise their game anyway. But we're ready."

And ready to exact revenge . . .

by **t batty(_Y_)** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:22 am

im sure that you will score at least 2 goals

but you'll lose 4-2

by **t batty(_Y_)** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:24 am

it should be a great game an im really looking forward to it cah i know that somebody dropping points an they both is in the top half

cah it a derby anytink can happen

by **drunknmunky** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:21 am

Torres is not playing, would've loved to see him score a few but if he's not fit then theres no point risking him. We have 2 more very big games after this one, hopefully he'll be ready for them. We have enough quality players and should give them a good spanking, this game has come at the right time, just when our players need a kick up the :censored:

, this should get them going. I expect to see Gerrard and Carra fully fired up for this one.

4-0

by **jeffiroquai** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:29 am

This is the type of game we got Voronin for. Hard fought, players kicking each other all over the pitch. I would put him up front with Crouch and see how the first half comes about. Alonso is essential for this tandem to work. If he is out, Crouch and Kuyt. Put Torres on the shelf until next match, and make sure he is fit.

by **drunknmunky** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:41 am

Torres failed a medical and is defo out, Alonso possibly come on a sub as I can't see him starting. Gerrard and Sissoko in the middle??? This is the type of game Momo is built for and Gerrard needs no motivation for this one, need a real captains performance from him. Kuyt and Voro up front, if voro doesn't play, we'll have no pace what so ever up front.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:12 am

Derby day nerves been up for an hour already couldnt sleep my stomachs all over the place.

CMON U REDMEN.

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