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by **Forever_Red** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:24 pm

I had a lecture today on the law on negligence and the lecturer decided that a good example would be the Hillsborough disaster, he sat there telling us about how the police weren't negligent and all of this bulls**t.

I gave it my best shot at correcting him and he knew I wasn't happy about what he was saying, he then tried to tell everyone that the stories the sun published were true (obviously not stating they were from the sun)

Then he said 95 people lost their lives! what a f.ucking w@nker

Sorry for starting a new topic about this quite i am really annoyed

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by **dawson99** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:27 pm

Some teachers are clueless. i had an american teacher in school who told me that America in vietnam was courageous and that the vietnamese started it all. i went from an a student to being kicked out of the class for the verbal assault i dished out.

what your teacher said tho was inexcusable as a lecturer but watch how you deal with it as you dont wanna get kicked out, use the proper channels tho if you want something done but dont do anything rash

by **Roger Red Hat** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:48 pm

wait for him after class and kick 7 shades out of him.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:31 pm

Did you tell him he was talking bollox? Because I would have straight up.

I'd a similar experience in art college when a w@anker of a teacher tried to tell me that Rembrandt and Di Vinci weren't good painters or artists. That was all I needed to hear, really. This coming from a man that makes prints of stuff wrapped in string that he just finds sitting about, like model airplanes and nails and calls it art, and has the bollox to critisis people with real skill. Coincidently, I was a lot better than him or any of the tutors, so I told him to get f*cked and left the course.

by **dawson99** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:36 pm

but if you want to a: continue your course and b: not go to prison, then go through things officially. trust me mate, dont let this plum of an excuse of a teacher ruin your education.

by **Leonmc0708** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:48 pm

Forever_Red wrote:I had a lecture today on the law on negligence and the lecturer decided that a good example would be the Hillsborough disaster, he sat there telling us about how the police weren't negligent and all of this bulls**t.

I gave it my best shot at correcting him and he knew I wasn't happy about what he was saying, he then tried to tell everyone that the stories the sun published were true (obviously not stating they were from the sun)

Then he said 95 people lost their lives! what a f.ucking w@nker

Sorry for starting a new topic about this quite i am really annoyed

Rant over

College ?

by **Reinas No.1 Fan** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:07 pm

Lee J wrote:wait for him after class and kick 7 shades out of him.

thats not the way we should do things

by **Wilhelmsson** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:08 pm

I can see why you are angry, as a Liverpool supporter first and a compassionate human being second. I think it’s important to realise that not everyone will see the disaster in the same light as Liverpool fans do.

Your lecturer might well have read up on Hillsborough and forged his own conclusion from what he has read, he is wrong, but that’s his opinion and he has a right to voice it.

If you feel strongly about what he has said during the lecture, than I’d advise you to talk to the head of your department and take matters from a more senior level. If you decide to take him head on, you’ll lose any point you’re trying to make.

by **LFC2007** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:03 pm

Do your homework, ace your exams, then nut him.

by **Ace Ventura** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:25 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:I can see why you are angry, as a Liverpool supporter first and a compassionate human being second. I think it’s important to realise that not everyone will see the disaster in the same light as Liverpool fans do.

Your lecturer might well have read up on Hillsborough and forged his own conclusion from what he has read, he is wrong, but that’s his opinion and he has a right to voice it.

If you feel strongly about what he has said during the lecture, than I’d advise you to talk to the head of your department and take matters from a more senior level. If you decide to take him head on, you’ll lose any point you’re trying to make.

Not when he is teaching students he f'kin doesnt though.
He has the right to his own opinion, but needs to be very careful what he is teaching or lecturing other people.

Absolutely disgraceful.

by **Wilhelmsson** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:45 pm

Yes that’s very true, but I gather from the word lecture, this person is either in college or university education, therefore he is likely to be considered a ‘young adult’. Young Adults are treated differently to younger students, lesson are more informal. Therefore teachers feel more relaxed and will air their views on certain subjects.

People will say things that another will deem, hurtful, abusive or damn right crude, but this is the part of the parcel of life.

If this poster was in the work place and he/she went complaining every time someone said something they deemed offensive, the likelihood of this poster being in employment with the particular company would be severed sooner rather than later.

If I was in this situation, I would have showed the teacher up by using material to prove his opinion as factually inaccurate. I’d hit him where it hurts, the likelihood of the teacher being punished for such an opinion is not certain.

If the poster is lurking around, gather information together in a document form and hand them to him tomorrow or hand out leaflets to your class, which should anger him, but remember, you are merely expressing fact, so nothing can be done to you.

by **LFC2007** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:48 pm

This is not a matter of opinion, this is gross factual incompetence on the part of the lecturer - a terminable offence.

by **Wilhelmsson** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:16 pm

[quote="LFC2007"][/quote]
In whose eyes though? Us fans? Yes in our eyes what he has said should be sack able offence, but it doesn’t mean this will be the outcome. The senior staff might just take such an incident with a pinch of salt.

There is racism and sexism which exists in the workplace/school place, which goes unnoticed and little or no action is taken, how you can be so sure that Hillsborough will be held by them in a similar regard?

The wisest thing to do is to prove the teacher wrong, he’ll get worked up and there is nothing he can do about it.

by **LFC2007** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:25 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:

In whose eyes though? Us fans? Yes in our eyes what he has said should be sack able offence, but it doesn’t mean this will be the outcome. The senior staff might just take such an incident with a pinch of salt.

There is racism and sexism which exists in the workplace/school place, which goes unnoticed and little or no action is taken, how you can be so sure that Hillsborough will be held by them in a similar regard?

The wisest thing to do is to prove the teacher wrong, he’ll get worked up and there is nothing he can do about it.

I think you're missing the point.

He is using factually incorrect information to justify a legal argument, it's not on.

If what this fella (forever red) says is true, the lecturer should not be in the job.

It's not just a radical opinion, it's factual incompetence.

Sexism/racism is a diffent matter, this is a matter of incompetence.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:03 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:

In whose eyes though? Us fans? Yes in our eyes what he has said should be sack able offence, but it doesn’t mean this will be the outcome. The senior staff might just take such an incident with a pinch of salt.

There is racism and sexism which exists in the workplace/school place, which goes unnoticed and little or no action is taken, how you can be so sure that Hillsborough will be held by them in a similar regard?

The wisest thing to do is to prove the teacher wrong, he’ll get worked up and there is nothing he can do about it.

I think you're missing the point.

He is using factually incorrect information to justify a legal argument, it's not on.

If what this fella (forever red) says is true, the lecturer should not be in the job.

It's not just a radical opinion, it's factual incompetence.

Sexism/racism is a diffent matter, this is a matter of incompetence.

I agree here. He shouldn't be teaching and preaching bollox to vulnerable students. Forever Red shouldn't be afraid to contest this as$hole's "opinion". I certainly would. Though it's clear that if he does, then he should know that if he does it publically, he can't win the argument. Once again, I know this from experience.

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