Lando_Griffin wrote:s@int wrote:Best Torres moment (apart from his goals)Big defender knocked him over challenging for the ball, Torres got up challenged the defender again knocking the defender over, then Torres gives a little smile.
The lad's got it about him to give as good as he gets, and irritate the feck out of defenders, but not let it actually affect his own game. Just ask John Terry.
It's a good mentality to have in this league.
AB's Red Army wrote:Rafa said that when given the space, Torres can do what he did tonight. No such space was given when we played Birmingham, which he knew, and decided not to play him. This was seconded by the legend himself, Ian Rush.
I'm amused to how people believe they know Torre's strengths and weaknesses more than the man, who signed him and has been watching him for a large part of his career.
But there you go. This is a fickle business I guess.
7_Kewell wrote:AB's Red Army wrote:Rafa said that when given the space, Torres can do what he did tonight. No such space was given when we played Birmingham, which he knew, and decided not to play him. This was seconded by the legend himself, Ian Rush.
I'm amused to how people believe they know Torre's strengths and weaknesses more than the man, who signed him and has been watching him for a large part of his career.
But there you go. This is a fickle business I guess.
i hear what you're saying AB, but Torres has the ability to scare theout of a defence...so much so they will send 3 (yes 3!) players to get the ball from him. Obviously RAfa knows his stuff, but Torres today showed that he's our most in form player and i think he'll be in the 1st 11 for a while now
If he had started the Postmouth and Brum games we might have had 6 points instead of 2
AB's Red Army wrote:7_Kewell wrote:AB's Red Army wrote:Rafa said that when given the space, Torres can do what he did tonight. No such space was given when we played Birmingham, which he knew, and decided not to play him. This was seconded by the legend himself, Ian Rush.
I'm amused to how people believe they know Torre's strengths and weaknesses more than the man, who signed him and has been watching him for a large part of his career.
But there you go. This is a fickle business I guess.
i hear what you're saying AB, but Torres has the ability to scare theout of a defence...so much so they will send 3 (yes 3!) players to get the ball from him. Obviously RAfa knows his stuff, but Torres today showed that he's our most in form player and i think he'll be in the 1st 11 for a while now
Did you see the game against Porto? It was a perfect example of a decent team nullifying space and time on the ball for Torres to be effective [and the team wasin general].
Birmingham did the same, except they defended even deeper as the match progressed.
It's pointless to discuss anyway, it's all in the past nowIf he had started the Postmouth and Brum games we might have had 6 points instead of 2
And we might have had the same amount of points even if he played.
I might have been a millionaire had I won the lottery as well.
THat is all.
woof woof ! wrote:Lando_Griffin wrote:Before anyone goes overboard - think on this:
Had Fernando started the Portsmouth and Brum games, chances are he wouldn't have scored the hattrick tonight.
That is all.
On the other hand think on this
If he had started the Postmouth and Brum games we might have had 6 points instead of 2
Thats all
NANNY RED wrote:AB's Red Army wrote:Rafa said that when given the space, Torres can do what he did tonight. No such space was given when we played Birmingham, which he knew, and decided not to play him. This was seconded by the legend himself, Ian Rush.
I'm amused to how people believe they know Torre's strengths and weaknesses more than the man, who signed him and has been watching him for a large part of his career.
But there you go. This is a fickle business I guess.
I agree with what your sayig but dont you think hes trying to prove a point to Rafa aswell drop me at your peril.
If he is to play top notch in the prem he needs to create space against teams like Birmingham like he did tonight
Are we to believe that Torres is nullified by a deep-lying
team?
I think not.
AB's Red Army wrote:7_Kewell wrote:AB's Red Army wrote:Rafa said that when given the space, Torres can do what he did tonight. No such space was given when we played Birmingham, which he knew, and decided not to play him. This was seconded by the legend himself, Ian Rush.
I'm amused to how people believe they know Torre's strengths and weaknesses more than the man, who signed him and has been watching him for a large part of his career.
But there you go. This is a fickle business I guess.
i hear what you're saying AB, but Torres has the ability to scare theout of a defence...so much so they will send 3 (yes 3!) players to get the ball from him. Obviously RAfa knows his stuff, but Torres today showed that he's our most in form player and i think he'll be in the 1st 11 for a while now
Did you see the game against Porto? It was a perfect example of a decent team nullifying space and time on the ball for Torres to be effective [and the team wasin general].
Birmingham did the same, except they defended even deeper as the match progressed.
It's pointless to discuss anyway, it's all in the past nowIf he had started the Postmouth and Brum games we might have had 6 points instead of 2
And we might have had the same amount of points even if he played.
I might have been a millionaire had I won the lottery as well.
THat is all.
s@int wrote:AB's Red Army wrote:7_Kewell wrote:AB's Red Army wrote:Rafa said that when given the space, Torres can do what he did tonight. No such space was given when we played Birmingham, which he knew, and decided not to play him. This was seconded by the legend himself, Ian Rush.
I'm amused to how people believe they know Torre's strengths and weaknesses more than the man, who signed him and has been watching him for a large part of his career.
But there you go. This is a fickle business I guess.
i hear what you're saying AB, but Torres has the ability to scare theout of a defence...so much so they will send 3 (yes 3!) players to get the ball from him. Obviously RAfa knows his stuff, but Torres today showed that he's our most in form player and i think he'll be in the 1st 11 for a while now
Did you see the game against Porto? It was a perfect example of a decent team nullifying space and time on the ball for Torres to be effective [and the team wasin general].
Birmingham did the same, except they defended even deeper as the match progressed.
It's pointless to discuss anyway, it's all in the past nowIf he had started the Postmouth and Brum games we might have had 6 points instead of 2
And we might have had the same amount of points even if he played.
I might have been a millionaire had I won the lottery as well.
THat is all.
Against Porto we hardly had any possession, against Birmingham we had the ball we just didn't know what to do with it.
AB's Red Army wrote:Rafa said that when given the space, Torres can do what he did tonight. .
This is a fickle business I guess.
Rafa was covering his @rse A.B. he knew he made a mistake and he is not going to change his rotation policy to please us Pro-Torres.
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