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by **cavehill-reds** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:15 pm

I do not care what anybody says but the tinkerman has to stop.
I watched the game live and was completly p*ssed off with his tatics
you pay over 20 million for a player and leave him on the bench wise f**king up
sort it out

by **The_Rock** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:19 pm

cavehill-reds wrote:I do not care what anybody says but the tinkerman has to stop.
I watched the game live and was completly p*ssed off with his tatics
you pay over 20 million for a player and leave him on the bench wise f**king up
sort it out

Well...rafa is a man who stands by his principals.....

He ain't gonna stop rotating.... Looks like we have to live with it.

by **AB's Red Army** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:19 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
AB's Red Army wrote:Quaresma and Mancini would have made us a team capable of winning the league.

Babel and Benayoun I'm afraid are not good enough for such a feat.

Benayoun is proven Premiership class player.

Babel is young and naive.

Mancini and Quaresma - there is no way you can know that they would ever make it in the Premiership so thats a pretty brave statement.

Benayoun is a proven Premiership player, but not a Premiership player you can have in your strongest XI and expect to win the league.

Babel has the potential to be a good player, but imo he's not a winger.

Yes my statement regarding Mancini and Quaresma are a bit brave considering the obvious. But both posses that none of our other wingers have. The ability innovate,threaten and open up teams.

by **Lucky** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:19 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
Lucky wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:The players which played today are and were more than capable of collecting the three points.

The finishing let the team down today, that’s all, and on a different day the team could have probably won.

Exactly the same situation that in the last season. Right, the finishing has cost us, but since this has been a long suffering to us, and now with more capable players brought in for us this season, yet this problem still cost, doesn't that mean at least our manager haven't get his job done quite right enough to slove it? A manager's job is not only to pick up 11 men to start each game, but also to spot the problems his team got and solve it and improve their performance, right?

It’s hardly a problem is it? Liverpool is just going through a bit of a rough patch at the moment, it will happen to every team. Before last week Liverpool had been scoring for fun in most matches, a 4-0 win at Toulouse, a 6-0 win at Derby.

If last season’s wastefulness in front of goal becomes a consistent problem over the coming months, then I am sure Rafa will sit down and analyse his options. It would be far too premature of Rafa to do so at this current moment in time and what’s to say Liverpool won’t start scoring next week?

There isn’t a problem currently, the only problem is people on here and (I’d imagine elsewhere) displaying melodramatic behaviour.

Fair enough, mate.
:cool:

by **cavehill-reds** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:21 pm

Get Crouch out he is a waste of space
the big streak of p*ss

by **laerciojunior** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:21 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
AB's Red Army wrote:Quaresma and Mancini would have made us a team capable of winning the league.

Babel and Benayoun I'm afraid are not good enough for such a feat.

Benayoun is proven Premiership class player.

Babel is young and naive.

Mancini and Quaresma - there is no way you can know that they would ever make it in the Premiership so thats a pretty brave statement.

i live in Portugal and see all games of Quaresma, he is the best winger of the world!!!

Quaresma need adapt in premiership, i believe that he can do this in a year.

(Torres need adapt in premiership too.)

Quaresma > Babel, Yosi and Pennant together

by **Leonmc0708** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:22 pm

cavehill-reds wrote:Get Crouch out he is a waste of space
the big streak of p*ss

grow up.

by **cavehill-reds** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:24 pm

The_Rock wrote:
cavehill-reds wrote:I do not care what anybody says but the tinkerman has to stop.
I watched the game live and was completly p*ssed off with his tatics
you pay over 20 million for a player and leave him on the bench wise f**king up
sort it out

Well...rafa is a man who stands by his principals.....

He ain't gonna stop rotating.... Looks like we have to live with it.

No we don't have to live with it , we deserve better :veryangry

by **cavehill-reds** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:26 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
cavehill-reds wrote:Get Crouch out he is a waste of space
the big streak of p*ss

grow up.

O.K A bit strong but i am totally p*ssed off

by **Leonmc0708** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:27 pm

cavehill-reds wrote:
The_Rock wrote:
cavehill-reds wrote:I do not care what anybody says but the tinkerman has to stop.
I watched the game live and was completly p*ssed off with his tatics
you pay over 20 million for a player and leave him on the bench wise f**king up
sort it out

Well...rafa is a man who stands by his principals.....

He ain't gonna stop rotating.... Looks like we have to live with it.

No we don't have to live with it , we deserve better

Your right, we are the most succesful team in England, so we have a devine right to win every game.

:sleep

by **jeff capes** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:31 pm

i'm fed up with our lazy dope fans who are incapable of spotting
weakness in the team.

the bookies and rival fans could see liverpool are not capable of winning the league, but for the 17th year in a row our fans delude themselves.

we are not going to get lucky and stumble our way to winning the league.its been 17 years and we have not got lucky in that time.

liverpool does not have a pattern of play that the players can follow with their eyes closed.

if you look at us when we are on form its instinctive football rather than play from the training ground.

when you watch arsenal they have a way of playing,and no matter who comes in the play remains the same.

sometimes you watch liverpool and they don't have a clue or idea in their head and end up with the cheesy ball back to their own half.

there is also a laziness in the team and an unwillingness to help team mates out.

its a case of give it to the winger and let him do it all on his own ,rather than giving him options if he can't.

"hey give it to gerard he'll rampage up the field he don't need options". no wonder the team is tired and has to be rotated.

just let the bloody ball do the work like at arsenhole and man-who-nited.

if i watch kuyt run around like a headless chicken again ,i swear i'll lose the plot.

kuyt has talent and is fully committed to liverpool which is why he runs so much, but lets face it he is not going to become world class
from just running all over the place. we need to develop his pattern of play that always breaks down around the box.

we need a special coach to improve the players rather than rafas tactics.

tactics ain't going to improve young talents ,we will justy end up ruining them and moving them on like pongole.

to me i can't see much difference between babel and pongole,i would even say pongole offered more.

i'm getting the impression these guys came to liverpool to improve
but are shocked at the :censored:

coaching.

you hear the players talk about rafas tactics but you never hear anybody talking about him improving them as a player.

i'm glad gerard did not come to the rescue to cover up the cracks.

gerard should adding the final touches to a great team like ronaldinio did at barcelona but instead he's alway having to rescue us.

even though gerard scored more goals under borenitez i think his play was much better under houlier.

i don't think benitez treating gerard like his little kid has improved gerard.

i've tried to think fair about rafa and his achievements at liverpool
but his arrogance is winding me up.

if he left the only thing that would be affected is the champions league. i think a capello could come in and do better than him.

there is no point getting rid of rafa and bringing in shrimps like
houlier,evans and souness.

all liverpool has to do is bring in a top name and rafa could easily be replaced and i'm not talking about big sam.

what a coincidence that liverpool has players that get tired easily and has to be rotated unlike other clubs who seem to have physically strong players...funny that.

by **The_Rock** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:33 pm

laerciojunior wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
AB's Red Army wrote:Quaresma and Mancini would have made us a team capable of winning the league.

Babel and Benayoun I'm afraid are not good enough for such a feat.

Benayoun is proven Premiership class player.

Babel is young and naive.

Mancini and Quaresma - there is no way you can know that they would ever make it in the Premiership so thats a pretty brave statement.

i live in Portugal and see all games of Quaresma, he is the best winger of the world!!!

Quaresma need adapt in premiership, i believe that he can do this in a year.

(Torres need adapt in premiership too.)

Quaresma > Babel, Yosy and Pennant together

Agree about Quaresma......I like pennant and all, but Quaresma will be a deffo improvement over pennant.

But the problem today is not about RW.....its LW. We are too focused on attacking on our RW... it seems so predictable.

I have said it before, babel ain't a LW. Benayoun will do a better job at LW, then babel ever will. But that is just a stop-gap measure. We need a "real-quality" LW.... We already have one...but he spends more time in the treatment room nowdays.

A fit kewell on the left with a on-form pennant on the right would have stretched apart birmingham.

by **cavehill-reds** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:34 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
cavehill-reds wrote:
The_Rock wrote:
cavehill-reds wrote:I do not care what anybody says but the tinkerman has to stop.
I watched the game live and was completly p*ssed off with his tatics
you pay over 20 million for a player and leave him on the bench wise f**king up
sort it out

Well...rafa is a man who stands by his principals.....

He ain't gonna stop rotating.... Looks like we have to live with it.

No we don't have to live with it , we deserve better

Your right, we are the most succesful team in England, so we have a devine right to win every game.

No we don't have the divine right to win every game, but we need to beat teams like Birmingham.
Get with the programme and wake up :sleep

by **Leonmc0708** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:35 pm

jeff capes wrote:all liverpool has to do is bring in a top name and rafa could easily be replaced and i'm not talking about big sam.

If you were not the Worlds strongest mand I would give you a slap and tell you to grow up.

Please re-read this post in 2 months time and lets see how much you stand by.

by **maccabi haifa** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:37 pm

benayoun didnt play beacuse ''Yom Kippur''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur

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