Maddy mccann - Little girl missing

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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:23 pm

A few years ago when I was in the USA I left my kids aged 15, 13, and 10 in the car while we nipped in a supermarket for a few bits and pieces. We were gone no more than 5-10 mins. On returning to the car, there was a Cop waiting for us. He told us it was illegal to leave children in a car and that if we had been any longer we would have been arrested. 

We were also told that its illegal (or maybe just company policy?) to rent a separate room for children. They seem to have much stricter rules over there.
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Postby jeffiroquai » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:26 pm

That's true saint.  Here in the states they have cracked down on leaving kids unchaperoned for good reason.  Mom's leaving kids in the car when its 110 out so they can go :censored: their boyfriend, and even recently there was a Rugby player who left his two year old in the car parking lot while he was in a brothel with a prostitute.

I don't think the rules are stricter for any reason other than the amount of complete numpties in my country who are to self absorbed with themselves to be proper parents.

I compltely agree with Ciggs about how this would affect me personally.  I have to kids, a 4 year old girl and a two year old boy.  If something happened to either one of them that was malicious, I would go on a serious rampage.  Let alone if a kidnapping occured or something of that nature.  I smacked one of my buddies the other day just for making a joke about my daughter.  To be blogging about jogging on the coast or your other kids splashing around the pool is complete silliness.

This is on the OJ Simpson level of bad cover stories.
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Postby Grimly Fiendish » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:45 pm

jeffiroquai wrote:This is on the OJ Simpson level of bad cover stories.

Spot on with that one lad.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:19 pm

Ciggy wrote:
ivor_the_injun wrote:The bottom line is that all these timelines in all the reports are based mainly on conjecture, and don't necessarily reflect the facts as established by the police.

No Igor they where established by the McCanns we checked every half hour.
Must have had a blast in the Tapas quiz going to check on the kids.
Why even bother going out.
I confess I am no angel I like a drink but my child is in tow on holiday right or wrong he is with me.
Since the day he was born I have never left him alone in my house or in a hotel on holiday.

But thats just me maybe other people prefer not to be bothered by their children.

thing is ciggy, if they wanted a holiday where they alone could go out for meals and drinks, why didn't they book a nanny?  Why didn't they leave the kids at home with famliy in England?

It makes no sense.  I'm no parent, but if i wanted to have a holiday which involved me and a partner eating and drinking alone, i wouldn't take the kids...or if i did i'd book a nanny.  Especially if i was on 50k a year as a doctor
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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:31 pm

Ciggy wrote:What ever has happened to her we may never know and Im sorry to say I dont think she is still alive either.
She could be anywhere absolutly anywhere.

Such a shame what a lovely little thing aswell.

Well, I normally make my mind up pretty soon about stuff like this. Within the first week or so of hearing about the missing girl on the news, I just don't want to hear about it anymore as I just know she's gone and won't be found alive or found at all whatsoever. I didn't have sympathy for the parents either. If they did it, I won't be surprised, nor will I care. People are c*nts, and that's just a sad fact of life. Growing up where I live, this was all just too common hearing about missing people, only for them to be found in a ditch. It was never a surprise.
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Postby Woollyback » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:39 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Ciggy wrote:What ever has happened to her we may never know and Im sorry to say I dont think she is still alive either.
She could be anywhere absolutly anywhere.

Such a shame what a lovely little thing aswell.

Well, I normally make my mind up pretty soon about stuff like this. Within the first week or so of hearing about the missing girl on the news, I just don't want to hear about it anymore as I just know she's gone and won't be found alive or found at all whatsoever. I didn't have sympathy for the parents either. If they did it, I won't be surprised, nor will I care. People are c*nts, and that's just a sad fact of life. Growing up where I live, this was all just too common hearing about missing people, only for them to be found in a ditch. It was never a surprise.

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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:45 pm

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Emerald Red wrote:
Ciggy wrote:What ever has happened to her we may never know and Im sorry to say I dont think she is still alive either.
She could be anywhere absolutly anywhere.

Such a shame what a lovely little thing aswell.

Well, I normally make my mind up pretty soon about stuff like this. Within the first week or so of hearing about the missing girl on the news, I just don't want to hear about it anymore as I just know she's gone and won't be found alive or found at all whatsoever. I didn't have sympathy for the parents either. If they did it, I won't be surprised, nor will I care. People are c*nts, and that's just a sad fact of life. Growing up where I live, this was all just too common hearing about missing people, only for them to be found in a ditch. It was never a surprise.

such a philanthropist :D

What can I say. I'm not one to endulge in apathy. If someone wants that from me, they gotta earn it. How many c*nts do you think are out there doing terrible things to decent people and laughing about it? Too many to think about. So I don't.
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Postby Kharhaz » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:19 am

Just to bump this one. Looks like there is no case against the parents, hell even Richard Branson is sure of it. Is this what happens when a child goes missing abroad? They cant track her so parents get blamed, everyone agrees then case closed?
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Postby Emerald Red » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:38 am

Kharhaz wrote:Just to bump this one. Looks like there is no case against the parents, hell even Richard Branson is sure of it. Is this what happens when a child goes missing abroad? They cant track her so parents get blamed, everyone agrees then case closed?

Call in Mulder and Scully out of retirement for this one. A child has just mysteriously vanished off the face of the Earth with no clue or trace. Aliens done it.

Seriously, like. Since when does anyone - especially a child - go missing like this and turn up safe and well? If the child was kidnapped, then where is the ransom demands, and where are the reports of sightings? You can't keep a child locked up forerver.  Something seriously stinks about it, and if I had to cast a critical eye at anyone, it would be her so called parents.

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Postby LFC2007 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:44 am

Emerald Red wrote:You can't keep a child locked up forerver.

Although I think it's quite unlikely in this instance, there have been cases where children have been locked up for years on end by kidknappers.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:16 am

why do you think its unlikely in this case? do you know something specific or is it just a wild guess?
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Postby Emerald Red » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:23 am

Let's not turn this thread into a p*ssing contest, fella's.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:27 am

simple question, shame that you have to read it as though its argumentative mate, i am wondering what this thought is based on, is there a specific as to why he thinks its unlikely or just a gut feeling.
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Postby Emerald Red » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:31 am

The poker player in me says that it's just a got feeling. Most gut feelings turn out to be true, you know.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:41 am

Emerald Red wrote:The poker player in me says that it's just a got feeling. Most gut feelings turn out to be true, you know.

is that one of those made up statistics    :D

there is no such thing in reality as a gut feeling, its just an opinion that someone has based on experience or believed experience.

the fact is as i have said earlier in this thread none of us know what happened, just as none of us know for definite what evidence has been amassed by the police. the only true thing we know is that a little girl is missing, she may be dead, she may not be dead. she may be with another family being raised as their own child, she may have been taken and murdered, she may have been killed by her parents either accidentally or on purpose. she may be kept in a cellar somewhere and be kept that way for many years, because its rare doesn't mean it hasn't happened in this case.

however the fact is that her parents are involved in some way with her disappearance by leaving her and her two brothers unattended, maybe they have more involvement than this. so forgive me if i don't fawn all over them and pity them, i pity the poor child and her two poor brothers who have these people as parents.

in my opinion (and this is all any of us can have based on what little we know) the parents have more involvement than just leaving the children alone, just my opinion
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