Liverpool FC Forum

by J*o*n*D*o*e » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:05 am

Today the great city of Liverpool celebrates its 800th Birthday.

check out the link below for some of the events taking place and times.

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                      Happy Birthday Liverpool, still going strong.

by Bad Bob » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:09 am

Happy birthday, mate...all the best!

(Sorry, things have gotten a bit knee-jerk on the birthday wishes front )

by Bad Bob » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:12 am

In all seriousness, it blows me away that the venerable city of Liverpool's that old.  T'other week I went to the oldest European settlement in Canada and was impressed that it was 400 years old!   This is definitely a milestone to celebrate!

BTW, what a fantastic Liverbird symbol they crafted for the occasion!  It just needs a red paint job!

by Sabre » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:24 am

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Drummerphil, never forgotten.

by 112-1077774096 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:31 am

i think woof woof was there on day one     

by Sabre » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:40 am

Am I correct if I think that supersub founded the city?

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by 112-1077774096 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:50 am

there were two waring factions led by two tribal chiefs, woof woof and supersub.

king john came to the area and mediated and supersub and woof woof decided to lay down their weapons and join together to fight the near neighbours of scumcunia, and so liverpool was formed primarily to do battle with the scum, they even built the east lancs road to assist the ease of battle

by The Ace1983 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:57 am

by Roger Red Hat » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:13 am

how do they know what day it was born?

by LFC2007 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:08 pm

by The Manhattan Project » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:53 pm

History Lesson

The history of Liverpool can be traced back to 1190 when the place was known as 'Liuerpul', possibly meaning a pool or creek with muddy water.

The origins of the city are usually dated from August 1207 when letters patent were issued by King John advertising the establishment of a new borough at Liverpool, and inviting settlers to come and take up holdings there.

St Nicholas Church was built by 1257, and, with the formation of a market on the site of the later Town Hall, Liverpool became established as a small fishing and farming community

The earliest known use of a bird to represent the then town of Liverpool is on its corporate seal, dating from the 1350s, which is now in the British Museum. The bird shown is generic, but the wording of the seal contains references to King John, who granted the town’s charter in 1207. John, in honour of his patron saint, frequently used the device of an eagle - long associated with St. John. Further indication that the seal was an homage to King John is found in the sprig of broom initially shown in the bird’s beak, broom being a symbol of the royal family of Plantagenet.

By the 17th century, the origins of the bird had begun to be forgotten, with references to the bird as a cormorant, still a common bird in the coastal waters near Liverpool. The Earl of Derby in 1668 gifted the town council a mace "engraved with ...a leaver" - the first known reference to a liver bird by this name. A manual on heraldry from later in the century confuses matters further by assuming this term is related to the Dutch word lefler, meaning spoonbill - a bird rarely found in northern England.

When the College of Arms granted official arms to Liverpool in 1797, they refer to the bird as a cormorant, adding that the sprig in the mouth is of laver, a type of seaweed, thus implying that the bird's appellation comes from the sprig.

The bird thus appears to have originally been intended to be an eagle, but is now officially a cormorant. Many modern interpretations of the symbol are of a cormorant, although several - notably that on the emblem of Liverpool Football Club distinctly show the short head and curved beak more readily associated with a bird of prey.