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by **MightyLFC** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:58 pm

ivor_the_injun wrote:At least it wasn't given at 1-1 with 2 minutes to go.

It's always difficult to take, but these things do tend to even themselves out. If the free-kick vs Villa hadn't been given, and Styles had got it right yesteday, we'd still be on the same number of points. Yesterday we were robbed of the chance of putting a marker down, and that's what smarts today.

Its not the :censored:

point tho is it !

by **RedBlood** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:00 pm

the thing is it hasnt evened its self out
people seem to forget that villa were given a penalty for ball to hand when villa had no chance of scoring

by **lakes10** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:01 pm

there is something good about them coming out and saying he was wrong. If we now miss out on the CL this year by 1 or two point we can clam back the money we would miss out on from the premiership funds.

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:26 pm

RedBlood wrote:the thing is it hasnt evened its self out
people seem to forget that villa were given a penalty for ball to hand when villa had no chance of scoring

Got to disagree, It was definately a peno against Carra at Villa. His hand moved towards the ball and Jamie himself didnt complain..

It hurts when it happens to you, ie yesterday.. but I think we need to look at the positives rather than dwell on something we cannot change.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:28 pm

So what if he admit he's wrong .... we still lose by 2 points . That 2 point can may be cost us to be champion this season. Im still angry and if i got a gun ... i will shoot at both of his eyes

He should be banned for 1 year and after 1 year he should not involve any of Liverpool match for life

by **66-1112520797** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:29 pm

by **RedBlood** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:43 pm

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by **66-1112520797** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:51 pm

by **Wilhelmsson** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:52 pm

I do not buy into this ‘swings and roundabouts’ notion, it introduces a supernatural element within football, which the game could do without.

The Aston Villa match is irrelevant here, as the standard of refereeing in the Villa match last week was significantly higher than the match against Chelsea. Rob Styles was in front of the incident as it happened and for some reason gave the penalty after a nice acrobatic display from Malouda. The Petrov incident could be deemed as obstruction and no doubt was.

The forgotten point in all of this is that regardless of which team has the rub of the green, Liverpool’s problem still lies up front, the team creates plenty, but converts little and until this changes, the team will find themselves in a similar situation where a similar incident costs the club points on the board.

If Kuyt, Babel and Alonso converted the chances they were presented with, it would have been 4-1 and the penalty wouldn’t have made any difference other than to the goal difference.

Rob Styles has been suspended for week and named and shamed, lets leave it at that and concentrate on battering Sunderland to get the much needed points and confidence boost.

by **66-1112520797** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:00 pm

The forgotten point in all of this is that regardless of which team has the rub of the green, Liverpool’s problem still lies up front, the team creates plenty, but converts little and until this changes, the team will find themselves in a similar situation where a similar incident costs the club points on the board.

In general I agree that our lack of ruthlessness infront of goal could be improved.

But in games like this where chances are few and far between, and when games are tight as they usually are against Chelsea, errors like that are inexcusable.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:06 pm

He certainly shouldn't officiate any more of our games, that is a fact.

Thick c*nt. :no

by **Wilhelmsson** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:11 pm

Bamaga man wrote:In general I agree that our lack of ruthlessness infront of goal could be improved.

But in games like this where chances are few and far between, and when games are tight as they usually are against Chelsea, errors like that are inexcusable.

Yes, simple errors made by Rob Styles (in this particular incident) should be avoided and are of course inexcusable. However Liverpool must be aware that these errors exist in football and can come and bite them on the buttocks. Expect the unexpected as they say and it’s naïve to presume that in a game with high stakes that unprofessional behaviour will not occur on the field.

Games of the magnitude of the one yesterday, is a breeding ground for simulation and rather crude conduct, which is why it’s important for the team to put the result beyond all doubt. Holding onto a 1-0 result against any team carries its own consequences and more so against a team of Chelsea’s calibre who can change a game in their favour.

The incident with Malouda is what I have come to expect from Chelsea and hopefully next time the two clubs meet, the players remember this and look to put the result beyond all doubt.

by **Anon_Villan** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:14 pm

Good to see some reasoned posts on here, I think its pretty obvious which ones I agree with. And RedBlood, handball is a foul regardless - you can't catch the ball to control it just cause theres nobody stood behind you.

Keith Hackett earlier was talking about "big decisions" being made correctly, and cause Style didn't he's sitting off for a week. I take it that "big decision" only really means "big decisions in games between the top4" then.

The worst thing about this is that it puts even more pressure on referees in games involving Liverpool from now on. You'll will benefit from other refs who will be scared to get this sort of abuse and criticism and who will be afraid to award anything against them.

Sorry but both sets of players were all over him yesterday, Chelsea players even grabbed him, but the behaviour of top sides is ignored again and the ref gets the blame - which he only part deserves.

by **112-1077774096** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:20 pm

Anon_Villan wrote:which he only part deserves.

no mate,he fully deserves the criticism. we already knew before the game that he was a poor ref with a history of poor decisions. he is not good enough to officiate at this level (or any pro level) when he allows the actions of players to dictate his decisions.

chelsea use this tactic continuously, they harass the ref at every chance they get in the hope that at some point he will cave in and make a bad decision, he did this yesterday then he lost control, well to be fair he never had control and it descended into a farce

i know that there is a problem at the moment with players trying to con officials so really we can say they cant complain when the ref gets it wrong, if they didnt cheat so much the ref could get on with his job, but yesterday i think was a different case, he blew it big style

by **66-1112520797** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:23 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:In general I agree that our lack of ruthlessness infront of goal could be improved.

But in games like this where chances are few and far between, and when games are tight as they usually are against Chelsea, errors like that are inexcusable.

Yes, simple errors made by Rob Styles (in this particular incident) should be avoided and are of course inexcusable. However Liverpool must be aware that these errors exist in football and can come and bite them on the buttocks. Expect the unexpected as they say and it’s naïve to presume that in a game with high stakes that unprofessional behaviour will not occur on the field.

Games of the magnitude of the one yesterday, is a breeding ground for simulation and rather crude conduct, which is why it’s important for the team to put the result beyond all doubt. Holding onto a 1-0 result against any team carries its own consequences and more so against a team of Chelsea’s calibre who can change a game in their favour.

The incident with Malouda is what I have come to expect from Chelsea and hopefully next time the two clubs meet, the players remember this and look to put the result beyond all doubt.

Holding onto a 1-0 result against any team carries its own consequences and more so against a team of Chelsea’s calibre who can change a game in their favour.

The thing is though we werent holding on for 1-0 far from it, Rob styles threw them a life line and thats it really. The way the game was going I couldnt honestly see them scoring but we'll never know. If anything Ithought we were more likely to get a second. Up until that point we were in control and that all changed by a stupid error from 'Showpiece Rob'. You cannot blame the players for not being out of sight up until that point, usually you can if say Chelsea scored a goal in the 90th minute or so but this was a diiferent case yesterday.

And pointing the finger at the players for not being out of sight is unnessacery critisim in my book.

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