Bad Bob wrote:The Specialist wrote:Bad Bob wrote:JoeTerp wrote:USA grinded out a really ugly win, but advance to the 1/4 finals to play Austria, thank got Besian isnt play he would light us up.
The Americans showed great determination to win that match, mate. Ugly it may have been but they came from behind and got the result when the chips were down. Fair play to them. As for Uruguay, I haven't seen a team dive and carry on as shamelessly as they did in a long time. They were a disgrace and got exactly what they deserved. They were poor losers too, with a few of their lads going after a couple of American players at the full time whistle.
What was a disgrace was the referee..
Fair play that the US came from behind and played better towards the end of the game than Uruguay, but the refereeing during the game was terrible. You can't blame the Uruguayans for being upset with what occured. How any US players didn't get sent off, and how the handball/foul against the keeper that occured during the plays that lead to goals was overlooked is upsetting. Any team would getoff if they had un-fair treatment throughout a game. It's easy to critize people when you don't take notice or acknowledge what occured in the build-up to everything...
There's nothing I dislike more than when people call one party out for one thing, and ignore the other party's actions. Anyone who wasn't biased and watched the match would laugh out loud at you talking about the Uruguayans diving, when Szetela flung himself to the ground and grabbed his face like he had been hit with a hammer after a Uruguayan brushed him. Now that's shameful. He's a class player otherwise.![]()
Anyway, it's a shame what happened after the game and I don't encourage violence. But I understand why their players would be upset after that game.
Not sure I know what handball/foul you're talking about, mate? Which US goal did that occur in the build-up to?
As for the Szetela play-acting, you're right, it was equally disgraceful. On the other hand, you could argue that he was just giving Uruguay their just desserts after they flopped about the whole game. In my view Uruguay were the much bigger disgrace throughout the game than were the Americans but, as Carra says, it's a game of opinions.
In general, though, there has been some poor refereeing in this competition. Spain did tremendously well to come from 2-0 down to Brazil to ultimately win 4-2 but would they have gotten back into the match if their first goal had been disallowed for a blatant handball? It's doubtful. How the linesman missed that I'll never know as he had a perfect view of it. But, the goal counted and, coming as it did only a couple of minutes after Brazil's second and right before half-time, it was a real turning point in the match momentum.
I agree in general that the refereeing during this tourament has been poor, yeah. I didn't see the Spain match, but I heard about what happened. I can't comment really on that game, but without watching it...anyone can admit that their comeback would have been less likely if the goal had been disallowed.
The fouls were the type of fouls that sometimes get called and sometimes don't. There was a handball during the play when the US tied the game. It's how the player who puts the cross in that leads to the OG, finds himself with the ball to mak the cross. The other goalkeeper incident isn't much of an incident, to be honest. I probably wouldn't even mention it normally. It's the type of stuff that might called in Spain and we brush off in the Premiership. It's just that when two goals go in with a (however small) bit of controversy you get ticked off.
Sorry if I come across as being bitter, btw I'm not making excuses for the loss. They lost. It's over. It's just that I don't like a team being talked about in one way, when I feel the other team was probably worse. I'm not saying one team was full of angels or didn't get a lucky call or two themselves, but yeah. I just think it's ridiculous to ignore the US team's and refs actions and just focus on the "disgraceful" Uruguayans.
Anyway, it was an ugly win. A win is a win. Let's leave it at that.