Lando_Griffin wrote:Mayday wrote:f9Torres wrote:Mayday wrote:f9Torres wrote:Mayday wrote:f9Torres wrote:In his worse season he scores 13. The average in 15. If you want/can, tell me some strikers who have scored at least 13 goals by year since 18 to 23.
2000-01 (2 division) 4 - 1 Goal
2001-02 (2 division) 36 - 6 Goals
2002-03 (1 division) 29 - 13 Goals
2003-04 (1 division) 35 - 19 Goals
2004-05 (1 division) 38 - 16 Goals
2005-06 (1 division) 36 - 13 Goals
2006-07 (1 division) 36 - 14 Goals
Included penalty kicks.
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I repeat, since 18, in primera division, an average of 15 goals, and every year at least 13 goals. Tell me another strikers with this number in his 5 first season in primera woth this age (18-23).
Always the same. This is the typical question of Atlético Suporters. I’m talking about good players or the best players for the Liverpool. This question is a sort of excuse to apologize the actuation of Fernando.
When a team wants grow up and obtains great result, great players must appear and Atlético is out of Europe for 10 years. We talk about Torres... have been appeared? Not yet. Torres was, is and will be a ethernal promise all the life. Every year the same.
Atlético change a lot of players every year. Bad times. Always the players are guilty of the situation except Torres. Why? Because Torres was the flag of the team and have Atlético in his heart, but his level is similar.
By the way, Rafa is a magician that can show the best of the players. Rafa and Liverpool will demand Torres this talent, and now, haven’t time for excuses.
I wish Torres triumph in Liverpool. Let’s see the evolution
¿30M€? (and losing Luís García)I think this operation have been a mistake.
I repeat, if you want/can tell us the strikers in the world with this number. 13 goals at least, an average of 15. It is simple. Look at the numbers of the best players in the world between the 18 and 23 and compare it. It easy. Come on.
What a nonsense! The question is made for answer 'Torres'(But in the terms that interesting your point). Another excuse about the statistic.
We talk about if Torres is a good player or if he is a star. I don't mind if he was a young player and if done 13 goals at least. Neither done 20!
Do you want an example of a young player? Raúl González (17 years old when he arrived to Liga). This player is a star (5 Ligas, 3 Supercopas,3 Champions league, 1 Supercopa de Europa y 2 Intercontinentales) .
1994/95 28 - 9 Goals
1995/96 40 - 19 Goals
1996/97 42 - 21 Goals
1997/98 35 - 10 Goals
1998/99 37 - 25 Goals
1999/00 34 - 17 Goals
2000/01 36 - 24 Goals
( 18(17)-23 years old statistic as you want)
There are a lot of players better than Torres without this especifics terms. What player is the best? A player that can do 25 goals winning all, or a player that do at least 13 winning nothing?
My point is clear and the different too.This conversation is finished for me.
What a load of old cr*p.
You want to play the stats game, eh? OK then, pal:
Raul Real games/goals: 449/194, or 1 goal every 2.3 games.
He's still in Madrid.
Michael Owen (Who I dislike) career games/goals: 264/138, or 1 goal every 1.9 games.
He was booted out for "not being good enough".
Stats can tell you anything you want to hear.
What a load of old sh*te.
Wise words Lando