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by **weringo** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:50 pm

Benayoun is sh*t, I could name 5 other players from West Ham alone I would rather sign.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:57 pm

weringo wrote:Benayoun is sh*t, I could name 5 other players from West Ham alone I would rather sign.

such as?

harewood? :rasp

by **ori b** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:13 pm

egyptian liverpoolian wrote:if that israelian play in anfield i will stop support liverpool
i ca't support one of child killer i am sorry

racist.

As an Israeli liverpool fan, I wish that benayoun will sgin liverpool.

Benayoun at his brilliant best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdKFrAFXq-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovKdLRZ3tc

by **redtrader74** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:19 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
red4life2007 wrote:we cannot sign average players like this an expect to go for the prem! does rafa know we are the biggest team in the world? we should go for kaka, ronaldhino, nani

not gonna happen with rick parry on board.

So you think that without Parry we would have signed them?

by **metalhead** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:20 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:why dont we play anderson? whats the point of a grooming the reserves then? id like to see miki roque get more chances this year. he looks promising.

because anderson isn't good enough for the first team thats why.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:27 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:
red4life2007 wrote:we cannot sign average players like this an expect to go for the prem! does rafa know we are the biggest team in the world? we should go for kaka, ronaldhino, nani

not gonna happen with rick parry on board.

So you think that without Parry we would have signed them?

we need someone more aggresive in the peter kenyon typa mould.
parry is good no question though.

by **destro** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:29 pm

Heres a bit more on the story

http://www.sportinglife.com/footbal....=soccer

There has been speculation that Liverpool offered as little as £1million for the Israeli captain, with other suggestions that a £3million bid has been lodged.

West Ham are believed to have rejected the bid and plan talks this week to convince Benayoun to stay in east London, where his new contract will be worth £50,000 a week.

Liverpool boss Benitez has followed the progress of Benayoun for a number of years, initially while the player was with Racing Santander in Spain.

Last summer, after Benayoun produced an outstanding performance for the Hammers in the FA Cup final against Liverpool in Cardiff, Benitez considered a bid.

Benitez was initially dismissive of the player's ability to handle the physical pressures in the Barclays Premier League when he first moved to Upton Park, but has now revised his opinion.

However, the fact that Liverpool are considering players of such a value underlines the problems Benitez is having in the transfer market.

There is a clear conflict with the club's new American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett over finance. Although the Americans have promised to back their manager in the market, both men have recently talked of restrain.

Hicks said "Rafa wants things done yesterday" while Gillett pointedly said this week that Liverpool would not "spend money like drunken sailors."

All this has not been received well by Benitez. His transfer targets have included Valencia's David Villa, Lyon winger Florent Malouda, Real Zaragoza brothers Diego and Gabriel Milito, Atletico Madrid striker Fernando Torres, Villarreal's Diego Forlan and even Charlton's Darren Bent.

But all their fees have been prohibitive for Benitez on his current budget, so the likes of 27-year-old Benayoun now come into the frame.

Liverpool are believed to again be showing interest in Benfica's Simao Sabrosa, but that fee could be over £12million.

A move for Benayoun could well be engineered if West Ham maintain their interest in Craig Bellamy. Liverpool clearly need to sell before they can buy at present, and a swap deal plus cash could be negotiated.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:30 pm

metalhead wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:why dont we play anderson? whats the point of a grooming the reserves then? id like to see miki roque get more chances this year. he looks promising.

because anderson isn't good enough for the first team thats why.

maybe. would you rather use benayoun or one of our reserves? tbh...maybe benayoun is a better option...but maybe anderson or hammil might actually suprise us. waddya think?

by **joko** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:30 pm

hope he's not one who was meant to be 'big signings'.
should this be somewhat related to gonzo's departure, i think he's just alright.

by **metalhead** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:32 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
metalhead wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:why dont we play anderson? whats the point of a grooming the reserves then? id like to see miki roque get more chances this year. he looks promising.

because anderson isn't good enough for the first team thats why.

maybe. would you rather use benayoun or one of our reserves? tbh...maybe benayoun is a better option...but maybe anderson or hammil might actually suprise us. waddya think?

I don't think hamill is good enough to be in the first team to be honest, he has powerful shots, but he is no gerrard and will never be a gerrard calibre (hopefully he can prove me wrong).

Benayoun is a better option ofcourse, but we need excellent squad players.. benayoun isnt.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:36 pm

does this mean we arent going for simao anymore?

by **redtrader74** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:37 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:
red4life2007 wrote:we cannot sign average players like this an expect to go for the prem! does rafa know we are the biggest team in the world? we should go for kaka, ronaldhino, nani

not gonna happen with rick parry on board.

So you think that without Parry we would have signed them?

we need someone more aggresive in the peter kenyon typa mould.
parry is good no question though.

Cannot understand you, first you intimate Parry is poor and incompetent, ant then in your reply you say he is good. Eh..?

by **Sabre** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:41 pm

There has been speculation that Liverpool offered as little as £1million for the Israeli captain, with other suggestions that a £3million bid has been lodged.

I don't know you, but I can perfectly imagine Pako and Rafa having a discussion like this in Spanish.

Pako: Benayoun? How much do we pay Rafa?
Rafa: 1 million pounds Pako, otherwise we bring a cheaper Spaniard
Pako: 1 million then. Offer him.

They'd be fúcking serious about that and they wouldn't realise it's an insult

However, the fact that Liverpool are considering players of such a value underlines the problems Benitez is having in the transfer market.

There is a clear conflict with the club's new American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett over finance. Although the Americans have promised to back their manager in the market, both men have recently talked of restrain.

Hicks said "Rafa wants things done yesterday" while Gillett pointedly said this week that Liverpool would not "spend money like drunken sailors."

All this has not been received well by Benitez. His transfer targets have included Valencia's David Villa, Lyon winger Florent Malouda, Real Zaragoza brothers Diego and Gabriel Milito, Atletico Madrid striker Fernando Torres, Villarreal's Diego Forlan and even Charlton's Darren Bent.

I don't agree what the journalist says, I think it's just speculation. You could speculate a lot of ways and that's just one way of doing so, and not surprisingly, always talking about "problems" in the Liverpool camp. Either bad relationship with the board, or players demanding a spot in a final, or key players leaving, or Liverpool not having real money, or approaching Benayoun as a confirmation of this.

FWIW Approaching Benayoun doesn't mean that. Rafa has bought in the past average players that would cover injuries and gaps in the team. Arbeloa is the latest example.

Let's remember that at some point this season Carraguer HAD to play in the midfield and Gerrard played in the left as well. Should we have deeper squad, some of them being just decent players like Benayoun would have been useful this season. Barcelona also has players like this, Giuly for instance.

So what I don't like of this articles it's not the fact they speculate as speculating may be entertaining. But the fact that they always find "trouble" and "problems" in the Liverpool camp, and they sometimes make interpretations out of 4 words, or the approaching of a player, while they overlook other important quotes that do not suggest there's troubles.

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:53 pm

metalhead wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:
metalhead wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:why dont we play anderson? whats the point of a grooming the reserves then? id like to see miki roque get more chances this year. he looks promising.

because anderson isn't good enough for the first team thats why.

maybe. would you rather use benayoun or one of our reserves? tbh...maybe benayoun is a better option...but maybe anderson or hammil might actually suprise us. waddya think?

I don't think hamill is good enough to be in the first team to be honest, he has powerful shots, but he is no gerrard and will never be a gerrard calibre (hopefully he can prove me wrong).

Benayoun is a better option ofcourse, but we need excellent squad players.. benayoun isnt.

It's only a matter of time for hamill , not yet but soon , he is a class act and will be a star for lfc in the future. :buttrock

by **Geo** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:55 pm

firstly benayoun is a decent footballer when playing at his best and would be more than a better replacement for some of the dead wood leaving this summer (gonzo and zenden).

from what ive read and what has widely been reported liverpools bid is designed to unsettle benayoun just before he was about to resign with west ham. the most ive heard liverpool offering is 3mil with many reports only suggesting 1mil.

i think most on these boards are blowing this move out of the water. if he comes im confident benayoun is not going to be our star signing this summer. just because we have not been active on the transfer market yet does not mean we are doomed. im not saying parry isnt a muppet but i think rafa has been thinking about his targets for a long time & will have the money to go get them.

imo benayoun is just a squad player and a useful a tricky player at that, who could be useful in the final third of games and cup matches.

last season showed us, with garcia out for a long time, that we are missing a spark up in the final third of the pitch, someone who could come on and transform a game. benayoun imo is more than capable to play this role and his a decent player imo. Although not world class, not good enough to be a starter and not ambitious enough if he were to be a main singing this summer, he would be useful as a squad or utility player.

p.s. cut out this rubbish that benayoun should not be at liverpool because he is israeli. this is liverpool fc with the greatest fans in the world, we do not discriminate. :censored:

what religion/color if he can play football thats all im concerned with.

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