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by **destro** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:25 pm

You need to be more elaborate then when you post, instead of coming out with 'How can you not understand that' ? What am i a mind reader.

We are hotly tipped to sign La Ligue players

Making a REASONABLE assumption that we are likely to sign players from La Liga given Rafa's past record of doing so

And now its gone to, I reasonably assume that either a) Spanish clubs may not want distracted and b) there may be deals done, but not ANNOUNCED until AFTER it has ended to avoid DISTRACTION.

You assumed all that :laugh:

and then ask why i dont understand it ?

This, once again is my assumption, understand this

You 'reasonably assume' he is waiting for the spanish league to end to sign spanish players or players who play in spain why ? because he has before, i could easily 'reasonably assume' he is going to buy second rate players because he has before ?

by **redtrader74** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:28 pm

destro wrote:You need to be more elaborate then when you post, instead of coming out with 'How can you not understand that' ? What am i a mind reader.

We are hotly tipped to sign La Ligue players

Making a REASONABLE assumption that we are likely to sign players from La Liga given Rafa's past record of doing so

And now its gone to, I reasonably assume that either a) Spanish clubs may not want distracted and b) there may be deals done, but not ANNOUNCED until AFTER it has ended to avoid DISTRACTION.

You assumed all that and then ask why i dont understand it ?

This, once again is my assumption, understand this

You 'reasonably assume' he is waiting for the spanish league to end to sign spanish players or players who play in spain why ? because he has before, i could easily 'reasonably assume' he is going to buy second rate players because he has before ?

Thats not a reasonable assumption, because along with some mediocre signings, we have Reina, Alonso, Sissoko and Garcia also from the Spanish league. Therefore unreasoned.
Sorry for butting in :laugh:

by **destro** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:33 pm

Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

by **redtrader74** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:56 pm

destro wrote:Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

You're right they are unreasonable assumptions.... :;):

by **dosserboy** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:02 pm

destro wrote:Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

Money! ....you need big bucks to buy big players!!!

by **destro** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:06 pm

dosserboy wrote:
destro wrote:Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

Money! ....you need big bucks to buy big players!!!

Money does not come into it, we STILL do not know how much Rafa has to spend so the difference has nothing to do with money

The point was and still is I have good reason to believe he has bought players from La Ligue, I also have good reason to believe he has bought second rate players ( either from La Ligue or some where else ) regardless of the circumstances

by **LFC2007** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:15 pm

destro wrote:You need to be more elaborate then when you post, instead of coming out with 'How can you not understand that' ? What am i a mind reader.

We are hotly tipped to sign La Ligue players

Making a REASONABLE assumption that we are likely to sign players from La Liga given Rafa's past record of doing so

And now its gone to, I reasonably assume that either a) Spanish clubs may not want distracted and b) there may be deals done, but not ANNOUNCED until AFTER it has ended to avoid DISTRACTION.

You assumed all that and then ask why i dont understand it ?

This, once again is my assumption, understand this

You 'reasonably assume' he is waiting for the spanish league to end to sign spanish players or players who play in spain why ? because he has before, i could easily 'reasonably assume' he is going to buy second rate players because he has before ?

I have elaborated, you just have a severe problem in understanding it.

Assuming he is going to set out to buy second rate players is not a resonable assumption, in most caes we were FORCED to settle for our 2nd or third option due to a LACK OF FUNDS.

Do you think he would have bought Pennant if we had £20m to spend solely on a right winger?

Every manager makes poor signings but invariably his signings from La Liga have been good.

You reasonably assume we will sign Bent or Forlan based on PURE SPECULATION, there is no EVIDENCE whatsoever that we are seeking to sign them.

by **LFC2007** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:18 pm

destro wrote:Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

You are missing something it is completely UNREASONABLE.

You take it out of context.

Let me do the same...

I could assume that Chelsea will sign another player from Reading.

why? Because they signed Sidwell from Reading.

But is there any EVIDENCE to suggest they will sign another player from Reading?

NO.

That is an example of your reasoning and it doesn't stand up.

by **LFC2007** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:20 pm

destro wrote:
dosserboy wrote:
destro wrote:Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

Money! ....you need big bucks to buy big players!!!

Money does not come into it, we STILL do not know how much Rafa has to spend so the difference has nothing to do with money

The point was and still is I have good reason to believe he has bought players from La Ligue, I also have good reason to believe he has bought second rate players ( either from La Ligue or some where else ) regardless of the circumstances

Of course money comes into it.

If we had the FUNDS we, in all likelihood would not have bought our second and third choice players.

You again take it entirely out of any REASONABLE context.

by **destro** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:34 pm

LFC2007 let it go ! You can elaborate all you want to, and question my ability to understand something you said which, changed every time it was questioned.

We dont know how much money he had last season, we can assume he didnt have 20 million for a right winger or we could say he spent over 20 million on Pennant, Kuyt,Nabil El Zhar,
Astrit Ajdarevic, Durán,Arbeloa and Leiva, but we STILL do not know how much he had to spend. Hardly lack of funds though is it ?

Just like we STILL do not know how much he has to spend now !

And for the last time i did not assume we are going to sign them, i said

'Thats why i dont really think that he went to them and said i think we need Bent or Forlan, and there has been no official statement to back that up thank f.uck'

and

'It just seems IMO that we have gone from being promised the money to buy the best to having a little of it to buy second rate players ( if reports are to be believed ). Im still going to wait and see what happens and who comes in but at the moment this is the way i feel.'

I am FRUSTRATED not PESSIMISTIC or being NEGATIVE at the lack of signings so far, whats wrong with that ?

by **dosserboy** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:39 pm

destro wrote:
dosserboy wrote:
destro wrote:Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

Money! ....you need big bucks to buy big players!!!

Money does not come into it, we STILL do not know how much Rafa has to spend so the difference has nothing to do with money

The point was and still is I have good reason to believe he has bought players from La Ligue, I also have good reason to believe he has bought second rate players ( either from La Ligue or some where else ) regardless of the circumstances

Regardless of circumstances? How do you buy David Villa for 7million?

by **The Grudge** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:39 pm

If Darren Bent signs for LFC i will eat my left testicle!

FFS this man is in no way good enough for LFC or any club that aspires to be the best.Why is he even thought of?
He's a decent player but no way near the calibre we need.We all know this and so does Raffa so shut up moaning about things that people say and all that!

The only concrete signings we have are our own men again...for now!Chill out folks..we have time!

Anyone noticed the way them yanks say Raffa?.....They say rougha...or ruffa or maybe even roafa....ITS FU.CKING RAFFA...Not Roooofa!!Or Rarfa!

by **LFC2007** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:41 pm

destro wrote:We dont know how much money he had last season, we can assume he didnt have 20 million for a right winger or we could say he spent over 20 million on Pennant, Kuyt,Nabil El Zhar,
Astrit Ajdarevic, Durán,Arbeloa and Leiva, but we STILL do not know how much he had to spend. Hardly lack of funds though is it ?

We do know how much he had last season, enough to buy players across the squad as a whole and NOT £20m on a right winger or £20m on a left mid.

We do know how much he had to spend last summer, if you buy a calculator and tot up each signing then you will know.

Of course it's a lack of funds, we've had to spend over a number of different areas in the squad to plug gaps. Manure and chelsea have been able to add a few players worth £20m each season, we have not.

To say it's not a lack of funds is complete rubbish.

by **LFC2007** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:42 pm

dosserboy wrote:
destro wrote:
dosserboy wrote:
destro wrote:Taking aside the great players he has signed from there, im not questioning their ability.

I assume he will buy from spain because he has before , right ?

I assume he will buy second rate players because he has before ?

apart from the 'reasonable'
Am i missing something between the two assumptions

Money! ....you need big bucks to buy big players!!!

Money does not come into it, we STILL do not know how much Rafa has to spend so the difference has nothing to do with money

The point was and still is I have good reason to believe he has bought players from La Ligue, I also have good reason to believe he has bought second rate players ( either from La Ligue or some where else ) regardless of the circumstances

Regardless of circumstances? How do you buy David Villa for 7million?

According to Destro we should have blown our whole budget on a star player last season and neglected the rest of the squad.

by **LFC2007** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:48 pm

The Grudge wrote:If Darren Bent signs for LFC i will eat my left testicle!

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