Liverpool FC Forum

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:31 am

Now that the football season is over im noticing more the rubbish that were watching. Green Green grass, that joseph rubbish, that lottery rubbish, then the joseph rubbish again, dont mind casualty, but then after the weekend we get film repeats of what is shown on ITV 2,3,4,5,6, or whatever many channels they have ! Im sick of it, well and truly. Can we please get what were paying for? surely that isnt too much to ask, back in my day we had different programmes all of the time, comedy, drama, real life documentarys, more comedy, bit of audience entertainment, then more comedy, bit of drama, but now its just plain and simple S.*i*e !
How many people here have sky and flick through every single channel and find there is simply nothing worth watching? we pay a license to view these channels and yet there is nothing?

On the kids channel now and again the kids decide what they want to watch, why cant we?

by **The Manhattan Project** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:41 am

I think the BBC should be maintained by licence fee under one condition, that it cuts its "entertainment" division, which would eliminate the need to pay :censored:

like Jonathan Woss and Graham Norton such high salaries for doing.....well.....pretty much fook all.

The BBC should focus on only a few areas: 1- Education (documentaries and so forth like "The Blue Planet") 2- Sport (a few reserved events like Wimbledon, the Olympics, the Grand National, EURO's, World Cup, FA Cup Final etc...) 3- News and Current Events. This would be the content of their TV and radio output.

They would be allowed to venture into Entertainment, but this must only occur on a BBC channel that has commercials and would be entirely funded by commercial sponsorship. No public money would fund this part of the corporation.

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:48 am

Then shouldnt that be the way to move ? abandon the whole tv licence fee altogether? that way the bbc can live of income from the ads there making, I just think the whole thing is unfair, i read my local paper and saw an absurd amount of people penalised for not paying there licence fee then i laughed, not at them but me because im one of the mugs paying for the rubbish were seeing now !

by **LFC2007** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:03 am

Agreed about some of the entertainment cra.p that comes out, they've overdone the pop idol/fame academy type show way too much.

The BBC do make some great documentaries, or at least they broadcast some great documentaries, I think ITV are set to obtain broadcasting rights for England games either next year or the year after, so we'll hopefully be seeing less of that numpty Ian Wright.

I don't think Manhattan's idea is feasible, you pay a licence fee on the basis that the remit of their programming covers a wide range of things. That is to say, unfortunately there are people out there who like seeing Graham Norton prancing about on a Saturday evening, likewise with Jonathan Woss on a Friday.

For me it's a case of getting the correct balance between numpty programmes and non-numpty programmes such as Planet Earth.

If it was down to me I'd eradicate the numpty programmes, but in reality it will never happen. They have to change with culture and society, that is why we are seeing more numpties about than we have seen in the past.

by **GOAT** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:15 am

The Manhattan Project wrote:I think the BBC should be maintained by licence fee under one condition, that it cuts its "entertainment" division, which would eliminate the need to pay like Jonathan Woss and Graham Norton such high salaries for doing.....well.....pretty much fook all.

The BBC should focus on only a few areas: 1- Education (documentaries and so forth like "The Blue Planet") 2- Sport (a few reserved events like Wimbledon, the Olympics, the Grand National, EURO's, World Cup, FA Cup Final etc...) 3- News and Current Events. This would be the content of their TV and radio output.

They would be allowed to venture into Entertainment, but this must only occur on a BBC channel that has commercials and would be entirely funded by commercial sponsorship. No public money would fund this part of the corporation.

......Bloody hell, i hope i never get old

by **112-1077774096** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:19 am

Kharhaz wrote:Then shouldnt that be the way to move ? abandon the whole tv licence fee altogether? that way the bbc can live of income from the ads there making, I just think the whole thing is unfair, i read my local paper and saw an absurd amount of people penalised for not paying there licence fee then i laughed, not at them but me because im one of the mugs paying for the rubbish were seeing now !

the bbc dont make adverts, as far as i can remember thats the reason there is a licence fee, are you suggesting the bbc should start advertising and do away with the licence fee?

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:26 am

Yes Peewee, then that way whatever rubbish were getting at least were not being penalised financially or visually for what we are seeing with ITV whatever they show its up to them, its the ads paying and not us. The rubbish im seeing on bbc yes i'll happily save my money by them adoptings ads.

by **LFC2007** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:27 am

I think Kharhaz is saying IF the BBC started advertising then that would be a way of obtaining funding, i.e. abolish the licence fee.

I'm not so sure this would be successful, as much as the BBC do have some horrendous programmes, I think the likes of ITV and channel 4 exceed their numptieness by quite a bit. If they scrapped the licence fee they'd have to go down the commercial programming route, i.e. programmes that are ratings driven, unfortunately I see that encouraging more Jonathon Woss/Graham Norton/Big brother/Chris tarrant type programmes. Not only that but I hate adverts, absolutely hate them more than Jonathon Woss, so I take sanctuary knowing all I have to do is turn over to BBC 1 to find an advert free programme.

by **112-1077774096** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:28 am

ok, but then you are not allowed to complain when there are adverts every 10 minutes

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:32 am

My complaint is with the fee were paying and watching the tripe that is shown, yeah sure, if bbc adopted advert fees rather than ours its a simple case of switching over or off altogether but it it isnt, we are paying for this tripe, id rather not pay and let the bbc go with ads, how many times have we watched a good film on bbc 1 only to be interrupted by the news? with the film continuing afterwards? yeah id rather have ads pay for it !

by **112-1077774096** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:35 am

i know what you are talking about with tripe mate, but what is tripe for you might be tv gold for someone else who is paying the licence fee, they have to strike a balance and sadly not all tv will please everyone all of the time.

sadly there are taxes in life, if the licence fee is abolished and advertising comes in there is no guarentee that the standard of programmes will increase. it will mean however that you wont feel like you are paying directly for this service (you do pay indirectly on every product you buy, they all have a percentage that goes to a companies advertising department)

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:40 am

Too true im afraid peewee but from what ive gathered from various topics on this forum many people dislike the rubbish that is shown, big brother and a majority of reality programs. it not just me who is tired of it, however like i stated, why cant we choose? we are paying for it after all, surely the majority rather than the few can choose what we want to watch.

by **LFC2007** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:48 am

My point would be this: How can we all come to a consensus about what we want to watch on the BBC?

I'm presuming you mean that if the licence fee was scrapped, thereby giving people the choice to watch what they want. Would a ratings driven BBC be any better than the existing one? They would "choose" programmes that haul in the most number of viewers, unfortunately most of these are likely to be in the same mould as inane programmes like Big Bother.

We would not be choosing then would we?

It would still be the few fat cats at the top taking the decisions for commercial reasons.

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:54 am

Are we choosing now?

by **112-1077774096** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:58 am

well you can choose what to watch and what not to watch mate, you can switch off, but i know thats not what you are talking about.

this is one of the reasons cable and satelite is popular, you have comedy channels, documentary channels, news channels etc so you can choose (although these programmes are repeated and you do pay for the service).

sadly mate not much in life is free anymore

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