Gerrard playing as a "second striker" (attacking mid for me)
s@int wrote:Gerrard playing as a "second striker" (attacking mid for me)
Theres no way Gerrard was playing attacking midfield against Milan. He wasn't dropping back, but was used to put pressure on the Milan defence etc when Liverpool lost the ball. He was playing off our striker when we had the ball not running from deeper.
LFC2007 wrote:Sabre,
Forming an opinion on where the UCL final was won and lost is acceptable, and we can all pontificate as to what would have won the game and where we went wrong. I don't have much of a problem with that, but this guy is taking it to the next level of naivity, and his reasoning is poor and not explained.
That, I don't have too much problem with.
This, I do have a problem with:
"Rafa isnt the tactical genius everyone thinks he is. He lost us the champions league final"
I seem to remember in 2005 when Rafa orchestrated the greatest Champions league victory of all time. With an incredibly depleted squad and no Owen because we were shafted. Sure, there's no tactical genius in that is there?
And yet this guy uses the symbol of that victory as his avatar, pot/kettle/black.
Not only that, but he accuses Rafa of being too "stubborn" in his efforts to sign Owen, if you can't match £16m and Owen chooses to go to Newcastle - what do you do?
Owen could have stuck it out at Madrid, as it happens, he thought his world cup chances would be hindered if he didn't move - which is absolute nonsense because Sven ended up picking Walcott for the squad!!!!!!
And this guy blames Rafa!
Sabre, I don't think Richard deserves special stick, he deserves extra special stick.
RichardLFC1 wrote:But 1 person has said rafa didnt lose us the final the players did. And now you mate are saying that he won us the cup in 2005. If he takes responsibility for one then he must for the other.
LFC2007 wrote:RichardLFC1 wrote:But 1 person has said rafa didnt lose us the final the players did. And now you mate are saying that he won us the cup in 2005. If he takes responsibility for one then he must for the other.
Please quote me on EXACTLY where I said Rafa won us the cup in 2005?
Please tell me?
I said:
"I seem to remember in 2005 when Rafa orchestrated the greatest Champions league victory of all time"
That is to say, his tactical nouse helped "orchestrate" the greatest win of all time.
If anything it s YOU who has just backtracked by going from " Rafa lost us the final" and he is "not the man for the job" to "he can be great".
You don't have a clue IMO, you are beyond reasoning.
RichardLFC1 wrote:LFC2007 wrote:RichardLFC1 wrote:But 1 person has said rafa didnt lose us the final the players did. And now you mate are saying that he won us the cup in 2005. If he takes responsibility for one then he must for the other.
Please quote me on EXACTLY where I said Rafa won us the cup in 2005?
Please tell me?
I said:
"I seem to remember in 2005 when Rafa orchestrated the greatest Champions league victory of all time"
That is to say, his tactical nouse helped "orchestrate" the greatest win of all time.
If anything it s YOU who has just backtracked by going from " Rafa lost us the final" and he is "not the man for the job" to "he can be great".
You don't have a clue IMO, you are beyond reasoning.
This is a Liverpool fc Forum where people should feel free to voice there opinions. You dont like what ive said then ok pull me up on it. But to say i dont have a clue and im beyhond reasoning is just being a plain .
redtrader74 wrote:Come on Richard, the team controlled Milan, they were pretty much out of ideas. They scored a deflected goal after a dodgy FK. This was the same Milan we were all told was gonna kick our ars3. You said 'there was nothing wrong with the team on the day' so what was wrong? If the team selected was ok by you, then who were you going to play 2nd striker?
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