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egyptian liverpoolian wrote:kaka22
i hope to meet after the match to dry your tears

The day after Ill be here....winner ol loser...

Emerald Red wrote:

MasterBlaster wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

KAKA22 wrote:

zarababe wrote:Justice - Where is the justice in this

Why Milan should not be in the CL - The Guradian:

Last summer, Milan were implicated in the Calciopoli scandal, which began when phone-taps revealed the general manager of Juventus, Luciano Moggi, had been attempting to control the selection of officials for Serie A matches. Moggi's club suffered the harshest punishment, being stripped of their league title and relegated to Serie B, but Milan - along with Lazio and Fiorentina - were also found guilty of lesser charges.

In Milan's case, their refeering liaison officer, a restaurateur from Lodi called Leonardo Meani, was said to have made incriminating phone calls, one of which was to Gennaro Mazzei, the Italian Football Association's [FIGC] head of linesmen, after Milan had lost 2-1 to Siena. Meani criticised the appointment of one linesman in forthright terms: "I don't want him. I never asked for him nor wanted him." And he added a request for their next match: "On Wednesday, try to send two intelligent ones."

Although the charges were on a much smaller scale than those levelled against Moggi and Juventus, they were nevertheless enough to incur a retrospective deduction of 44 points from the total with which Milan had earned second place in Serie A in the 2005-06 season, plus an advance deduction of 15 points from the present season. On appeal, however, these were lowered to 30 points and eight respectively, the former being just enough to put them in third position, ensuring them a place in last August's qualifying round of the Champions League, while the latter made inclusion in next year's tournament a realistic ambition.

For Juventus, being erased from the final table of the 2005-06 season meant they would automatically be excluded from the Champions League and many felt the same punishment should be inflicted on the other clubs involved in the scandal. At the headquarters of Uefa, however, it was discovered that the governing body's rules did not allow it to override the decisions of a national association. If the FIGC deemed Milan fit to represent them, there was nothing that could be done.

"It was very simple," William Gaillard, Uefa's head of communications, told me. "Our executive committee could only take up the matter after the Italian sentences were confirmed, because there were many appeals. The Italian association sent us their list of clubs, which included Milan. Some of the committee had misgivings about the situation, but when we examined our statutes and regulations we saw that we could not do anything about it because, in matters such as this, the national association was sovereign.

"The only possibility was to change our statutes, and that was done at our congress in Düsseldorf in January. Now we have the power to intervene. If a team has been game-fixing or affecting results, and if the case is sufficiently grave, Uefa will be able to exclude them."

Welcome as the change may be, it came several months too late to exclude Milan from this year's competition, which they are now the bookmakers' favourites to win for a seventh time on Wednesday. And there are those, such as Crerand, who will find it difficult to take comfort from the knowledge that, at least on paper, things will be different in the future.

"They're a smashing team, Milan, and maybe they didn't know what was going on," Crerand concluded. "Or would some of them have known? You'd have to ask them. Obviously the players want to win the top trophy, but if you do it unfairly, is it worth it?"

How the punished clubs have fared:

Milan Docked eight points, they lie fourth in Serie A and have reached the Champions League final

Fiorentina Started with minus 15 points but now stand fifth

Lazio With only three points to make up, they are third in Serie A

Reggina Began 11 points down and hover above the relegation zone

Siena Only one point deducted but they are in danger of the drop

Juventus Relegated with nine-point deficit, but have won promotion
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Typical of  UEFA always F***ingwell acting after the event !

the truth is that u r just scared like hell to meet us again in the Final... If not u wouldn t be interested at all about this...

Wise up, you f@ggot! We fear no one! At the end of the day, your club are a bunch of cheating w@ankers that disgrace the sport. Shame, as I thought AC had better respect.

You seem to have a short memory.

Bruce Grobelaar of the Liverpool club, was on the take to MATCH FIX, receiving cash payments to throw matches. How many other Liverpool players were on the take remains the question?

Milan players, just play on the park.

So when it comes to cheating, Liverpool have a greater history at it, with solid evidence, not hearsay as was the case with Milan. So please spare the dramatics.

Good luck in the final, (as that is your only weapon, other than defensive, negative football, which is Benitez signature).
Let's face Liverpool are ugly to watch, and that my friend is a disgrace to football.


Arsenal used to be the same under George Graham. They play an exciting football style now. How about Liverpool, change also and join the revolution of modern football and play an exciting brand of football. The only way to go. Win or lose, (more wins), will endear your club a lot more.

Benitez, is the spanish version of Trapattoni. Antiquated.
Beh, to each their own. Enjoy the Final...... (I'm not to here to stir anyone, just football talk).

Now, listen here, Dick gobbler! Even if Grobelaar was taking bribes, it was against US to lose games, you Fu*king moron. Even if it was true, then it wasn't for our chances of winning anything. AC CHEATED so that they could win. Simple as. FACT! You were caught with your hands in the cookie jar, so to speak, and at much higher levels than individual players. It was the fuc'king board of AC. Much more serious. That's corruption. Look it up in the dictionary, you fckin eejit.

And then you go on about Liverpool playing negative football? Oh, so Italian football down the years hasn't been? you're saying that Italian football doesn't place more emphasis on defending rather than attacking? Is this not a fact, son? I think it is. It's well known.

Isn't it not another fact that Liverpool were the most exciting team that year they won the CL? I think so. We batterd you Italian opossitions in single halfs. They couldn't handle our attack (stress the word ATTACK, fu'ckwit!) at Anfield, as many other teams couldn't either. Hmm, and 3-0 down in the final, only to claw it back again. You don't do things like that being a negative team. Pick your words right next time, ballbag!

You tell em Emerald lad 

stmichael wrote:Anyway I'm off guys. I'll see some of you over there, and the rest of you when I get back. Until Friday morning I'll leave you in the very capable hands of J'mac (who am I kidding?) , Sabre and Bigmick.

I just hope when I get back, that this place will be a happy place to return to after the players have done the business.

Enjoy the game all of you.

YNWA!

Have a good un mate.


Soak it up like a sponge 

YNWA

GRAHAM01 wrote:yes us poor unfortunates that must stay at home and watch it on a tiny screen with nothing but beer to help with are nerves

I would be scared to have a beer, after the first couple once i go i cant stop, and i would be worried i might miss something.