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Postby monkey 20 » Tue May 15, 2007 1:33 pm

i will probably never emulate jose mourinho; but in my honest opinion i will never show someone respect who does not deserve it. what mourinho has done in his managerial career is nothing short of outstanding! especially what he did in portugal with benfica and porto! what he's done at chelsea is good too...but would u not expect any decent manager in the world to do what he has done there? -minimum! im not taking away from any of the success chelsea have achieved since he took over...but to spend the vast amounts of money chelsea have (and yes its way more than any other team in the world) would you not expect chelsea to maybe make at least one champions league final? win the league at least twice, if not every season, out of 3 seasons (which in fact they have done). win at least 2 FA cups with the squad they have? but with the exception of the league, they have not done that!! at all! liverpool's performance in the league has not been as good as chelsea's, or manchester's...but that is perfectly understandable! why u may say...thats simply done to the fact that our squad strength for the first XI is not as good! but yet we finished above a team who's regarded as one of the best football playing teams in the world, in arsenal. when benitez took over the helm at anfield, the pundits and media talked about "the top 3" in england...now they talk about "the top 4" (yip, got that from u sabre) - although i have no regard for anything that the media say at all, it does show how progression is happening. we may now have some money to get the players that were out of our reach before...but maybe not, lets see how the football unfolds.

for me to say that "all" chelsea supporters are blind retards is obviously wrong, but - he's turned a lot of chelsea supporters into blind retards. yes, completely and obviously over generalisation. of course, as with as with any football club's supporters there are going to be those that know what they see and are realists. so i apologise for that. but i stick to the fact that many chelsea supporters have been drawn into what mourinho says all the time! which honestly, any 'wise' human being in this entire world would call, a lot of the time, utter :censored:!
now lets look at this carefully...firstly mourinho calls arsene wenger "a voyeur" - now is that not complete disrespect to a man who single handedly changed a good club into a great club!?
he then completely disregards alex ferguson, but i do not even pretend to remember what he said, but he did, and even if sir alex ferguson is a stupid red nosed scot who chews too much gum, it is not at all clever to down grade his 'fantastic' achievements!!
mourinho claims he's the special one, but in fact if any great manager managed chelsea they'd be seen as being even more special by the supporters and footballing community without even having to say it or self proclaim it! :D
now chelsea CRAVE european success more than anything else! and going back to the 2005 semi final of the champions league, where chelsea met a passionate, but not as skilled liverpool side...luis garcia scored the only goal of the two legs at anfield...now after the game mourinho bitched and made excuses why chelsea didn't win and he said that is wasn't a goal and it didn't cross the line! ok, now im going to tell you why mr mourinho can be such a chop in my mind...he made the excuse that the ball didn't cross the line, but after the game the ref publicly came out and said that if the goal had not been given he would have given a penalty to liverpool for the foul by petr chech on milan baros...he then went on to say that he would have then sent petr cech off!! now wouldn't you think that it would have been even more of a disadvantage to have the world best goalkeeper sent off after only just 5 mins of the game and to have a penalty against you?? i could maybe forgive jose for being caught up in the heat of things and because he was hurt because chelsea lost...to liverpool....and after his competitiveness and desire to be better than benitez.
however i will ner forgive mourinho now; in the build up to this 2007 champions league semi final against liverpool he kept on bringing up "the goal that shouldn't have been" supposedly! completely ignoring the fact the he would have played with ten men from then on and still probably been a goal down after that penalty. if you watched the game you'd see that is was eidur gudjonsons's fault that chelsea didn't win after his glaring miss in the 90th minute. and frank lampard's shocking miss at stamford bridge just 5 yards out! he blames other things, where in fact he should be blaming his own team for their obvious failures!
now getting back to the fact why i disrespected jose mourinho - and justifiably if i may say so my self...after this years semi final jose said that the side in blue were the better team that night...now did you believe that chelsea were better than liverpool at anfield? honestly?
i think jose mourinho was the only person, other than those chelsea supporters he's been able to convince, that thought the "team in blue" were the better side.
but that still is not the complete reason i truely disrespect jose mourinho...rafael benitez said that he used to have a drink with jose after games and that they used to be friends...well up until liverpool started beating chelsea! i believe that shows an obvious lack of character...humility is a thing to aspire to...not disregard completely!!! im not gonna sit here and say that benitez is the be all and end all, but at least he doesn't claim to be when he's so obviously not! which is EXACTLY what mourinho has done!! and i find that disgusting...and i will show him no respect, because he does not deserve it as a person! yes, as a football manager, he has done great things...and i will always respect his managerial abilities...but that does not mean i have to show him respect as a person. and to say that shows my failing would not be not true....
yes, i DO NOT have the tactical knowledge of mourinho...but hopefully one day i will, but i would never dare be so arrogant and disrespectful to people as he is...if he had done what he's done at chelsea with a team like man city or bolton, then he may have the 'right' to say that he's the 'special one', but he's done it with a team who can outbid any other team for any player...so jose must pipe down a bit!
now i did speak in 'blind anger and disrespect' but that is only because i was prevoked but what he said....and is anybody here gonna honestly tell me he knew what he was talking about after the game with liverpool??? no.
i may not be the next bob paisley or bill shankly, but i do know i thing or two about football...and a lot of the time what mourinho says deserves the disrestect i will always give him until he becomes a better man! Which I don’t think will ever happen.
mourinho must show some decency to get respect back... nuff said.
and im sure many chelsea fans know that (even if they wont say it) , but many believe every single word of, sometimes, utter rubbish that comes out of his mouth!
my opinion of him was even lessened when he said that cristiano ronaldo had a poor up-bringing and no education whatsoever....what a load of :censored:!!!!
at least he had to decency to apologise afterwards...but the damage is done, he showed what an idiot he can be! now anyone who has the proof to prove me wrong, i'll be most welcome to hear your response....  but i said it before, and i'll say it again...  "jose mourinho is a stupid c*nt!"
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YNWA.......no liverpool fan will ever forget that, we speak with our hearts and our hearts speak honesty and truth!!!
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Postby monkey 20 » Tue May 15, 2007 1:35 pm

now i've had that rant i feel a lot better :D
sorry for any of you who've heard enough bout this...i just really needed to get that off my chest...
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Postby EddieC » Tue May 15, 2007 1:51 pm

Reading your post, all the facts in there seem to be correct, but I still can't understand what the point of it's meant to be?
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Postby monkey 20 » Tue May 15, 2007 2:00 pm

sh1t, there was meant to be a question at the end....
does anyone think that that jose should not be there come next season? and do what would be the facts that make benitez a better manager??

i just had a whole load of chelsea fans bugging me this morning...
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Postby radun5 » Tue May 15, 2007 2:00 pm

I agree with almost everything you said, except for the part that a team with so much money should be in CL final and anything else should be regarded as a failure. It is so tough to play in CL now, that I think Mouninho has done a good job in the three years in charge. Two semifinals and an earlier exit against Barcelona, all three against the team who eventually won it ( :buttrock ) are pretty good results. Again, the FA Cup is not an easy competition to win, it is the bloody most old competition in the world.

You should rather have pointed out that although they spent billions they still do not play attracting football, and that Mouninho while trying to get the pressure off his players has become the most hated person in EPL. Well, maybe you pointed out the latter.  :D
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Postby monkey 20 » Tue May 15, 2007 2:07 pm

i guess you are right bout the fact that each time they were beat in the CL it was by a team who won it...but if ur gonna spend that much money...surely you'd want more? but i think he's done ok, but not brilliantly, thats why he cant call himself special!!
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Postby stmichael » Tue May 15, 2007 3:17 pm

all i'll say is he has my full respect as a musician.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkbBZTpUXow

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Postby puroresu » Tue May 15, 2007 3:24 pm

I like Jose.  His record is amazing.  To be unbeaten in 5 years at home is a great achievement.  I dont buy all this "With that much money he should be winning more".  2 back to back titles, 2 league cups and possibly an FA cup in reasons is a good record.  You can question whether that amount of money should buy a CL final but you can also ask how many Managers could take Porto to the UEFA Cup and European Cup in successive seasons?
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Postby JeffJustice » Tue May 15, 2007 3:35 pm

He has brought it on himself. I hope he isn't there next season just because I can't stand his face.
The media love him because of his arrogant, up his own :censored: personality which is usually contraversial so he is ALWAYS on SSN or the back pages of papers. C'mon Roman, sack him!
Good manager but a total :censored:.
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Postby Agger_The_Dagger » Tue May 15, 2007 11:45 pm

In answer to  the question of whether Mourinho should still be the Chelsea manager at the end of the season.

If they do not manage to win the F.A Cup this season he should be replaced.

Forget what he has done over the last few seasons......if every manager could point to their success in past campaigns as a way to avoid being sacked....clubs would never have a change of direction of fresh approach.

Winning the League Cup HAS to be regarded as NOT GOOD ENOUGH for a team that splashed out £30,000,000 on one player alone and several other expensive investments last summer.

If I was a Chelsea supporter I would be demanding more than that. Player for player their squad has much more depth than the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd.

The Premiership really needs to be in the bag every season without fail for them based on the financial outlay that they have invested in players during the course of the last three seasons.

Even the most level-headed Chelsea fan that I know thinks Mourinho is 'brilliant' and 'the best manager in the world' but I have never known someone to talk so much rubbish in my life.

"After analysing myself this season...I have come to the conclusion that I am not a bad loser".....or words to that effect he spouted off last week.  Is this man sniffing some kind of illegal substance or something???

Touching on his tactical knowledge....I actually think this is one of the weaker areas of his ability.

He struggles to bring any balance to his team when playing a Natural 4-4-2 so instead plays without wide men almost every week (virtually 4 central midfielders in a compact line accross the middle). This is tactically naive and caused them big problems at Anfield as Zenden was getting loads of space out on the left and running at Ferreira for fun!

The bottom line on the tactical front is that they use Drogba as more of a target man than we used Crouch.

You will often see Crouch drop off and pick the ball up deep (half way line) on many occasions to assist in the build-up play.

Drogba is an off-the-shoulder striker who is tight against the centre half and looking to create knock-downs for the midfield (normally Lampard) to have a shot from outside the box.

They are extremely one-dimensional and if you know learn to play against them and
set your stall out to stifle their tactics they can be beaten (see Rafa as an example).

Next season will be a big test for Chelsea regardless of who is in the managerial seat as a lot of money will change hands this summer and teams will be strengthening.

Aston Villa will look to invest heavily as will Newcastle United once they appoint a decent manager and this will make things a little more interesting.

Expect to see the 'big 4' battling it out again though at the top of the table although I can honestly see Chelsea dropping a lot more points next season unless Mourinho creates himself at least a plan B.

They have lost the league this season because of his own mistakes in the transfer market in January by neglecting to add to his defensive ranks.

If he does end up a loser this weekend......he will have effectively talked his way out of a job in my opinion.

Things are learnt by listening.....not by talking......sadly Mourinho only seems to be able to do the latter of the two.

Maybe when he reffered to himself as being 'The Special One'.....he was indicating that he was in requirement of 'Special Needs Care'.....yes Mr Mourinho....you are indeed a complete retard!
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Postby Kharhaz » Tue May 15, 2007 11:58 pm

Jose Mourinho has single handedly turned Chelsea into the most hated team in England. Think back to when Claudio Ranieri was in charge, and sure enough he had all that money and spent most of it to build the team that Jose has now and yet nobody hated them, envious yes, but Claudio had the personality that everybody liked. In a way Claudio has won 2 titles, Jose has signed his own players and made them worse and very disliked.
Bill Shankly: “I was the best manager in Britain because I was never devious or cheated anyone. I’d break my wife’s legs if I played against her, but I’d never cheat her.”
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Postby Anfield rapper » Wed May 16, 2007 11:13 am

Why then do you show Mourinho respect by starting a thread about him on the Liverpool FC General discussion. This surley could have gone in the Premiership discussion. ???
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