by *Juventino* » Wed May 16, 2007 7:50 am
The Manhattan Project wrote:[b]Croucha and Kuyta will be Red Squadron Cobra and will fly into AC Milan's interior power core using single person starfighters.[b]
by Sabre » Wed May 16, 2007 8:43 am
by KAKA22 » Wed May 16, 2007 8:52 am
zarababe wrote:The bit about them being 'conceited' is clear - and this has been my 'beef' with that 'Kaka22' poster on this site - for me 'Meelan' are totally arrogant, disrespectful of Liverpool even though they should know better then to start that rubbish talk of theirsYou earn respect by your conduct not just through your pedigree, something Chelsea's Abrahmovic is learning, after the disgaceful behaviour of his 'manager'
On neutral ground - with Rafa's tactical knowledge etc we will be prepared - Mancs lost cos they were overwhelmed and tactically naive, we won't be.
This will be an interesting game - at the back of the Milan players minds will be 2005, psychologically that will be there - for us once again there is nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I can't wait just over a week to go - get in there red men
No Mercy
by Sabre » Wed May 16, 2007 9:03 am
siediti sulla riva del fiume,e aspetta che passi il cadavere del tuo nemico..."
wich means:
"...just sit on the edge of the River....,and wait for the dead body of your enemy passing in front of u..."
by AussieKopite » Wed May 16, 2007 9:41 am
LFC2007 wrote:The following post was passed onto me by a Juventus supporter on this forum called "Juventino". I have editted it as he used a translation website to convert it from Italian to English, parts of it are still hard to understand! But it's a lot better than it was before.
As he is unable to post a new thread I have done it on his behalf.
ALL THE SECRETS OF MILAN
Hi again to all friends and fans of Liverpool!
Being Italian I know very well the essence of my Country's game and therefore your next adversary in the Ending of Champions League in Athens… AC Milan.
Two years ago you realized a Miracle in having recovered from 0-3 down to even the score to 3-3 and then going on and winning the game with every ounce of strength you had.
Since that match I began to have an enormous liking for you and for your team considering that you had defeated Milan, they are the most unpleasant team in the World and also the most conceited. I admire a lot also in the way in which your fans have an unbelievable connection to Liverpool.
Because of this I have decided to pass on my knowledge of Milan and the secrets of the Milan side to you so you can be as best prepared for the match on the 23rd in Athens.
The crucial question is: “How to beat Milan again?”
I must immediately say to you; this time around the task of beating Milan will be more difficult, they know your team well and still hold some of the feelings from Istanbul. 99% of the time you will never recover from 3-0 down, this time to be at such a deficit is almost irreversible. This time to fall behind by only 1-0 will be like a sentence to defeat because your opponent will be extremely organised and they will be as determined as ever not to concede and lose a second time to Liverpool.
But here I explain in detail everything:
Preparation for the Final
Milan has a structure of training and physical recovery called the "Milan Lab." It studies the physical condition of players in high detail. Carlos Ancelotti is able to know, thanks to the help of this technology, if it is better to play one player or another player. The "Milan Lab" are able to foresee in detail which players are at risk of injury; and it is also able to create a specific programme for a player who needs to recover by a preset date. Milan are currently doing tests that will simulate the required speed and tempo at which they require to be in their best form, they are training at 90% of their maximum speed to do this.
Physical condition
Currently, Milan are in the best physical condition in the world. All it takes is to look at the way in which they beat Manchester United, this is a sample of the way they can play and a sample of their excellent conditioning. Milan usually do it this way, their main objective is to plan to arrive in the final part of the season in the best condition ready for the latter stages of the Champions League. If you have watched Milan over the years you will have noticed that they are totally different from today in the later stages of the season; they were less motivated, didn't race as fast and press as well as they can. Then in this last month of January before the restart of Serie A, they undertook specific preparation to reach the month of May in the absolutely best condition possible. Practically all race as hares and they always arrive first on the ball.
European mentality
From the moment Silvio Berlusconi becam the Milan President, Milan has always had as their first objective to win the Champions League or at least to arrive in Final. They have tried and had 4 victories in the last 20 years. Returning to the discourse of before, it is really for this that in the final moments of the season they always arrive in splendid form. Despite this being one of Milan's worst seasons, they have arrived in the final again.
Fortune
It is well-known in Italy, above all among the fans of the teams, that Milan in the Champions League has an impudent fortune. It is so that the arrival of Silvio Berlusconi; not by chance it is often said that all the students of Arrigo Sacchi (historical trainer of Milan between the years '80 and '90) has from his/her own part the famous one “culo of Sacks.” To make sense of this better: the teams that face Milan in the Champions League always have some bad fortune or players disqualified. This year Celtic could not line up their new purchase Pressley and other important players, in the return leg Bayern were without big players such as Schweinsteiger and Lahm, Manchester United also had a turn in fortune with a number of key injuries also. There would be also other cases to list over the past seasons, but the list would be too long. Milan on the contrary almost never have bad fortune with first team players for a game of Champions League, if not it is older players such as Maldini that obviously are again at some advanced age. You must be careful with some of your players so as they are not injured for the 23rd. Besides the Milan succeeds often in also passing the turns thanks to the fact that the adversaries often take poles and crossroads while to the rossoneris 1 only draught is enough for door…(Don't ask me!)
Conceitedness/Complacency
The fans of Milan are sure they will win. Today I heard one say after the goal from Seedorf in Catania vs. Milan: “With this physical condition we will destroy Liverpool. Gerrard here is thing will touch you!”; or on the Juventus forum where I participate, one member has chosen the nickname '7 times champions'. Milan has always been this way. The same President Berlusconi always says that “ Milan will surely win.” Whenever there is an important game Milan always say things in the media like 'Milan will surely win'. You will often hear them say things like “they will command the game and not let the opponent see the ball.” Or “If Milan play the way they know how to the opponent have no hope"
Justice
As I think you will know, this summer here from us in Italy there has been the rechristened scandal “Calciopoli” that saw a lot of teams involved among which were my Juventus. It is in the opinion of everybody that Milan being involved in the Champions League is an injustice as they were part of this scandal. Milan had to go down to Seria B or simply be excluded from the European Cup. But this has not happened. The judges have given Milan a ridiculous punishment that we don't accept. It is also for this reason that we cannot see Milan lift the Champions league trophy to the sky.
What's been said in Italy?
At the same moment in which you eliminated Chelsea, in Italy they have not done anything else other than to sustain that Milan would have the opportunity to get revenge for Istanbul. The newspapers and the TVs are maintaining the hype of 2 years ago but with a slightly lower profile in comparison because they have never forgotten your history and the match two years ago,there is however enough complacency on the fact that in the end Milan will win. As practically all the English teams have, also Milan have their own private channel: "Milan Channel." They are always going on about th egreat event in Athens. They almost speak of your team and of your players as if they knew them to memory, surely furnishing a great help to Ancelotti. Also they are very confident he will succeed and take revenge for two years ago. They are well little here in Italy those that you/they think that you will succeed again to win against the Milan because the fact that owes again riaffrontarli in an Ending of Champions League seems as a sign of the favorable destiny to the rossoneris. Us fans of the Juventus, and also those of the Inter, are not very confident on you, not because we don't hold you a strong team, but really for the fact that will be hard to beat Milan twice. All of us would like gladly a gift on your behalf...
As to beating Milan:
It is highly probable that the Milan will line up him with the following formation:
Dida
Oddo Nesta Maldini Jankulovsky
(Kaladze)
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kakà Seedorf
Inzaghi
(Gilardino)
Everybody regards Kakà as the number 1 danger. This is true, but you know that there is another fundamental player that is in a moment of exceptional form: Clarence Seedorf. It is through this him that they always pass the most important actions. It would be opportune that Gerrard watched him. Pay attention also to Inzaghi who is very good player to play on the counter attack, they will look to thread the ball through to him. Gattuso is the untiring worker of the team, Pirlo is a strong playmaker while Ambrosini is a fantastic with his head. Not by chance its number is 23 that he has been that of its idol Michael Jordan. Nesta is lately playing as perhaps he has never done from when he began his milan career. The only doubt is over Paolo Maldini who has a problem with his leg. If it didn't have to make Kaladze they will play that is as many strong.
But how should Liverpoool Approach it?
The ideal side would be this:
Reina
Finnan Carragher Agger Riise
Gerrard Disguise Xabi Alonso Sissoko Zenden
Kuyt
Gerrard is in absolute my preferred player and if you make a turn on j1897.com you will realize you that it is also a belief of a lot of the other members. I have always sustained, I believe that he performs best in the centre but in this case it is better that he plays on the right. This because if it departed to the center it would suffer the doubling of imprinting of Pirlo and Gattuso that would prevent him all the costs to unsheathe his/her famous draught from out deadly area. Playing instead to the right could enjoy of greater liberty. Besides it is necessary that he keeps an eye on Seedorf. This last will have to be marked to man from they Disguise. And what to do for Kakà? Kakà is surely the better man of the Milan, probably the strongest player in the World. We return 2 years to the Ending in Istanbul: in the first half Kakà played a splendid game, he practically did what he wanted. Then however in the second half Benitez made a change that allowed Liverpool to win the Champions League: Hamaan entered and was assigned to mark Kaka. Result: Kakà didn't touch the ball anymore. The player that resembles Hamaan most in the Liverpool side and in physical structure now is Momo Sissoko. Whoever plays here will have to deal with Kaka from the very first kick. If Kaka is given space then there is nothing you can do. To absolutely avoid the attack Bellamy-Kuyt: both have marked little and against the exceptional defense of the Milan they would have well few hopes. The ideal is to start with Kuyt alone up top in ahead for then to insert Crouch to the place of Macherano in the case the things they had to put on badly. Xabi Alonso will have to manage the whole team and to dictate the times. I have noticed that you have recovered Kewell, however he has the defect to make mistakes/miss important games.
However you know that to beat Milan you will need more than the the tactical points I have written: you will need Heart. Nobody can beat Milan in Champions League without having an endless heart. You have the fortune to have him/it to us and to have an united team as nessun'altra. You will owe the to be humble more possible and not to release declarations as that recent of Gerrard on Gattuso, won't do otherwise anything else other than to load more still the Milan and to give them a motivation in more to beat you. Don't put you on the them same plain. Don't be conceited!
(I think what he's trying to say here is, we don't need to make arrogant statements like Gattuso has done, it will only give Milan more motivation, don't stoop to their level)
The Milan is sure whether to win on May 23… you have to prevent him from it and to succeed in capsizing once more the prognostications. Will you make her/it? Will you succeed in realizing a Miracle this time also?
All of us wish you can. On May 23, you won't believe it, it will be also my birthday. My dream is that you can make me a great gift.
Always remember you that the Miracles exist, and that in the kick there is never anything sure. Every game has its history.
Good luck boys!
I believe in you!
GO LIVERPOOL!!!
by kunilson » Wed May 16, 2007 9:47 am
by *Juventino* » Wed May 16, 2007 10:29 am
KAKA22 wrote:zarababe wrote:The bit about them being 'conceited' is clear - and this has been my 'beef' with that 'Kaka22' poster on this site - for me 'Meelan' are totally arrogant, disrespectful of Liverpool even though they should know better then to start that rubbish talk of theirs
On neutral ground - with Rafa's tactical knowledge etc we will be prepared - Mancs lost cos they were overwhelmed and tactically naive, we won't be.
This will be an interesting game - at the back of the Milan players minds will be 2005, psychologically that will be there - for us once again there is nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I can't wait just over a week to go - get in there red men
No Mercy
"that kaka22" is me.....I know u hate me but I dont care at all man...I just keep "in silent" since here by the final n I'll what will happen....u r sure to beat us again...u think we are arrogant..ok...But see u in athens man..the match has still to be played..
For juventino....we have NO Secrets.....we r just HISTORY....who want to show to show the world again who really deserve to be the best....ah.. 28 MAGGIO 2003....thats all for u..
ah,we have a sentence in Italy right for this situation...:
"siediti sulla riva del fiume,e aspetta che passi il cadavere del tuo nemico..."
wich means:
"...just sit on the edge of the River....,and wait for the dead body of your enemy passing in front of u..."
by zarababe » Wed May 16, 2007 12:34 pm
*Juventino* wrote:KAKA22 wrote:zarababe wrote:The bit about them being 'conceited' is clear - and this has been my 'beef' with that 'Kaka22' poster on this site - for me 'Meelan' are totally arrogant, disrespectful of Liverpool even though they should know better then to start that rubbish talk of theirs
On neutral ground - with Rafa's tactical knowledge etc we will be prepared - Mancs lost cos they were overwhelmed and tactically naive, we won't be.
This will be an interesting game - at the back of the Milan players minds will be 2005, psychologically that will be there - for us once again there is nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I can't wait just over a week to go - get in there red men
No Mercy
"that kaka22" is me.....I know u hate me but I dont care at all man...I just keep "in silent" since here by the final n I'll what will happen....u r sure to beat us again...u think we are arrogant..ok...But see u in athens man..the match has still to be played..
For juventino....we have NO Secrets.....we r just HISTORY....who want to show to show the world again who really deserve to be the best....ah.. 28 MAGGIO 2003....thats all for u..
ah,we have a sentence in Italy right for this situation...:
"siediti sulla riva del fiume,e aspetta che passi il cadavere del tuo nemico..."
wich means:
"...just sit on the edge of the River....,and wait for the dead body of your enemy passing in front of u..."
You are only arrogants. If justice existed you would not be even due to be in Champions League. That date I remember it to me... I perfectly remember when we eliminated to one to one the best teams in Europe and you have arrived in Final thanks to 1000 draw or gol to the last second. And I remember above all that to us in Final it missed Pavel Nedved that then it was the best player in Europe. It would be as if on May 23 against the Liverpool you missed Kakà.
P.S.:
"The history we are us... nobody feels him offended"
"La storia siamo noi... nessuno si senta offeso"
by *Juventino* » Wed May 16, 2007 12:48 pm
el_stinger wrote:Who the hell is Disguise?
by LFC2007 » Wed May 16, 2007 4:40 pm
KAKA22 wrote:zarababe wrote:The bit about them being 'conceited' is clear - and this has been my 'beef' with that 'Kaka22' poster on this site - for me 'Meelan' are totally arrogant, disrespectful of Liverpool even though they should know better then to start that rubbish talk of theirs
On neutral ground - with Rafa's tactical knowledge etc we will be prepared - Mancs lost cos they were overwhelmed and tactically naive, we won't be.
This will be an interesting game - at the back of the Milan players minds will be 2005, psychologically that will be there - for us once again there is nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I can't wait just over a week to go - get in there red men
No Mercy
"that kaka22" is me.....I know u hate me but I dont care at all man...I just keep "in silent" since here by the final n I'll what will happen....u r sure to beat us again...u think we are arrogant..ok...But see u in athens man..the match has still to be played..
For juventino....we have NO Secrets.....we r just HISTORY....who want to show to show the world again who really deserve to be the best....ah.. 28 MAGGIO 2003....thats all for u..
ah,we have a sentence in Italy right for this situation...:
"siediti sulla riva del fiume,e aspetta che passi il cadavere del tuo nemico..."
wich means:
"...just sit on the edge of the River....,and wait for the dead body of your enemy passing in front of u..."
by mighty mo » Wed May 16, 2007 5:12 pm
LFC2007 wrote:KAKA22 wrote:zarababe wrote:The bit about them being 'conceited' is clear - and this has been my 'beef' with that 'Kaka22' poster on this site - for me 'Meelan' are totally arrogant, disrespectful of Liverpool even though they should know better then to start that rubbish talk of theirs
On neutral ground - with Rafa's tactical knowledge etc we will be prepared - Mancs lost cos they were overwhelmed and tactically naive, we won't be.
This will be an interesting game - at the back of the Milan players minds will be 2005, psychologically that will be there - for us once again there is nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I can't wait just over a week to go - get in there red men
No Mercy
"that kaka22" is me.....I know u hate me but I dont care at all man...I just keep "in silent" since here by the final n I'll what will happen....u r sure to beat us again...u think we are arrogant..ok...But see u in athens man..the match has still to be played..
For juventino....we have NO Secrets.....we r just HISTORY....who want to show to show the world again who really deserve to be the best....ah.. 28 MAGGIO 2003....thats all for u..
ah,we have a sentence in Italy right for this situation...:
"siediti sulla riva del fiume,e aspetta che passi il cadavere del tuo nemico..."
wich means:
"...just sit on the edge of the River....,and wait for the dead body of your enemy passing in front of u..."
AC Milan was founded by a Brit. so technically we still own Milan.
by egyptian liverpoolian » Thu May 17, 2007 6:49 pm
KAKA22 wrote:zarababe wrote:The bit about them being 'conceited' is clear - and this has been my 'beef' with that 'Kaka22' poster on this site - for me 'Meelan' are totally arrogant, disrespectful of Liverpool even though they should know better then to start that rubbish talk of theirs
On neutral ground - with Rafa's tactical knowledge etc we will be prepared - Mancs lost cos they were overwhelmed and tactically naive, we won't be.
This will be an interesting game - at the back of the Milan players minds will be 2005, psychologically that will be there - for us once again there is nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I can't wait just over a week to go - get in there red men
No Mercy
"that kaka22" is me.....I know u hate me but I dont care at all man...I just keep "in silent" since here by the final n I'll what will happen....u r sure to beat us again...u think we are arrogant..ok...But see u in athens man..the match has still to be played..
For juventino....we have NO Secrets.....we r just HISTORY....who want to show to show the world again who really deserve to be the best....ah.. 28 MAGGIO 2003....thats all for u..
ah,we have a sentence in Italy right for this situation...:
"siediti sulla riva del fiume,e aspetta che passi il cadavere del tuo nemico..."
wich means:
"...just sit on the edge of the River....,and wait for the dead body of your enemy passing in front of u..."
by *Juventino* » Sat May 19, 2007 9:31 am
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