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hello_red wrote:bellamy is by far the better footballer. i dont even no why we are discussing this! yeah bellamy hasnt set the world alight but neither has gerrard. remember bellamy only cost 6 million, cisse 14 theres the difference for 8 million less we got a footballer who can play rather than just run.

jesus christ there are some fools around!

bigmick wrote:Not a close one for me either I'm afraid. One can play football and one can't. One has a modicul of football intelligence and one doesn't. Bellamy is a much, much better player in my opinion than Cisse. I also have a hunch that he is a much much better player than he has shown us this season as well, and if he goes elsewhere we may in time live to regret it.

puroresu wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

bigmick wrote:Not a close one for me either I'm afraid. One can play football and one can't. One has a modicul of football intelligence and one doesn't. Bellamy is a much, much better player in my opinion than Cisse. I also have a hunch that he is a much much better player than he has shown us this season as well, and if he goes elsewhere we may in time live to regret it.

I actually agree with that Mick, and what St mike was saying as well, i dont think rotation has helped Bellamy one bit, he hasnt had time to play himself into form, people might say he hasnt shown enough to justify his selection but he has had to adapt to a different system and way of playing, for previous clubs he would of been able to get in behind the back four alot more frequently but for Liverpool teams defend far deeper and with virtually every player behind the ball, as they fear us, imo its no coincidence that one of his better games was against Man united where they attacked us (or tried to anyway) leaving space for him to get in behind them.
If he played 4-5 games in a row in a settled team he would probably hit form, thats unlikely under Rafa and its looking extremley likely that he will be on his way. Thats more than a shame imo, the lad always gives 100% and he will be gutted that he hasnt succeeded here.

DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE SPRINTER CISSE.

How does the rotation matter effect Bellamy but not Cisse.  One could argue Cisse was rotated just as much as bellamy.  Your argument about teams getting behind the back 4  a problem as teams defending deeper also could apply to Cisse.

puroresu wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

bigmick wrote:Not a close one for me either I'm afraid. One can play football and one can't. One has a modicul of football intelligence and one doesn't. Bellamy is a much, much better player in my opinion than Cisse. I also have a hunch that he is a much much better player than he has shown us this season as well, and if he goes elsewhere we may in time live to regret it.

I actually agree with that Mick, and what St mike was saying as well, i dont think rotation has helped Bellamy one bit, he hasnt had time to play himself into form, people might say he hasnt shown enough to justify his selection but he has had to adapt to a different system and way of playing, for previous clubs he would of been able to get in behind the back four alot more frequently but for Liverpool teams defend far deeper and with virtually every player behind the ball, as they fear us, imo its no coincidence that one of his better games was against Man united where they attacked us (or tried to anyway) leaving space for him to get in behind them.
If he played 4-5 games in a row in a settled team he would probably hit form, thats unlikely under Rafa and its looking extremley likely that he will be on his way. Thats more than a shame imo, the lad always gives 100% and he will be gutted that he hasnt succeeded here.

DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE SPRINTER CISSE.

How does the rotation matter effect Bellamy but not Cisse.  One could argue Cisse was rotated just as much as bellamy.  Your argument about teams getting behind the back 4  a problem as teams defending deeper also could apply to Cisse.

Ace Ventura wrote:

puroresu wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

bigmick wrote:Not a close one for me either I'm afraid. One can play football and one can't. One has a modicul of football intelligence and one doesn't. Bellamy is a much, much better player in my opinion than Cisse. I also have a hunch that he is a much much better player than he has shown us this season as well, and if he goes elsewhere we may in time live to regret it.

I actually agree with that Mick, and what St mike was saying as well, i dont think rotation has helped Bellamy one bit, he hasnt had time to play himself into form, people might say he hasnt shown enough to justify his selection but he has had to adapt to a different system and way of playing, for previous clubs he would of been able to get in behind the back four alot more frequently but for Liverpool teams defend far deeper and with virtually every player behind the ball, as they fear us, imo its no coincidence that one of his better games was against Man united where they attacked us (or tried to anyway) leaving space for him to get in behind them.
If he played 4-5 games in a row in a settled team he would probably hit form, thats unlikely under Rafa and its looking extremley likely that he will be on his way. Thats more than a shame imo, the lad always gives 100% and he will be gutted that he hasnt succeeded here.

DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE SPRINTER CISSE.

How does the rotation matter effect Bellamy but not Cisse.  One could argue Cisse was rotated just as much as bellamy.  Your argument about teams getting behind the back 4  a problem as teams defending deeper also could apply to Cisse.

It would affect any striker, strikers need runs of games to find form, Owen could go without scoring for a few games but keep playing him and he then hits hot streaks scoring in bursts.

So i agree it would of affected Cisse also, but that doesnt change my opinion that Cisse is a poor player and very limited, Bellamy imo is a far better footballer.

dawson99 wrote:Yeah but Rafa doesnt play a game to suit him if you ask me. Keep kuyt to run around like madman non stop and get an absolute top drawer striker whose sole job it is to get us goals.

I would possibly like to keep bellamy but can see Rafa cashing in, maybe making a mill or two on him. Whilst he will probably keep crouch for that 'something different'

cisse will never come back if you ask me.

Paul C wrote:Been reading the Cisse post about him wanted to comeback to Anfield, it's made me thing about our present situation about strikers and to think about it I'm not too sure who I'd have from the two, before we'd signed Bellemy I would have chosen him purely on tallent but after seeing him play for us this season I honestly don't think he's offered anymore than Cisse did but what I do have to point out is although Cisse didn't prove himself at Anfield he scored a h3ll of a lot more goals than Bellemy has.

I've tried to decide who I'd prefer but one minute I think Cisse then Bellemy.

very true, i think though that cisse was never the same after the break he sustained against blackburn early on in the season.

I think liverpool should take him back for just one more year, and if he dosen't show the goods then let him go!

  Liverpool Till I Die!

dawson99 wrote:keep kuyt. get rid of bellamy and cisse.

Now there's a stricker that is pure hard work and pure class, Kuyt has been Brillant this season!

      Kuyt!

The Manhattan Project wrote:Offer Cisse, Le Tallec and eight million to Ajax in return for Huntelaar.